30 days sans smoke, but failed at home test tonight

Hello all, first time poster, long time lurker

I've been clean for exactly 30 days now, but as the title mentions, I failed an at home drug test tonight. I actually took 2 from different companies. One had a ghostly faint little line and the other was an outright fail.

Basically, my pre employment drug test is coming in 1 week. I'll have 37 days clean by then, but based on the fact that I'm not clean yet, I'd hate to put all my eggs in that one basket. Further compounding the situation, I understand there to be a physical as well, so substitution probably isn't an option. Personally, I'm about 6'0 175lbs..somewhat active and an average diet. When I was smoking, it was to the tune of several gravities a day of decent weed to straight schwag.

What can I do in the next week to help clean myself out? I bought some 500mg niacin tablets. Other than that and eating lean, I'm at a loss.

This job is of dire importance, which is why I stopped smoking so long ago. I had no idea this would still be an issue 30 days later. Sighhhh..

Ideas?

You need to exercise when you take that niacin. While your metabolism is boosted up, exercise and start burning that fat out of your system.

Drink fluids to help your kidneys flush out the metabolized lipids. 37 days should be fine, most urinalysis tests aren't that accurate, anyways.

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Originally Posted by khyberkitsune

You need to exercise when you take that niacin. While your metabolism is boosted up, exercise and start burning that fat out of your system.

Drink fluids to help your kidneys flush out the metabolized lipids. 37 days should be fine, most urinalysis tests aren't that accurate, anyways.

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The dinky ones bought at Wal-Mart or the actual ones done by the medical office?

Thanks for the reply, by the way!

The niacin I have are 500mg tablets..It says to take one a day. I've heard that overdosing on niacin happens around 1500-2000mg. I'm fine with burning a little bit, but should it be kosher to take 2 of these a day? Maybe one in the morning and one at night?

Niacin is an old myth. It does nothing to rid the body of THC.

There is no product that can rid the body of THC. Only time and exercise can do this.

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You need to exercise when you take that niacin. While your metabolism is boosted up, exercise and start burning that fat out of your system.

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Anytime you burn fat cells, the stored THC metabolites are released back into the bloodstream. The kidneys filter the THC metabolites from the bloodstream and deposits them in the bladder. THC does not burn away with the fat cells.
For this reason, all exercise should be avoided 3 days before the U/A. Youd want to go into "storage mode" - be lazy as possible to prevent a bunch of THC metabolites from being released, which will end up in the urine to be detected.

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Drink fluids to help your kidneys flush out the metabolized lipids.

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Drinking fluids only dilutes the THCA concentration thats present in the bladder. The idea is to "thin out" the THCA concentration just enough for the urine sample to register below the cutoff thresholds of the drug screen. This action is only temporary. Once the fluids ingested had been voided out, the dirty donor will resume testing positive for THC. Drinking fluids has no effect on GFR (the rate of which THCA is filtered from the bloodstream by the kidneys), so therefore drinking fluids days before the U/A is of no help.


Home tests are only accurate if the first urination of the day is being used. The assays used at the lab are no more accurate than the home testing kits, since they function on the same principle.

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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast

Niacin is an old myth. It does nothing to rid the body of THC.

There is no product that can rid the body of THC. Only time and exercise can do this.


Anytime you burn fat cells, the stored THC metabolites are released back into the bloodstream. The kidneys filter the THC metabolites from the bloodstream and deposits them in the bladder. THC does not burn away with the fat cells.
For this reason, all exercise should be avoided 3 days before the U/A. Youd want to go into "storage mode" - be lazy as possible to prevent a bunch of THC metabolites from being released, which will end up in the urine to be detected.

Drinking fluids only dilutes the THCA concentration thats present in the bladder. The idea is to "thin out" the THCA concentration just enough for the urine sample to register below the cutoff thresholds of the drug screen. This action is only temporary. Once the fluids ingested had been voided out, the dirty donor will resume testing positive for THC. Drinking fluids has no effect on GFR (the rate of which THCA is filtered from the bloodstream by the kidneys), so therefore drinking fluids days before the U/A is of no help.


Home tests are only accurate if the first urination of the day is being used. The assays used at the lab are no more accurate than the home testing kits, since they function on the same principle.

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BZZT! your system. That means exercise, otherwise those metabolites interfere with other processes, mainly vitamin absorption, and that will destroy your chances of passing a drug test.

5 years probation, never stopped smoking. Tested CONSTANTLY since my probation was an out of state transfer.

Take the niacin, exercise, drink water, boost your metabolism, and burn lipids out and thus remove THC from your system (otherwise it's just a slow release as your body slowly metabolizes it, and you'll be left with a constantly-detectable level of drugs in your system,) and eat plenty of soluble fiber. This is how you detox your body.

The joys of having dated a doctor.

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Originally Posted by khyberkitsune

BZZT! your system. That means exercise, otherwise those metabolites interfere with other processes, mainly vitamin absorption, and that will destroy your chances of passing a drug test.

5 years probation, never stopped smoking. Tested CONSTANTLY since my probation was an out of state transfer.

Take the niacin, exercise, drink water, boost your metabolism, and burn lipids out and thus remove THC from your system (otherwise it's just a slow release as your body slowly metabolizes it, and you'll be left with a constantly-detectable level of drugs in your system,) and eat plenty of soluble fiber. This is how you detox your body.

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BZZT! Do your research! Because if you had done your research on how the human body processes THC, youd understand that having your metabolism in high gear so close to test time (as the OP is experiencing) will do more harm than good.

Again, whenever fat cells are burned, the stored THC metabolites are released back into the bloodstream. They are only "removed" from the body via excretion thru the urine, the bowels, and to a very miniscule extent, sweat.

Its very irresponsible of you to advise someone (particularly with a job riding on the outcome of a U/A) to kick their metabolism in high gear when their scheduled U/A is just right around the corner. Again, do your research before giving advice that can cause someone to lose their job, or worse, end up in jail.

So what would you suggest I do Burnt Toast? Eat fatty and be lazy for the next week? I know if you "starve" yourself, as in eating inconsistent and far apart meals, your body tends to go into "storage mode."

This has just taken me by such surprise..I figured 30 days would be plenty of time for a young person (I'm 24)

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Originally Posted by OldManNoPants

So what would you suggest I do Burnt Toast? Eat fatty and be lazy for the next week?

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Do this step at least 3-5 days before your scheduled U/A. And seriously consider subbing, even though you may be taking a physical. Theres many posts in the forums of persons pulling off a successful sub while undergoing a physical. Utilize N2's Dilution recipe (the "Sticky" thread) as a backup in case for some reason you cannot obtain a clean substituted sample. Just be sure when utilizing any dilution techniques, you start your creatine-loading 3 days before the U/A to allow time for the body to metabolize the creatine into creatinine (the end waste product found in urine in which the labs check in determining an overdiluted sample).

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This has just taken me by such surprise..I figured 30 days would be plenty of time for a young person (I'm 24)

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The 30-day rule does not apply to everyone. In fact, its not all uncommon for frequent users to take longer than 30 days to finally test negative naturally. The longest ever reported was 105 days. Of course this person was a longtime heavy user, weighed in on the wrong side of 350 pounds, and indulged in zero physical activity.

Hey Burnt,

I see where FBR is very adamant about drinking lots of fluids before in the days before a test being a waste of time IF one was already properly hydrated, but I got to thinking.

I have never been one to drink adequate amounts of water in a given day. Normally, it's either sweet tea or coke for me. There's not a doubt in my mind that I haven't been properly hydrated in a long time. In my instance of being 31 days clean now but failed a home test last night, would it be beneficial in my case to chug water and cranberry juice due to my consistent lack of hydration?

Anyone else knowledge, please feel free to chime in.

Oh yeah, I've been searching the forums using the search function and trying different combination of words and such, but I'm having trouble finding anyone who has commented on substituting while also having a physical done.

For your own health benefit, it would be wise to increase your fluids, but I've been told ( By Burnt Toast) that a signifigant increase in fluids before a test will seriously dilute your urine...which labs consider an automatic fail.

Not sure if that helps, but that's what I was told.:)