North Korea agrees to give up nuclear program

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/as...lks/index.html

Now if only Washington would follow Pyongyang's lead...

Ya, not gonna happen. They rejected the proposal in 1998, and they'll reject it every time. Their idea is that if nobody has nukes except the US, well, then the US is the only country with nukes! Woohoo! And if nobody has nukes including the US, well, then, somebody might get nukes and nuke the US!

**resisting urge to add another "Woohoo!"**

The world is never entirely going to get rid of nukes, and I guarentee it'll be because of the US.

I still don't understand how Bush can say nukes aren't okay for the North Koreans or the Iranians but they're okay for the Americans. Surely he of all people should be familiar with the Gospels' definition of a hypocrite as someone who applies standards to others that he fails to apply to himself. I don't see how he justifies applying the "WMDs are bad and need to be eliminated" standard only to foreigners. He somehow thinks nuclear, chemical and biological weapons are okay when Americans handle them, because obviously, Americans have discovered the secret to using these weapons ethically, but all them evil foreigners just want to be terr'ists and kill people. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ermitonto

I still don't understand how Bush can say nukes aren't okay for the North Koreans or the Iranians but they're okay for the Americans. Surely he of all people should be familiar with the Gospels' definition of a hypocrite as someone who applies standards to others that he fails to apply to himself. I don't see how he justifies applying the "WMDs are bad and need to be eliminated" standard only to foreigners. He somehow thinks nuclear, chemical and biological weapons are okay when Americans handle them, because obviously, Americans have discovered the secret to using these weapons ethically, but all them evil foreigners just want to be terr'ists and kill people. :rolleyes:

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Howdy ermitonto,

There's alot of differences between our goverment and it's systems of balances and checks,as opposed to those of brutal dictators who have no checks or balances..we use nukes to preserve,protect and defend the entire Free World,not just ourselves..whereas dictators only have war and conquest..on their minds..you may as well give a nuke to an insane person..it's about the same difference.

I would like to see this whole mess with NK end peacefully,there are many folks there suffering terribly and they need the help of the Free World. I wish the same for Iran,folks are suffering there too and many want democracy..but in the case of both countries,the leadership borders on the insane. Kim il Jung,wants to take over South Korea and destroy Japan and the Iranian mullahs,want to destroy both Israel,America and probably Britain,as well as conquer Iraq.

Have a good one ...

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Originally Posted by ermitonto

Now if only Washington would follow Pyongyang's lead...

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The major problem is this; Pyongyang never keeps his word! I find it amazing that he puts his nuclear ambitions ahead of the people of his country that are starving. What a wonderfull world we live in!!! :eek:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

The major problem is this; Pyongyang never keeps his word! I find it amazing that he puts his nuclear ambitions ahead of the people of his country that are starving. What a wonderfull world we live in!!! :eek:

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Howdy Psycho4Bud,

That's a big 10-4 ! Btw,Pyongyang,is the capitol of North Korea and Kim il Jung is the nasty little dictator.

Have a good one !

we need to keep a close eye on this,,as we all know,,the clinton carter agreement with north korea wasnt worth the paper it was written on..

however,,progress is progress.

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy Psycho4Bud,

That's a big 10-4 ! Btw,Pyongyang,is the capitol of North Korea and Kim il Jung is the nasty little dictator.

Have a good one !

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And a Howdy to you Torog!

I refered to that in the same manner as we refer to Bush as Washington. My blunder though....slid in a his instead of its.

Have a good one brother!!! :D

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy ermitonto,

There's alot of differences between our goverment and it's systems of balances and checks,as opposed to those of brutal dictators who have no checks or balances..we use nukes to preserve,protect and defend the entire Free World,not just ourselves..whereas dictators only have war and conquest..on their minds..you may as well give a nuke to an insane person..it's about the same difference.

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I don't know the Constitution as well as I should, but isn't it against Constitutional law to get involved in foreign wars that have nothing to do with us? Wouldn't policing of the world inevitably lead to a global dictatorship (which is what the shadow government or Ill.uminati have been planning and working towards for a long time)? Also, isn't the purpose of national sovereignty to keep our country safer (from harm and loss of freedom) by not getting involved in other countries' affairs? I know it's not ideal, we all want the world to be like America (well at least what America is supposed to be) but what about the laws of our Constitution?

Bush wants a global dictatorship.