Jews Against Zionism, and Only Zionism
There are numerous groups in the political world that claim to be against Zionism and the Jewish state of Israel. When I first learned out about Zionism and Israel back in 2005, I was surprised to find a few Jewish groups who were also anti-Zionist. At first, I supported these groups and the actions they did, such as protesting and educating people about the difference between Judaism and Zionism. I learned that Zionism was totally against traditional Jewish beliefs and that it was nothing more than a materialistic movement to conquer and own a piece of land. After supporting groups such as True Torah Jews Against Zionism and Neturei Karta International for a few years, and after much research, I realized the deep truth about these groups. They are against Zionism and only Zionism.
Jewish State of Israel
What I mean by this is that they aren??t against anything else regarding Jewish criminality or primitive behavior. They still circumcise, believe in the Torah, Talmud, anti-Semitism, and also the Holocaust. Of course they oppose the state of Israel, but an important question to ask is, ??why do they not support the Jewish state of Israel?? Looking through Neturei Karta??s website, I find that they oppose Israel and Zionism because apparently the Jews are supposed to be in exile right now according to their Torah, and are to remain in exile until the ??creator? comes down and grants them a kingdom. Here is a direct quote taken from their website:
??The only time that the People of Israel were permitted to have a state was two thousand years ago when the glory of the creator was upon us, and likewise in the future when the glory of the creator will once more be revealed, and the whole world will serve Him, then He Himself (without any human effort or force of arms) will grant us a kingdom founded on Divine Service.?
It should be obvious that they believe they are the ??People of Israel? and have been for thousands of years. They read from the Torah and Talmud, and carry out its primitive practices and traditions laid out in them. They claim that Judaism and Zionism are totally opposite from each other, which to some extent is true. Zionism should not take all the blame. But from what I have seen, Zionism spawned from Jewish beliefs. Just look through their ??Holy? books and see what is written in their pages. You will find that the state of Israel is no different in its actions against the Palestinians. They have stolen the land and are now fully taking it over through means of rape, genocide, and murder.
The Talmud
Looking around on True Torah Jews website, I found a ??Questions and Answers? section. In this section, I found a question someone asked which was ??How do true Torah Jews view the Talmud?? Here is the most significant part from the response given by a Jew from the site:
??At that time the Sages became afraid that the laws would be forgotten, and they decided to write them down. This written work was called the Mishnah, and is the backbone of the Talmud. Even this Mishnah was written in a concise style and left much room for oral explanation, which went on being passed down for another 300 years. At that time it was written down, again out of fear of being forgotten, as the Talmud. All of Jewish law today is based on the Talmud, and is kept by all observant Jews. There have been break-off sects in history - once in about 300 BCE and another in about 700 CE - who rejected the orally transmitted laws. But they are almost non-existent today.?
It should now be obvious what these ??anti-Zionist? Jews stand for. They only reject the state of Israel, and nothing else. They don??t reject the Talmud??s vile teachings, or the primitive ritual of circumcision on little, helpless babies. They don??t reject the made up story known as the Holocaust. They also defend what is written in these books and claim that Gentiles have misinterpreted the meaning of the text. I also wonder if they recite the Kol Nidre prayer during Yom Kippur. If you have not heard of "Kol Nidre", I urge you to look into it.
Anti-Semitism
So-called ??anti-Semitism? has been around for thousands of years and has existed much longer than Zionism. Taking a look around the True Torah Jews website, one can find a section on ??anti-Semitism?. They state that Zionism promotes anti-Semitism. Here is a direct quote from their website about the issue:
??Anti-Semitism is prejudice or discrimination against Jews, based on negative perceptions of their religious beliefs and/or on negative group stereotypes. Anti-Semitism can also be a form of racism, as when Nazis and others consider Jews an inferior "race?.?
I guess they haven??t heard of Jewish author Benard Lazare and the quote from his book which states that the reason for so many expulsions of Jews throughout the years must be rooted within the Jews themselves. The word ??anti-Semitism? today is manipulated in any and every direction possible. For example, if you criticize the state of Israel or its policies, or if you speak out against Jewish crimes against humanity, you will be labeled as an ??anti-Semite?. Maybe the reason why they are disliked is because they proclaim to be the ??chosen? ones and for that reason are superior to Gentiles. There are numerous quotes by rabbis proclaiming that Jewish lives are more valuable and precious than any Gentile life. If you think what I'm saying is out of line, then I urge you to read Israel Shahak's book, "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years." Shahak was an Israeli Jew and knew much about the teachings of the Talmud and its laws against non-Jews.
The Holocaust
These Jewish, anti-Zionist groups also believe the fairy tale known today as the Holocaust of World War II. They point out that some Jews and Zionists intentionally collaborated with the Nazis in order to ensure the state of Israel as their future home. They will point this out all day, but will fail to look into Jewish Holocaust researcher David Cole and his informative film ??The Truth Behind the Gates of Auschwitz?. Instead they perpetuate the Holocaust lie and Jewish suffering, while showing you Zionist collaboration and tell you how evil the Zionists are. Now, I??m not implying that Zionists are not evil or disagreeing with what they are saying. I am only pointing out the fact that they fail to show the whole truth or even believe the whole truth.
Also, Jewish author Norman Finkelstein wrote a book about the Holocaust titled ??The Holocaust Industry?. A lot of people call him a ??Holocaust denier?, but he actually still believes in the Holocaust fairy tale as well. He has exposed the industry in which Jews are profiting from this made-up story, but almost anyone with a brain and critical-thinking skills can see this fact. So many stories are made up by lying Jews who wish to gain support, sympathy, and money, and are then exposed in the news every year. A lot of Jews are profiting from these fake stories, such as writing books about them and having entire Hollywood films made as well. The Jews Against Zionism are not doing any good by pushing this fairy tale.
Conclusion
In conclusion, let me state that these Jews are doing something good, such as opposing the state of Israel and on the surface it looks good. But digging deeper into it, one will find out that these Jews are doing it for all the wrong reasons, while still believing in their ??Holy? books, made up stories, and practicing their primitive rituals. They only oppose this criminal state because their Torah says they should be in exile. These Jews are against Zionism, and only Zionism.
Jews Against Zionism, and Only Zionism
Jews Against Zionism, and Only Zionism
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Originally Posted by WIlDuce1883
So many stories are made up by lying Jews who wish to gain support, sympathy, and money, and are then exposed in the news every year.
Uh... Duce, this post makes me pretty uncomfortable. I just picked out one quote for illustrative purposes. While I don't disagree with the premise, the language seems intent on inflaming the reader against Jews because they are Jewish. The whole post has the smack of denying the events of WWII.
I've read a lot of Finkelstein's work including the Holocaust Industry. It's in my library downstairs. He is a very good read and extremely well spoken. If you ever get the chance to see him speak you should not miss it. He is quite clear about the events, though. His grandparents were at the death camps. His beef is with how the Holocaust has been used and distorted in the service of Israel, not with the veracity of the events themselves. He also makes the valid point that 20 million Russians died during WWII and that all kinds of others end up in the Death Camps. But he does not deny that the Nazis targeted Jews first and foremost.
Jews Against Zionism, and Only Zionism
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Originally Posted by bigsby
Uh... Duce, this post makes me pretty uncomfortable. I just picked out one quote for illustrative purposes. While I don't disagree with the premise, the language seems intent on inflaming the reader against Jews because they are Jewish. The whole post has the smack of denying the events of WWII.
Yes, and we all have a different opinions on events that transpired in history. That's as far as I will go. I could show some more examples, but I will back down because I do not want anyone to feel more uncomfortable.
Personally, I do not like Dr. Finkelstein because he contradicted himself in advertising the Holocaust when his notion was that his own kind did that to profit off of it. This was an Iranian station called Sahar TV in a debate with Lady Michelle Renouf. I can find the videos if you'd like, but if you don't, then I will refrain from doing so.
Jews Against Zionism, and Only Zionism
yeah but watching Finkelstein go up against Dershowitz - priceless.
Jews Against Zionism, and Only Zionism
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Originally Posted by bigsby
yeah but watching Finkelstein go up against Dershowitz - priceless.
Dershowitz is a headache and a half. Island Born would find him interesting.
