Religion BAH! Phoney

yeah so all religion is fake, all it is are old cults that were able to survive the time. its a hoax, why follow something that you cannot see or hear? Some people may label me as ignorant, but I believe it is the other way around, if you follow a religion you are being ignorant about reality. I do belive in some higher power, not god, not jesus, no baloney. For all we know there could be some super high power that just controls our world, galaxy even as a video game like roller coaster tycoon.

End of rant.

Some people find security and peace in the idea thats why.

Have you even studied any religions at all or are you just talking out of your ass?

I just don't see how someone can be that secure with the fact that their preying to nothing, its like getting kids to send letters to santa

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Originally Posted by Baz2137

I do belive in some higher power, not god, not jesus, no baloney. For all we know there could be some super high power that just controls our world, galaxy even as a video game like roller coaster tycoon.

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You were doing fine until that part... you'll be a bible thumper someday. At least that's what this Jesus guy said down at the river yesterday.

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Originally Posted by rickytikki

the bible was written to stop a war it wanst a cult

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wrong, the bible was written so that we may have the answer to eternal life

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Originally Posted by UnitedWeFall

Open your mind a bit and maybe you'll see the whole point to religion.

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Money???

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Originally Posted by Lucifuge

Money???

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money? fuck money man. Money can't buy you happiness.

the point is the chicks.

I mean, catholic schoolgirl vs secular schoolgirl...


oh yeah, and to the original poster; yeah, you are sort of closing yourself off to the point. That wasn't even a good rant.

Could you come up with a better rant? I was just stating me views on religion, heck I could make up my own and if enough people could follow it. The belief of the most high power, the god mary jane and her disciples xtc, coke, shrooms and acid, If you use any form of these higher powers all your mistakes in life will be forgiven and you can be in your own imagination with your own world you can control.....i don't even know what i'm saying, but the point is if you tell people to follow something they like thats fake and tell them its real all it does is give them hope, which makes all religion pointless. the end

Religions were initially invented to do two things: (1) explain all kinds of phenomena that nobody could explain before science came along, like disease, weather, ecosystems, the stars, consciousness, etc. and (2) to justify the social norms of a society.

The Bible (at least the Old Testament) was written primarily for the second reason, I believe. The Jews needed a way to justify their traditions and laws, and being somewhat supernaturally-minded because they hadn't yet learned of science, they fit their mystical God character in as the solution. It wasn't enough to just have an arbitrary rule that nobody could eat pig meat, or that homosexuals should be stoned to death, or that wives should submit unquestioningly to their husbands. They had to say that the creator/dictator of the universe commanded it, and thus they are all obliged to follow it, or else it just wouldn't make any sense.

But having read the Old Testament, I have the sneaking suspicion that the God idea was largely molded by the military leaders of the Jews to make them braver fighters when they were conquering other nations. After all, when you're killing all the men of a city, stealing their virgins and expropriating their property, it sure does help when you think you're on a divine mission explicitly ordered by the creator/dictator of the universe, who will always be watching your back to make sure you succeed (as long as you follow him in whatever he tells you to do). That does seem to be a central theme in the Old Testament: follow God unquestioningly and worship him, and he will reward you. When God says it's okay, you kill your neighbors and steal their stuff, and your reward will be the houses, wives, slaves, oxen and asses that you coveted from them (just be sure to ignore those pesky Ten Commandments when following God's orders though).

a counter-rant?

very well then...

I think its the height of arrogance to claim knowledge of the boundaries of reality, to say what does and does not count and so claim a full understanding of causality free from "super-natural" causes. I am almost certain that there is more going on behind the scenes so to speak, and so simple humility keeps me from dismissing religion out of hand.

Religion has its faults but I have never seen anyone attempt to justify their own through religion. I have never told someone that they were a horrible person only to have them respond, "well, I'm a catholic". Religion is just one path some people choose to traverse through life. Blaming religion is just a cop out to avoid blaming the choices people make. And once you choose to blame religion instead of simply people's choices, you probably think you're no longer part of the problem.

But you are, because now religious people are just another big "them" category.

end rant.