God Help Us

God Help Us

By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, Aug 04, 2005


The relentless attack on public displays of spirituality and religion by progressive secularists has been extremely effective worldwide. Church-going in Western Europe, for example, has collapsed in many countries. Harvard professor Niall Ferguson calls the decline of Christianity in Europe "one of the most remarkable phenomena of our times."
Ferguson cites a Gallup Poll that shows barely 20% of West Europeans attend church services at least once a week. The number is 47% and falling in the USA. In Britain, only ten percent of those polled said they would be willing to die for their religious beliefs. And guess who loves that statistic? Can you say the Islama-fascists?

The decline of religious influence in the west can be seen in two very important areas. First, how the world is responding to the terrorist Jihad. And second, how societies deal with citizens who commit the most dastardly of crimes.

As this column has stated before, if all the world's nations would unite against terrorism, it could not exist. If the fundamental moral tenet of protecting the lives of innocent people superceded all other political concerns, Osama Bin-Laden and the boys would be on the gallows right now. But that is not the case, as we all know.

Terrorist acts are routinely justified and accepted by people who feel little for their fellow man. A once-proud country like Spain essentially surrendered to Al Qaeda after those killers bombed a Spanish train. The citizens of Spain had to know that pulling out of Iraq after that bombing gave Al Qaeda a huge victory. But many Spanish citizens simply didn't care. To them, Al Qaeda should be someone else's problem.

In America, the anti-religious forces are led by the ACLU and activist liberal judges who are aided by an increasingly secular media. It is no accident that we have thousands of child sex offenders running wild in this country. The crime of child sexual abuse used to be second only to murder. Now the ACLU defends the North American Man-Boy Love Association in court, claiming their free speech rights are being violated.

The founding fathers knew that religion, if handled correctly, could be a powerful force for good. The moral guidance provided by The Ten Commandments constrains bad behavior; that's why the Commandments appeared in Scripture. But, now, the secularists insist there is no place in the public square for the Commandments. There is no place for constraints that may offend.

Think it over. If every human being chose to set up his or her own moral program, there would never be a consensus of what is proper and what is not. There would never be universal outrage over terrorism or terrible crimes.

Moral outrage is the only way to defeat terrible behavior. Today, many of us don't even know what terrible behavior is. Could gangsta rap music have existed 30 years ago?

How about partial birth abortion?

Hitler and Tojo were defeated by men and women who were willing to die so those villains could not enslave and kill other human beings. It was moral outrage over Pearl Harbor that led to the demise of the dictators.

We had a semblance of the same moral outrage in America after 9/11, but that is ebbing away. The terrorists and perverts understand that only moral outrage will beat them back. A person or nation with no moral compass will never be able to summon up that outrage. A human being that lives in the gray area of right and wrong is likely not to make a stand against evil.

And that's what the evil doers are counting on.

Hmmm. A lot to swallow there. If the presence of religion is a factor in dealing with criminals, does that mean that the godless Soviet Russia would not have had the mroal compass to effectively deal with child molestors? No, I think they'd be on the first train to the prison camp.

I'm not going to try to defend the ACLU or NAMBLA. Nor will I defend Spain, who should have seen through their pledged commitment to Iraq. Whether or not the war was just, we are in the thick of it and if our allies leave the mission because of a terrorist attack, they are not only abandoning their friends, but disgracing their nation in the process.

When he talks about everybody being free to set up their own moral program, O'Reilly makes it sound as if it's a completely random process of deciding one's moral beliefs. Like without religion, it's doubtful that everybody would condemn terrorism. I don't have a religious bone in my body, but you can bet that my moral program doesn't look too kindly on terrorism. O'Reilly is dishing out a huge insult to the American people if he thinks we're not capable of uniting against terrorism without religion. We needed religion-instilled morality to fight back after Pearl Harbor? Please. Are there people in this country, who, for whatever reason, are not outraged and do not support our campaign against terrorism? Yes, but they are in the extreme extreme minority.

I believe this country is united against terrorism. Other countries may not be, but I don't believe Godlessness is the cause. I believe it's a classic example of countries looking out for their own interests, and apparently, terrorism does not register on that list for some nations. Do think it was lack of morality that caused us to abandon the Iraqi revolutionaries that we incited over a decade ago? Or how about so many genocides that we turned a blind eye to? Do you think it was a moral decision to sell deadly chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein, whom we knew was a madman at the time, so he could use them against innocent Iranian children? It's all a big chess game with every nation looking out for what they deem to be their interests. A chess game in which morality rarely plays a role.

Oh my god... O'Reilly should literally be crucified for writing this utter trash. With real nails.

Bill O'Reilly is proof that God hates us.

What a dumb ass.`

Well, whether you like it or not, as science progresses, Christianity loses influence. Hehe, that "moral compass" thing always cracks me up.

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Such Christians need to be reminded of the shortcomings of compasses. Compasses do NOT point to true north- never have, never will. Compasses also point in different directions depending on where you're at in the world. For example, a compass in Saudi Arabia will indicate north to be in a different direction than say a compass in Rome, Washington DC, or Salt Lake City. Also, a compass can be easily influenced to point in a totally wrong direction if some metallic coins were pocketed nearby.

In short, an "inner moral compass" is not to be trusted, as it may say "blow yourself up" in the Middle East, or "it's ok to lie to get elected" in Crawford, Texas.

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Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper

Hmmm. A lot to swallow there. If the presence of religion is a factor in dealing with criminals, does that mean that the godless Soviet Russia would not have had the mroal compass to effectively deal with child molestors? No, I think they'd be on the first train to the prison camp.

I'm not going to try to defend the ACLU or NAMBLA. Nor will I defend Spain, who should have seen through their pledged commitment to Iraq. Whether or not the war was just, we are in the thick of it and if our allies leave the mission because of a terrorist attack, they are not only abandoning their friends, but disgracing their nation in the process.

When he talks about everybody being free to set up their own moral program, O'Reilly makes it sound as if it's a completely random process of deciding one's moral beliefs. Like without religion, it's doubtful that everybody would condemn terrorism. I don't have a religious bone in my body, but you can bet that my moral program doesn't look too kindly on terrorism. O'Reilly is dishing out a huge insult to the American people if he thinks we're not capable of uniting against terrorism without religion. We needed religion-instilled morality to fight back after Pearl Harbor? Please. Are there people in this country, who, for whatever reason, are not outraged and do not support our campaign against terrorism? Yes, but they are in the extreme extreme minority.

I believe this country is united against terrorism. Other countries may not be, but I don't believe Godlessness is the cause. I believe it's a classic example of countries looking out for their own interests, and apparently, terrorism does not register on that list for some nations. Do think it was lack of morality that caused us to abandon the Iraqi revolutionaries that we incited over a decade ago? Or how about so many genocides that we turned a blind eye to? Do you think it was a moral decision to sell deadly chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein, whom we knew was a madman at the time, so he could use them against innocent Iranian children? It's all a big chess game with every nation looking out for what they deem to be their interests. A chess game in which morality rarely plays a role.

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Howdy Sgt. Pepper,

You bring up some good points and I appreciate your thoughtful reply.

I believe that thos folks who are not outraged over 9/11 and terrorism,is not the extreme minority that you claim,I believe that there's a much larger percentage than you realize. One of the main reasons why I believe that I'm right,is that most liberals I talk with,believe that American deserved 9/11/01,that we had it coming..because we failed to kiss the asses of the arab world and bow down to their demands.

I do believe that it was a lack of morality,in the instances that you cited,however,don't forget that the democrats have often throw up road-blocks that stymie a foreign policy that needs to be more moral..but can't,because of the amoral nature of the Left. It was a mistake to ever sacrifice any of that moral initiative,to the amoral,anti-semitic UN.

I agree,that morality rarely plays a role,in the chess game you describe,however,the religious Right is attempting to change that,we see a serious problem with moral issues in this country because of the agenda of the amoral Left.

Nope..it don't take religious instilled morality,to defend our Nation..but without a clear sense of right and wrong,Good and Evil..the will to fight against Evil and promote Good,is greatly diminished,because the amoral Left is confused about what's truly Good and truly Evil..why else would the Left believe that we had 9/11/01 coming and that terrorism is a legitimate form of dissent ? Why does the anti-semetic Left,believe that Israel deserves to be attacked with homicide bombers ? Because they are and have,rejected any form of absolute morality-except when applied to their enemies.

If the Left had their way,America would pull immediately out of Iraq,stop supporting Israel and disengage on the war on terror and issue a public apology to all terrorists in the world. The Left percieves terrorists as valiant freedom-fighters..because of the lack of a moral compass.

Have a good one ...

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Originally Posted by ermitonto

Well, whether you like it or not, as science progresses, Christianity loses influence. Hehe, that "moral compass" thing always cracks me up.

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Howdy ermitonto,

Actually,Christian influence,has steadily gained ground,despite all efforts of the scientific community and the Left,in fact,Christian influence has greatly increased at the polls,because of the scientific community..you also presume,that there are no scientists,who are religious..and there have been many religious scientists,who are contributing to science,without losing their Faith. If we ever develope sensors capable of detecting psychic energy,science may well indeed discover that God is alive and well..and in control of the universe.

Having a moral compass,based on good values,is a detriment and flaw,for someone who's a communist anarchist..you look for your salvation to come from the hands of Man..and not from God or Jesus Christ..it's no wonder that you laugh at such an idea.

Have a good one ....

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Originally Posted by Torog

Actually,Christian influence,has steadily gained ground,despite all efforts of the scientific community and the Left,in fact,Christian influence has greatly increased at the polls,because of the scientific community..you also presume,that there are no scientists,who are religious..and there have been many religious scientists,who are contributing to science,without losing their Faith. If we ever develope sensors capable of detecting psychic energy,science may well indeed discover that God is alive and well..and in control of the universe.

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The problem is that we can't find out what this "psychic energy" is, and Christians pose no mechanisms for how something not made of matter or energy can interact with the matter and energy that makes up the universe. Surely if something is actively interacting with the matter and energy we can see, it should already be detectable, no? Your Bible says it should.

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Having a moral compass,based on good values,is a detriment and flaw,for someone who's a communist anarchist..you look for your salvation to come from the hands of Man..and not from God or Jesus Christ..it's no wonder that you laugh at such an idea.

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Well, I don't think anything will bring "salvation" in the sense of making our existence perfect, but I think if we are to improve our condition at all, yes, it should be by us thinking of ways to improve ourselves and not from some ancient mythology which promotes genocide, slavery and sexism, a mythology which somehow believes in both forgiveness AND eternal punishment. How can I possibly believe in a Messiah who said he would come back in the first century and hasn't returned yet?