SUBSTANCE NOT NORMALLY TESTED FOR...

I know salvia divinorum is sold as "not affecting a drug test" and that it is not one of the NIDA 5, and if you use salvia, its not chemically similar to any of the NIDA 5, and you're supposed to be ok with regards to a drug test. But just out of curiosity, i have been trying to find detection times and trying to find out if it is water soluble. Does anyone know anything about detection times and solubility? Also, i figure if a urine sample is tested using GC/MS, would they not be able to identify the salvinorum a in the urine, seeing as how they would have all the substances in the urine broken down chemically? Does the law limit what they can identify? I figure there will be lots of shit chemically broken down, and they will probably just look for the molecular structures of the drugs tested for. Unless they do a toxicology report, right?

Salvinorin A is not water soluble. As for the tests, it is legal anyway. It doesn't result in a false positive for any of the DA-5, and Salvinorin A doesn't incriminate you. As for GC and such; you have to be in some serious shit if someone spends the money on chromatography. I have never seen someone get GC for drugs at my lab or hospital in 4 years outside of comprehensive toxicology screens done usually either postmortem or right before you die trying to save you.

is that to say that you cannot get in trouble for consuming salvia? As it is not legal for human consumption? Do you also mean that salvinorum a has a tendency to behave like the thc metabolite in that it sticks to the fatty tissue and is removed my the body at a slow rate?

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Originally Posted by ToKnoIsToGro

is that to say that you cannot get in trouble for consuming salvia? As it is not legal for human consumption? Do you also mean that salvinorum a has a tendency to behave like the thc metabolite in that it sticks to the fatty tissue and is removed my the body at a slow rate?

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In the US (if outside the US, tell me what country and I can give you more info), there is no law against consuming salvia (four states: Missouri, Louisiana, New Jersey, and New York) have passed legislation making some uses of salvia a minor criminal offense (some only if you are under 18), but only in those states. As far as human consumption - it is not legal to *SELL* salvia specifically advertised for human consumption because the FDA has to approve all foodstuffs that are sold commercially. However, there is no law against consuming it once you have it. In fact, the traditional method of ingestion is by quid (chewing up the leaves and holding them in your mouth). Most people smoke it these days though, because you really need fresh leaves to quid it.

As far as chemistry (and biochemistry and pharmacokinetics, pharmacodynamics, and anything else we want to throw in there):
It is nothing like THC. The only similarity is that neither of them are water soluble. I have no idea what the elimination half life of Salvinorin A is (how long it takes for 50% of it to leave your body).

I will say one thing that wraps it all up in a nice package:
I rolled a salvia joint a few weeks ago, went to a local police station (where a friend of mine works), and smoked it out there talking to my friend and two cops (I had a couple cigarettes too during the time). Neither cop cared, both knew it wasn't weed (it smells nothing like it), and there is no law against it. One of them even took a hit just because he was curious what it tasted like...

Very interesting. If anything i would have thought you could get in trouble for some kind of "use of a product in a manner which is inconsistent with its labeling". I think that is supposed to be some kind of federal law found on many chemical packages available to the public. Being that it is sold as an "incense", usually. Pesonally, i think it should be outlawed. It has very strong, intense effects (20x extract). Maybe if it were outlawed it would be able to be purchased for cheaper than $65 / gram for the 20x extract. Thats ridiculous, its more expensive than crack, kush, heroin, coke, ecstacy, shrooms, etc.