My First Mixed Seeds Grow Log

Hello everyone,

First of all i apologize for my English.

I ve been following the forum for two years, i learned a lot in this time and i had 4 experimental grows. I didn't log them here but i will add some pictures of my old grows for you to see.

This is my first grow with grow log and with some other things such as brand seeds, soils etc. Hope we'll see the difference on growth with this log.

Here we go

Grow room: A small storage room without windows.
Grow area: W50cm x L60cm x H 200cm (for length additional 50cm is available. But will be needed extra light). Covered with black&white folio.
Lamps & Housing: 50cm x 60cm. 4x T8 and 6x e27 socket. and some good reflector folio under them. Total 200-250W planning.
Room Ventilation: 1 x intake bottom of the door and 2 x outtake top of the door.
Plant Ventilation: Intake: 2x 8cm silent pc fan (runs 24h), 1x 14cm case fan (runs with the lamps) Outtake: 1x 14cm case fan (runs with the lamps.)
Other Equipments: In/Out Thermometer & Hygrometer. Classical Music playing radio.
Water: 1:1 tap water:deionized water mix.
Soil: Green Label Totall Mix and peat, perlit, cocos, sand mix.
Nutrients: Hesi Soil TNT complex, Root complex, bloom complex, supervit, power zyme. Plagron Terra Grow, Terra Bloom, Alga-grow, Alga-bloom. Green Label Bio Booster. Aptus Bio final.

Grows will be in two group:
2 x Critical+ (Dinafem)
X x Bag seeds

I am not an advanced user of those brand seeds, nutrients and soil. I just get them from a festival for free. We'll see what happens.

Shopping List: PH meter, EC meter, reflector material, floro tubes, 25x25xXX pots. (XX: as long as possible)

I am planning to have 4 big pots in the area. 2x critical+ and 2x bag seed (or more if they can live together in one pot. I did before and it was ok). Since the bag seeds are old and have about %50 germination rate + %50 male rate, i planted 12 bagseeds in 3 parts.
First part planted at 19th of November and 4 of them showed up at 22nd.
Second part planted at 24th with 2 x critical+ seeds and first plant (bag seed) from this part came today (27th).
3rd part planted at 25th.
Now i have 5 plants showed up. Each under a cfl bulb. Two of them sharing 33W 6500k. 3 are seperately under 24W 6400k. All sharing 2xT8 18W 2700k and 6500k tubes.
141W in total and approx. 8250 lm.

Thermometer itself is on the surface where the pots are and I attached outdoor clip up, near the lamps so i am able the major highest and lowest temps in the area.
As result: near lamps (where there top of the plants) is around 26-28.5C , near surface is around 24-26.5C, Humidity is %30-40 Daytime. At night 20-22C and %40> humid.

I couldn't attach pictures. Let the log begin first, then we'll figure it out:)

I uploaded some pictures:

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Well, now i noticed. Those two fluorescents and 2 cfl's on the left are not on yet. They will be when all the seeds are up.

Also I will upload my previous grows as well. I didn't notice there were thumbnails. So this time they are in small size. Next time they will be larger.

Here i wil share my old growing pictures and some details. Since they're history there might be some missing information about details. I'll write as i remember. So, don't take it as a guide. Just look at the pictures and have fun.

My fist grow. Used standart plant soil from supermarket with tapwater and after a month or two added NPK granules.
1,2. Started near the window with 100w incandescent spot, a week later changed with 33W CFL in a parabolic reflector. 24h light. (There is one week between first two pictures.)
3. 5 days later i built a cabinet, placed 2 cfl lamps horizontally. Only 3 plants left, rest were males. On sunny days they were getting sunlight.
4. 2 weeks later there were 2 females only.
5. Added more lamps. Intake fans. I don't remember but i switched to 18 hours of light i guess. After a while went to flowering.
6. Near the end. 3 months old. other female was very small but same flowering.

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My second grow was better. Same soil and watering schedule. Started with more lamps. Intake fans. Got some organic nutrients.

1. The beginning with 5 plants. After a while 4 turned to male. planted more.
2. 1 female repotted, new generation is behind. Single female feed with NPK granules. Others are getting organic. Because of this organic pieces i got some flies i believe. I am still fighting with them even now.
3-4. 1 small female came out from organics. Was very healthy but in the end it burned out from over watering...
5. The older sister. Harvested in success.


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Third grow was the best of all with a little failure. I will upload those photos if anybody wants to see. Now chillin' a bit.

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Originally Posted by tevfik

Third grow was the best of all with a little failure. I will upload those photos if anybody wants to see.

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I decided to finish the history before anyone else writes a reply, so they'll be together in the very first page.
Here i'll go on with 3rd grow history.

This time started with better room setup. Lamps are stabilized. Added fans for each lamps. This fans are sharing the power adapter so they don't run with full power because of the noise they're making. Since there is heat from the bulbs fans turned out that many. Bag seeds planted in small pots with random supermarket soil and after a week all re-potted to the middle size.
1- 2nd week. of vegging. Added some nutrient granules to new pots.
2- 3rd week. Females (two on the back) potted to large pots. Two small still waiting for the sex confirmation.
3,4- The long female bended at the end of 3rd week coz it was already touching the bulbs. Other female is just fine
5,6- End of vegging stage. 5th week.
7- 2nd week of flowering.
8- 3rd week.
9- 4th week.
10,11,12,13- 6th week.
14,15,16- 7th week. Some problems occurred. Flushed.
17,18- 9th week of flowering stage. Problems got worse. Before this week when they were healthier topped buds from the LST lady. After this week all harvested.

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This is end of the history. I had 4th grow but i couldn't find pictures for it. If i find them i'll upload as well. But not here only to that photo sharing website.
here i give the link of the album.
All the pictures i have from the beginning to the end were this.

This was the history. Now lets focus on the new beginning. More photos coming...

End of the day one Critical+ and one more bag showed up from the second part of planting. I started giving numbers by age. 1,2,3,4 from the first part. 5 is bag seed from the second part. Sprout out this morning. 6 is the critical+. For an easy recognition i gave the number "6+" Sprouting out by now. 7 is the bag seed from the second part. also sprouting out by now.

To know them better here detailed soil info for each.
All 4 from the first part uses standard substrate mixed with peat 1:1. Pressed hardly. Added sand on top for keeping the soil wet.
From the second part, only Critical+'s using Green Label Totall Mix. Not pressed, just filled as it is and lightly compacted. More info about the soil:
Structure fine, moisture content 60, water capacity 6, air capacity %10
pH H2O 6,2 (+/-0,5) EC 1:1,5 1,2 (+/-0,4) Organic matter of the dry substance 75 Nutrition level High Wok 85 Weight 20
On the pack it says the fertilizer (N.P.K. + trace elements) supplies from one to three weeks depends on size etc. There is no more info about nutrients.

Bag seeds from the second part is using standard substrate: peat:totall mix: perlite approx. 3:3:3:1
For the third part i used peat moss:standard substrate:totall mix: perlite:sand approx. 4:3:2:1:1 ratio.

Watering all with 1:1 tap water:deionized water mix. added half amount of dosage tnt complex, root complex, supervit. I had to make 5 liters of mix to apply right amount of dosage. Watering with this water when the soil getting dryer. aprox. 2 times in 3 days. About 50ml per plant.

Questions
-I have about 9 liters of this totallmix substrate but it looks smaller than that. Should i make it fluffy like a feather pillows before putting into pot?
-I will make a mix (random substrate, peat, coco peat, perlite, and some other things on advice), use for all or use as it is for one or two plants only. Any suggestions on this?
- Is the water ok? What do you think about it?
-They all are in the picture. 2 and 4 looks a bit droppy and they have very dark color in the middle like red/brown. Why is that?

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This morning one more bag seed from 2nd part joined to the others and took the number 8. No signs from the others yet. Soil getting dryer, there will be watering in the evening.

"use for all or use as it is for one or two plants only. Any suggestions on this?

Prolly a good idea to use a "try me" on one or two plants only.

Impressive documenting!:cool:

Thanks for a fine grow log.
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Aloha,
Weezard

Thanks Weezard.
Now i realized i might be misunderstood. First two questions were connected. Somehow it ended up in the document like that.
"I will make a mix and add the totallmix in it or use that totallmix as it is." this what i meant actually. There will be other mix without it anyway. And using it as it is for one or two sounds much better. Since i used it for critical+'s i'm thinking to keep going with it to medium size pots and go to final size with some lighter substrate mix(will be decided later). Maybe this is too early to talk about. I'll re pot about a week or two weeks later but anyway talking is good, at least soon i will be able to attach photos here. Much comfortable :)

Second critical+ germinated. Took the number 9+
I think this amount is enough for the final light setup. Tomorrow i will run other lamps and set all the area for them nicely.
I made a graphic for the light fixture. Green numbers are the plants. White lamps are 6500k. Yellow are 2700k. There are two variants i am thinking on now. Either warm fluorescents are in the middle or sides. In the end there will be 181W 6500k and 36W 2700k(%16.5). Or should i switch all the fluorescents to 2700k? By doing that there will be 145W 6500 and 72W 2700 which makes the ratio of warm light %33
Any suggestions on this?

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Some seedlings....take more time that others....

one thing "Classical Music playing radio"....maybe try some Classic Rock every few days.....Van Halen.....Boston.......Styx.......Stones.....Sammy Hagar....
will help............:stoned: