Kratom and Wild Dagga, MJ alternatives

So I was looking for Cannabis alternatives that are not hallucinogenic and I found this plant called Kratom, actually a tree that grows in Thailand and Malaysia. The leaves are merely chewed or made into a tea, and it has effects like codeine, plus other effects, some stimulatory. This plant, or products form this plant, is completely legal but rather rare. And there's Wild Dagga or Lion's Ear. The flowers of this plant can be smoked for a euphoric effect, and it's supposedly used in Africa as marijuana alternative. These plants don't seem to be toxic in any way, and have been used traditionally for quite a long time. Kratom seems to be particularly interesting. Anybody tried these?

I have both sitting with me. Many of my friends will attest to kratom being a good time, so long as you have a strong stomach. Wild Dagga is no good as a marijuana alternative ... I like it for a tobacco replacement though.

i read a bit about kratom too! it does actually look pretty good!:smokin: :thumbsup:

Got very curious from all the stories about the kratom. I used the resin extract once but it was not such a good experience, I found it was a bit too much af a downer and It made me nausicus like motion sickness what I sometimes have with other stuff.

I think it was also the taste that gave the nausia so I took this time 1.5 gram of the 15 x extract and eptied to capsules. These I filled with the extract and I took them. This is now 20 minutes ago but I do not fee anything yet. This not so strange since the capsules will take a bit longer to work then tea I amagine.