LED grow NO.3, testing the Pro-Grow 260 and Rhino Seeds. Blue Treacle & AK47 AUTOS !

Hey everyone,

So welcome to my third grow log which will be using the Pro-Grow 260 LED from Hydroponics Hut. In this grow I will be doing something I have not tried before... autoflowering plants.

The seeds I will be using are Blue Treacle Auto Feminised and AK47 Auto Feminised from the Rhino Seed website... I heard a lot about the Blue Treacle and expect it to yield some good buds for me ;) The AK47 is a well established strain so I am quietly confident in its genetic qualities.

So stay tuned as I will be germinating the seeds in the next few days and getting them started in their pots.

Take care all

S.L.

Hey leprechaun,

I've been following your journals with the PG260 and they've looked great man, propz to your skillz in such a small area.

I just got my ProGrow 260 and found that temps in my cab are over 31 with 4 cfls (6500k 23w). Anyway do you think your cfls did anything more than add heat? Your space was taller than mine so i think your setup is better to handle heat. Just wanted to know what you think of using just the LED throughout? I'm thinking even 1 cfl is too hot so I'm gonna test this thing out and see what it does by itself. Maybe if i get some spare cash later on I'll supplement another type of LED. But for now I'll just go PG260 and add some C02 during bloom.

So, you think that with sufficient temps the ProGrow will hold its own?

Sure, the Pro-grow 260 is good for 4 - 5 plants. Even on it's own without the added CFL it would get you some good bud.

I had a great yield in my first grow where I used just 80w of CFL. (4 x 20w). I really wanted the CFL for heating purposes.

My yield was a little less than the first grow in my second grow, I think because I used too much CFL (4 x 65w) and the temps were hitting 30+ degrees C.

Keeping the temps right is also very important. If they are too hot or too cold the growth will be stunted. Now that the summer is over the 4 x 65w should be ok.

I'll run the extractor a little quicker and vent out a window. I also use a carbon filter to minimise the smell.

With your issue with the heat, it might be that you are not getting enough draw from your extractor. What is the temp outside the tent ? One 23w CFL shouldn't heat up a tent.

Its been pretty hot where I'm at, so the temps outside along with my small cab space are the culprit I think. Im using a area 20 inches deep, 26 inches wide and 54 inches tall. Its small but good enough for just 3 I want to grow. I had 4 23w cfls in with the PG260 to start but when closed temps were up over 35c. I have a 80cfm fan blowin hot air out but its a booster and in reality only pushes half that at best. So i took out all the cfls and keep it open when on and temps are about 26-29c, outside been a steady 28-30c. I got a 6" inline 400cfm with speed adjuster on the way, hopefully I can control the temps then and put the cfls back. Got the larger fan cause Im testin the LED this round, if all goes well I'm gonna get a nice size tent and another PG.
One thing i found interesting though, is looking around the web nobody seems to have given the PG260 a run on its own, I was curious to how it performed by itself.

Update no 1.

So here are the ladies after about 1.5 weeks of growing, maybe.

I have 5 plants, 3 are AK47 and 2 are Blue Treacle, both feminised autos. I got the seeds from the Rhino Seed company.

The plants are just finding their feet and will soon begin to grow much stronger I'm sure. It is quite surprising how quickly they begin to bush out.

I had the seedlings on the veg setting of my Pro-Grow 260 until now. Today I switched to veg and bloom spectrum. Hopefully they will get a good boost from that.

The weather is getting much cooler here and the humidity is coming down too. I will wait until 2 weeks into bloom to switch on the 4x65w 2700k CFL.

Anyway, hope you enjoy the photos...

S.L.

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Godspeed

Sic Semper Tyrannus

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First I would like to say thank you for posting your grow journals they have been very informative!!! I have read your first two grows and I saw in one of your post that your friends purchased the Pro Grow 400. I was wondering how things are working out for them? I was on the fence as to which LED brand to go with however after reading your journal it has pushed me twards the Pro Grow brand. So I guess my question for you is it worth purchasing the 400 over the 260 for my 4'x4'x7' grow tent? Or are they comparable?

Thanks for reading my grows Twisted. I'm glad they could be of some assistance to you. My friend has the same size space as you do and the light is working well on about 7 plants.

You should check on the Hydroponics Hut website for more grow logs. The Pro-Grow 400 is a great light, however, I think I will be heading towards the Pro-Grow X5 pretty soon.

The Pro-Grow X5 is expensive however I think it would be worth it. If you don't have enough funds for the X5 I would definitely go for the 400 over the 260 for your floor space.

Maybe go another step up from the 400 to the 550... It will make all the difference... Led technology really does work... I'm happy I made the change as electricity is expensive here.

Take care bro...

S.L.

Update no 3.

Hey all, so there have been some big changes in my tent. My friend with the larger tent couldn't accommodate 4 of my ladies so I had to take them. There are 8 plants in my tent now.

To tell the truth I had a problem with the first attempt at germinating the seeds. All went great in the paper but the small peat cups I put them in dried up beside the fan.

I was sure these plants were doomed as the soil dried up even before they broke the soil... I watered them again and gave them to my friend, and they survived !

So I had already planted the 4 new seeds. I figured that I would only go 4 seeds at a time but as these autos are far behind on development I decided to keep them.

They will stay good and short and should not get in the way too much. I have heard that SOG is a very good idea when dealing with auto strains.

So here are the pictures to date. Most of the seeds turned out great, except the 2 plants at the back of the main photo. They are a little deformed but I saw this before so no problem.

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So hope you enjoy the pictures... I realise that this will be an interesting grow. I might lose some of the under-developed plants or maybe they will pull through... watch this space ! :)

S.L.

Update no 4.

Hey all,

So here we are just 36 days from sprouting and my ladies are already showing some great promise. They are only 2 weeks or less into bloom and there are pistil everywhere :)

Also trichome production has stepped up a gear. The original plants that were in the tent are now between 1.5 to 2 feet tall.

The plants I took back from my friend are coming along very well and are catching up on the more mature.

I think I'll be hooked on growing autos for a while. They are finished much quicker than regular plants. My lights stay on 20 hours per day everyday and this really beefs them up quickly.

So here are some photos for your pleasure. In case you are wondering where I got the seeds they are from the Rhino Seed company. Just talk to the member 'Cannabis Seeds' on here.

The light is from the LED manufacturer 'Hydroponics Hut'. It a great light and works well from veg to bloom.

Oh, and the last picture below is of my friends set up. The Pro-Grow 400 and 7 plants all doing well. The tent is 1.2m x 1.2m x 2m.

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