just not sure ?

hello

my bro gave me this plant about a week ago it was looking bad , but picked up .
now its looking worse , its had some growth and a has a broke branch iv only watered it slightly , im new to this , i thought it was over watered , but now im not sure , iv not given it any nuts yet , and was thinking seaweed extract?

pls take a look and offer any advice ,


H=Answer if you grow hydro or aero
C=Answer if you grow coco
S=Answer if you grow traditional soil
L=Answer if you grow soilless other than coco (Promix, Hyponex, SunshineMix)
R=Answer if you grow in RockWool
T=Answer if you grow in HydroTon
D=Answer if you run any type of automatic drip system, including into soil or soilless
E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol!


E-indoor or outdoor ..indoor
E-soil, soilless, coco, aero, or hydroponic.....soil
E-specific medium............potting compost
CSL-Soil type/brand
HCL-Hydro/aero/soilless system type
SCL-Anything you have added to the soil .....no
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH .....dont know
E-Water source.....tap water ..
E-Source water pH.....?
HRT-Source water EC (if hydro)
E-Age of plant.......... not sure 3 weeks maybe ?
E-Type of fertilizer.......none
E-Rate of application (if hydro, this is your PPM number, preferably after each component is added)
E-Lighting source and distance from plant 4 cfl 14w and 18w flortube , 3" from plant
E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period) 21/23 degrees
HD-Reservoir temperature.....
E-Air % Relative humidity....
E-Lighting schedule....... 18 hours light , was about to go 24 hour ??
E-Type of ventilation your room has...small fan
TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution?.. no

check temp, ph, and frequency of watering. not a defficiency.. If I were to guess, I'd say its too hot.. and your ph may be to high.

I see soooooo many problems comming from growers using CFL's. Make sure your bulbs are at least 8-12" away from the plant. 12 for now, maybe 8 when you perfect your technique and develop a good room humidity. I only use 2 and your using 4 which means your producing ALOT of heat and I imagine you got impatient so you probably moved the lights closer. Keep it on 18, thats perfect. They need the dark time for root growth which is essential with CFL grows. Set the timer to a time when you'll be less likely to poke your head in there the dark period is actually very important. Also if your using a fan make sure its not blowing on the plants directly as that will dry the leaves out and cause them to burn faster and easier. I take it your new to CFL's, the low down essentially is they cant flower for a shit but their AMAZING for veg. So, keep the lights at 18-6 for as long as you can, train the plant. Trim it up, grow it out not up. You can do this by trimming excess foliage and pinching the top of the plant, then. Once its the ideal size you kick it into flower. Its very important that the first day of its 12 hour cycle ( Flower cycle ) that you give it some kind of flower boost. Usually 1mil/ 5 litters. ONLY the first day. At this point the last thing you want to do is burn your plants and throw all the months of hard work your about to endure to shit. Hope this helps.

THREE INCHES FROM THE PLANT? Jesus man! Your going to fry them. 8 inches AT LEAST. And i'd only attempt that if my room humidity were perfect.

I use 26w cfls for my veg and they are a couple in. away with no problems. I use 1 single T5 for the newly sprouts then they get blasted with cfls. EZG is only using 14w. I would have serious stretch if my bulbs were 8 in away. Thats way too far for cfls. Hell my HPS is only about 12in away. As long as you have proper air circulation and temps get those cfls as close as a couple inches away.
You really need to listen to Douglas1. You find out your temps and ph then go from there.

That little soul looks like its been through the wars but there's decent new growth coming on so your doing better with it than the last guy. I agree also with Douglas1 to keep a close eye on your temps (which are fine at the moment), your watering (loads of threads here if your unsure) and if you don't already have anything to check your PH then thats your next step. If you can't afford a meter (can be bought for around 20 dollars) then an aquarium kit with drops is a decent cheaper option. The kit can at least help you keep the ingoing PH to around 6.5 but won't be accurate to measure PH of runoff water which is coloured by the soil.

Your lights are in a perfectly fine position for low wattage CFL's just make sure there's no chance of them falling onto the plant - this happens more than you'd think lol and keep them just a few inches from the plant. There's a load of CFL grows in the growlog section if you want to check out how others use them. 18 hours lights on and 6 off is great for veging plants.
Like the others said, air circulation is very important. I aim my fans at the space between the light and the plant canopy. This moves the hot air away, and gives the girls a big of a wiggle to help keep the stems sturdy.

A few other things to consider is your soil. Is it a pre-fertilized type or light nutrients, how long has the plant been in it, is it free draining etc? Don't rush to flood your plant with food either way, the last thing it needs is to be cooked with rich food. Its just something to keep in the back of your mind.
If its in fresh pre-fertilized soil it will be fine for a month or so. If in light soil start dosing, when your ready, very lightly at a quarter of whats recommended and work up slowly.

Those old fan leaves won't heal so don't worry about them now. The plant will decide whether to keep them or drop them. Please don't be chopping into it and stripping leaves at this stage, it needs as little extra stress as possible, there's been enough of that for her (hopefully its a her :) ).
Happy growing!

well all i can say to you lads is thank you , all of the reply's will help more then u think .

it is looking better new growth today :) iv droped the little girl another 3" away from the lights , i am worried about the heat/airflow . i am looking at a small PC fan ,

i have no idea what nuts if any where given and i would like to know when is the best time to train ? the little girl is under so much stress now , i dont think i have the skills yet to save ,

so i germinated 3 lemon haze seeds and will start fresh with them .

thank you all again ,

I've had plants I was sure were about dead come back to life. I had one just go limp on me with the leaves dying off, I said fuck it and almost pulled it but filled up the container with water, shaved off all dead vegitation and within a week iw as growing again, gave it to a friend and I was shocked when I saw it. Had another blow over in its cup exposing the roots and bending right at the base, another goner I thought but I managed to nurse it back and gave to the same person and it's thriving again.

It's amazing how hearty yet fragile these plants can be. I've noticed when a plant has a near death experience then recovers it is one hearty MF'r.

you know i cant beleave how well this is doing . the new growth looks very healthy . i tested the soil Ph 6.9 , iv not read up enough to fully understand this , from what iv looked up , it seems ok ?
im not even sure if this is a female plant ?. i will give it as mush love as i can and have named it " the Runt " .

my focus will be 90% on my babygirls . day 2 and already 2" , i took a good look at the heat issue and the temp is a constant 23 degrees 74 in US terms ? , again looks ok ? so my issue is with ventilation i think . so am gonna get a small fan and run it on timer with the lights ?
again tks for the help .

Three inches and your running serious risk even with proper air flow. You are right in what you say about stretching but thats why you pinch and trim. 8-12 inches is ideal for CFL's. I've developed a 3 month system with a really good yield. I tried the whole close as possible thing but found I just kept running into problems. The humidity in a room can drop completely in 3 minutes. Say your out for a few hours? One day you might regret being impatient and putting them as close as possible. I understand that it may sound absurd but they should not be any closer than 5 inches if you dont plan on not checking up on them every couple of hours. It could be very true that closer is better but most of the people saying that are probably extremely experienced growers. I wouldnt advise someone whose still asking questions and not completely comftorble to push their setup and plants to their limits.