:stoned: OK , I want to start a thread showing how cheap you can go and how it takes hardly nothing to grow..Im waiting on my dig.cam. to show off what I got rigged up right now but heres a couple old ones before my cam died...lol If it even works im new to the whole pic thing on here so bare with me ..lol OK first one is my cloning thing rig..lol anything that will stay warm will work if it holds water..I didnt have a heating pad so I found a stirofoam box put a fish tank light from a 10 gal across top and foil over the top of all of it ... took the air pump off the 10 gal and put in on the bottom of foam box had to find somthing that would float cause I didnt get the lid with the box so I used a lid from a smaller foam box poked hiles in it inserted to cuttings in it and floated it on the water added 1/4 MG...lol for real and thats it 2 weeks good roots ...I wish I would of toook a pic of the roots back then ....anyway I left the light on 24/7 and the air pump 2...only problem with this set up was the cutting had to be right under the light so the condinsation on the foil wouldnt drip on them ...for some reason if it did drip on them they would burn..bet that was a easy fix...second pic was some plants that came up in my back yard so i dug them up and brought them in ,,,,that was my VERY FIRST grow with dirt ..all bag seeds , not the best but smokeable..lol 3rd pic is the 400mh I picked up at a auction 10$ cleaned it up took it apart mounted bulb and socket in closet and ballast on shelf out side of closet and left it apart, it only gets warm now ...lol I got that buld for 26$ off ebay,,thought I got screwed but it showed up ..ok well ill put more pics up when I can of my other stuff...have a Q please ask ...peace