cloning with hydro and jiffy pots

hello all
ok long story short.. i have grown in dirt for 10 years- no problem..

this is my fist time hydro, my mothers are doing beyond great but for the strain i dont know becose of my cross breeding about 6 years ago..
now to the problem and question.. my mothers ph is 5.8 and i am cloning to jiffy pots and also to dirt. now this is no BS i can pich a limb off of my mother and stick it in the dirt and it will have a 65% -70% chance of living.. doing everything possable for my jiffy clones they only have about 10% to 20% chance to make it to 4 weeks.. i have heat under the prop tray with dome and a internal res to keep humidy at 100% i do air exchage two or three times a day and they have 24 Hr light.. (flouro i have tried to shift the spect from cool white to warm white and also a mix :( )

i understand i could have ended up breeding a bad strain to clone..
but sice my moms are very happy at 5.8 ph what ph shoud my jiffy pots be?

do i treat them like the ph of dirt? or the ph of my moms?
my cloning jells are: root tec and power clone..
i want to put the clones in my hydro bloom area..

can you help me help my children?

thanks and now to toke up and wait.:rasta: :pimp:
:smokin:

stay in the low 6's to 6.5 for jiffy pots.

lw

thanks for the reply,

after they get good roots and i put them in with my moms. so the ph change from 6.5 to 5.8 shouldnt do much to them except for maybe a week of shock??

becose that is the problem area.. roots will be hanging out of the jiffy pot i put them under full light with my moms they seem to just sit there and grow roots all over the place But the leaves do nothing.. then most of the time (95%) the clone will start to die from the top of the plant down..

i have never had this to happen to me.. like i said.. im a dirt grower but i love the size and rapid growth of the hydro.. i have swiched half of my flower room back to soil..

thanks

my bong is calling.. its cold and lonely.. i must help it.:rasta:

personally...If I were a soil grower changing to hydro...I would start my seeds in rapid rooters or rockwool;) ...they are both more compatible with hydro

peat is a great starter/cloning medium, but it deteriorates and falls into the rez. Not good. I used them when I 1st started,:) because the 'ol lady helped and that is what 'she' knew. I just started 9 seeds directly into rockwool and they all popped in 2 days...See!

I had a blast with this the other day...it's new to me...I always started soil in soil and hydro in rapidrooter, but this is pretty awesome.:D :D :D You can transplant the rockwool into soil or hydro.:thumbsup:


final note: grow 1-2 in soil to cover your ass...I do every time. In fact this summer I am going completely soil, so I can rest.:p

goodluck

lw:smokin:

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Originally Posted by eat the roach

hello all
ok long story short.. i have grown in dirt for 10 years- no problem..

this is my fist time hydro, my mothers are doing beyond great but for the strain i dont know becose of my cross breeding about 6 years ago..
now to the problem and question.. my mothers ph is 5.8 and i am cloning to jiffy pots and also to dirt. now this is no BS i can pich a limb off of my mother and stick it in the dirt and it will have a 65% -70% chance of living.. doing everything possable for my jiffy clones they only have about 10% to 20% chance to make it to 4 weeks.. i have heat under the prop tray with dome and a internal res to keep humidy at 100% i do air exchage two or three times a day and they have 24 Hr light.. (flouro i have tried to shift the spect from cool white to warm white and also a mix :( )

i understand i could have ended up breeding a bad strain to clone..
but sice my moms are very happy at 5.8 ph what ph shoud my jiffy pots be?

do i treat them like the ph of dirt? or the ph of my moms?
my cloning jells are: root tec and power clone..
i want to put the clones in my hydro bloom area..

can you help me help my children?

thanks and now to toke up and wait.:rasta: :pimp:
:smokin:

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Ph of 5.8 is fine for jiffy pots, when I grow from seed that is what I prefer over rockwool. When you clone in them you really should use anti-wilt instead of a humidity dome. Cool white lights are what you are looking for to root them. When it's time for you to grow hydro you can just wash out the peat pots and have no residue behind to mess up a good hydro grow.

I just hate rockwool for just so many reasons.;)

thanks for the info!

when i start with seeds i can put them in anything and they will be fine..
i will look into the anti wilt.. my humid dome seems f*uck them up after the second week. i have a ton of rockwool.. about two months ago i made 35+clones with rockwool but only two lived.. and about time for harvest on them anyway.. mmmm they look great! i just cant beleve the probs im having with clones.. i feel like a newbe!

im thinking about trying air layering next.. sounds interesting, to grow roots on a clone While its still on the mom.. i also read that the genetics stays more like the moms than making a clone by cut and dip..

i have several PDF's about weed, hydro, areo, fogger and so on it still seems like the area is still open for discovery and i like to experiment.
thanks

I have the gauze/peat to do an air layering experiment...I have just been lazy...

genetics don't change due to cloning method...that is like saying you are closer to the genetics of your mom, because she had natural childbirth as opposed to cesarean...right?

lw

i agree, ( genetics) it was some nfo from one of my " grow bibles" (i have 3 or 4 of them) and they differ on some theorys.. but didnt explan how they came to each theory.. and some of the things suggested as a "sure thing" i knew from experience otherwise.. i found greenmans page helpful from time to time..

has anyone tried to feed their plants by fogger? i have but i cant see it being any better or worse than a DWC or DRIP.