Salvia makes life easier, DXM makes life worse.

I don't know if this applies to everyone, but my luck has been as good as the other "changed my life" stories I've read when it comes to Salvia. After smoking 1.5g of 10x Salvia over the period of a month, with proper meditation and dark rooms, I no longer get the "out of weed" blues, I don't seem to suffer as much in school, and I function much better while I am a daily smoker.

Salvia taught me many things about my life, she taught me how to better deal with tough situations, she punished me for what I have done wrong, and she scared me with how bad life could really be. I think its safe to say I'll probably never have the desire to smoke it again.

DXM, on the other hand, was probably one of the worst choices I have ever made when it comes to trying a new drug. The day after it, I was severely depressed about being alive. Life just sucked, plain and simple, so more DXM was the cure. Life began to suck even more, so doing DXM while at school, at work, with family, became my norm. My mother has clinical depression, which made it easy for me to ignore DXM as a cause for my own blues.

Then the worst happened. In the middle of the hallway at school, without any DXM or weed to calm my nerves, I started freaking out in every way I knew possible. First I thought that water would kill me. Then I became incredibly sensitive to touch. If someone touched me, I felt like I wanted to run a mile away from them. Finally, I just started screaming "GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME!!!" at everyone around me. Next my torso buckled up in the air, while my feet and head went backwards, I started shaking, and I let out a blissful orgasmic smile as my girlfriend, my teachers, my friends, watched in horror as I shook in mid-air. If anyone knows how DXM withdrawal can do this to you, or the physiology involved, please explain it to me!

Plants are good for you. Things that humans make, tend not to be.

Yes, salvia makes life easier.

Here's where i get mine: http://www.salviapimp.com

I took DXM weekly for 2 years or so and went through serious withdrawal when I abruptly stopped. The withdrawal was very similar to bad SSRI withdrawal: couldn't sleep, I felt hot all the time (or maybe cold all the time, it's been a while), I had an impending sense of massive dread, I thought I was going insane..

I think the inability to sleep is what caused most of my problems.. After a couple of days I would close my eyes and see DXM-type visuals while awake, and heads squishing and morphing around and eating each other is scarier when you have emotions (not that I usually saw heads squishing on DXM normally.. I think it was the lack of sleep).

After about a week I went to a doctor and got some Paxil (an SSRI), which helped quite a bit. As the withdrawal lessened, the closed-eye visuals became less and less realistic in the same manner as my DXM trips (actual objects, growing vaguer and vaguer, then just blobs, then just colorful 'shell' things).

Eventually I got off Paxil too.. I was able to quit that cold-turkey without any problem (some very minor withdrawal, but no problem sleeping or general craziness) - I was only on 20mg a day, though, which maybe is low..

Ultimately DXM is pointless for me, at high doses I can't remember anything and at low doses I just float through featureless corridors or endlessly reach closed doors. It was fun while it lasted, though, and the few out-of-body experiences I had were neat.

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Originally Posted by GoldenNugget

I took DXM weekly for 2 years or so and went through serious withdrawal when I abruptly stopped. The withdrawal was very similar to bad SSRI withdrawal: couldn't sleep, I felt hot all the time (or maybe cold all the time, it's been a while), I had an impending sense of massive dread, I thought I was going insane..

I think the inability to sleep is what caused most of my problems.. After a couple of days I would close my eyes and see DXM-type visuals while awake, and heads squishing and morphing around and eating each other is scarier when you have emotions (not that I usually saw heads squishing on DXM normally.. I think it was the lack of sleep).

After about a week I went to a doctor and got some Paxil (an SSRI), which helped quite a bit. As the withdrawal lessened, the closed-eye visuals became less and less realistic in the same manner as my DXM trips (actual objects, growing vaguer and vaguer, then just blobs, then just colorful 'shell' things).

Eventually I got off Paxil too.. I was able to quit that cold-turkey without any problem (some very minor withdrawal, but no problem sleeping or general craziness) - I was only on 20mg a day, though, which maybe is low..

Ultimately DXM is pointless for me, at high doses I can't remember anything and at low doses I just float through featureless corridors or endlessly reach closed doors. It was fun while it lasted, though, and the few out-of-body experiences I had were neat.

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I had the same visuals you mentioned, and I was also experimenting with SSRI's at the time. For me, they did not help the situation whatsoever, and often made it worse. At one point, I used 60mg (triple dose) of Citalopram to lessen my DXM withdrawals, I ended up with seratonin syndrome for that night, but the day after, I felt like I was on E. odd.

I tried DXM once. Not fun. Made me sick and I had extreme vertigo. Wasn't even that enlightening. Now mescaline, that's where it's at.

^ mescaline...mmmm yummy

I took DXM a few times while on Paxil and never had any problems. As I dimly recall it seems like I wouldn't take any Paxil the day I took the DXM. I never experienced anything like serotonin syndrome or a free E trip..

DXM is just weird shit, nobody seems to know how it works since it affects so many parts of the brain. Probably in my case DXM is a mild SSRI and I also was just used to it after two years. I'd also never had anything like that happen before and I suspect I'd handle it better now.

In my case withdrawal started about 3 or 4 weeks after I stopped taking DXM, so I didn't even make the connection initially..

Now that I think about it I also got clonidine and klonopin, which calmed my heart and my brain and helped me sleep too.

The moral is, don't take DXM regularly.

you'd have to have a pretty shitty life, for that garbage to 'help' ... grow up ... :smokin:

by just reading the title, no shit
DXM sucks and its not even that great