Topped at 2nd leaf stage: Got V branches as normal, but top grew back as well! 3 tops

Well, as earlier noted SWIM topped one of his plant early as an experimentation.

At second leaf stage it was topped, and two new branches grew out in the normal V shaped fashion. However, a few days later, SWIM noticed that the main stem that was topped off was growing back! ?

Is this common or could it be something happening because SWIM topped it so young? SWIM didn't think anything would grow up from the topped part itself.

So, the two new main branches are bigger, and the one that magically re-appeared is smaller. Using LST on the two bigger ones to get more light to the smaller to help growth. 3 is always better than two

Never had this happening before so SWIM wondered if this is common and if others experience this when topping their plants?

Attached photos. Also a photo of the light source and setup from further away.

Cheers
-M

Way to early.

-C

Yes doing it early was the whole point of the experiment.

So what do you think about the main stem growing back so now it got 3 top stems instead of just two as normally with topping?

So, this again means that doing it early as SWIM did can be better as it can give more top stems and the plant seem to do fine, healing and growing well.

LST in process should help too, with the light (65w CFL and 30w CFL) very close, letting all 3 tops exposed to lots of light and growth.

-M

Surgery on infant plants is not dissimilar to surgery on infant kids. Everything is so small, it's easy to screw it up.
Instead of 'topping' them, you've given 'em a 'FIM'. (Fu*k, I Missed)
If you 'pop' the tops off instead of using scissors, this event isn't as likely to happen. Being such a young plant though, damaged cells rebuild and sometimes the youngster get's the reapirs wrong.

After butchering them this early, hopefully the stress won't stunt them and prevent a full recovery. They aren't healthy (mature) enough to dick with yet, but you knew this already. Usually happens if you don't slice between the youngsters nodes, and leave some part of the mainstem.

Looks like overwatering and a lack of perlite, too. What kind of soil?

Thanks for the info. And yes overwatering, its simply due to the plants having been just transplanted from one container into a new one when the photo was taken. SWIM had 3 different plants in the same container so he had to move them over into separate containers.

The soil is a mix of his own garden soil with a bit of sand and various pebbles and tiny stones mixed in, along with couple earthworms. That's all he had at hand , he will see if its going fine enough as it is, if not he will transplant into better soil that he first gotta get hands on including perlite and peat moss which he really don't know where to buy here but he suppose he should be able to find some place since he lives on the countryside in a small farmer town. The "pebbles" currently used are kitten litter, I am not sure if that actually is perlite but it looks just identical ( just like this http://drycreekcactus.com/soils/perlite.jpg )

He normally do not grow inside or use any special soil, as he lives in a country where its legal to grow and use, and normally just have it in his garden. But right now its winter and too cold outside so he thought to try his first indoor growing and experimentations.

Cheers

SWIM got his hands on Peat moss, Perlite and store-bought soil ("organic compost" - "for better drainage and porosity").

So now he wonders what ratios he should mix these three together? Any suggestions there?

He wants to transplant his planties over into a new clean soil as the one he got them in now is from his garden, kinda compact and got lotsa bugs and crap in it.

Cheers.

Humm seems to be a pretty interesting experiment.. Cant wait to see the outcome of this all.

Well SWIM took the perlite, compost-soil and peat moss and mixed it together. He used about one third of perlite to the soil, and to the complete mix of soil and perlite he used about one fourth of peat moss, and mixed it together as well as he could.

Then he did the painstaking and long job of transplanting his planties from their nasty muddy soil to the new one that is "the way its supposed to be" more or less. Hopefully this will give the plants some joy. He also put the 3-headed baby into more suspension through LST-technique to not only bend the two new tops away from the middle, but also bend down the upper part of the plant itself.

The reason for this is to let more light reach the sidebranches so they will reach out and up and make the main stem of the plant itself grow horizontally around the edges of the container with only the branches sticking up with their tops and the thre main tops spread in each their direction as the plant grows until they've spiralled all the way in to the middle of the container they are in and meet back with the stem.

The point of this is to increase yield, avoid height, and get more bushy plant. Here is an illustration of the process both "side view" and "above view" during the plants growth through time and twirling around within the container being helt down, in my case, by bindes, and some example photso of a plants LST'ed. All photos shows only one plant per photo, and what LST can get out of your plant.

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Originally Posted by mahavatar

The reason for this is to let more light reach the sidebranches so they will reach out and up and make the main stem of the plant itself grow horizontally around the edges of the container with only the branches sticking up with their tops and the thre main tops spread in each their direction as the plant grows until they've spiralled all the way in to the middle of the container they are in and meet back with the stem.

The point of this is to increase yield, avoid height, and get more bushy plant. Here is an illustration of the process both "side view" and "above view" during the plants growth through time and twirling around within the container being helt down, in my case, by bindes, and some example photso of a plants LST'ed. All photos shows only one plant per photo, and what LST can get out of your plant.

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Not trying to steal a post/thread but I cannot find Your orig thread for that LST Diagram, But I was wondering what you are using/going to use to tie down the main stem around the planter or are you tieing to the soil? Here's my thread. I think you may have already read it. But lemme know what you think I can do to better enhance my yield,

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...er-stairs.html

Either using strings or thick rubber bands connected to something suitable. BTW those diagrams and photos are not mine, it was something I had collected on LST and I don't have the source for them here right now.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone know what could be wrong with this particular plant, its leaves are covered with dark brown spots unlike any of the others.

Its held down using binders for LST which works great at this stage.

Should these leaves with brown spots be cut off or trimmed some or left as they are? And what can be the cause? The only light source is one 65w CFL and one 30w CFL placed about a fist sized height above it. Tin foil reflectors around. Spray with water-dust now and then.

Also adding some photos of the 3 headed one and how its tied down with binders, the point is to let one top grow to the right, the other to the left, and I have not decided about the middle one yet.

-M