Here comes the hearings on sb 2401, I sure hope this gets shot down.;)
HB 2401 - 2009-10
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Here comes the hearings on sb 2401, I sure hope this gets shot down.;)
HB 2401 - 2009-10
Why shot down? I for one would love it legal. Easier access.
It would be great allowing for a growing license for a nominal fee, but not state run sales. They denied and ran with the myths and lies about it for years and now want to cash in. What hypocrites. Its less harmful then legal tobacco and alcohol. No wonder the people are hating the government, it is such a lying, self-serving, spendthrift, wasteful body. An open market with a sales tax is all they need. Its time for the states and feds to get out of legislating morality and personal choice. Its unAmerican.
But let's not forget about the harm it does to kids, the government needs to manage everybody's life while running the government into the ground. :S2: And kids now days have no fucking discipline whatsoever, and are dumber then a box of rocks. Punish them and they run to the state and claim abuse from their parents. It makes me sick. Now I have to go and get my tomato growing and backyard garden license!!!!!! :D
Its always about the money isn't it. I would prefer they leave the old law the way it is and add a section for dispenaries and coops. They can tax the dispensaries if they want.
I just enjoy smoking my medicine, if it is legal, it means less people in Jail over BS....I think people who smoke cigs should be jailed for killing themselves willingly.
I couldn't agree more killerweed420. They removed any co-op and dispensary legislation in GSB 6032....:wtf: Now they want to sell it and manage the whole damn industry.:mad::mad::mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by killerweed420
I don't think you have clue 1 as to what your access will be if this bill passes. YOU WON'T GET SHIT FOR MEDICINE. !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Greensmokey
New mexico passed a similar bill, it called for the state to provide for us patients. They refused claiming feds will arrest them.....Wa. state is known for pulling fed over state. This was the excuse they used already in our MMJ laws for NOT ALLOWING DISENSARIES AND CO-OPS....:mad:
Read before you bleed.:thumbsup:
You think it will stop us from going to jail over it? think again greensmokey.;) We all turn into felons for being sick. And since the feds won't allow any farmgrowers ( see Monson v. DEA in the legal section) no-one will be legally supplied. Anyone caught with cannabis will be prosecuted heavily....
So whats your take on this?
Can you spell it out for me? I'm not legally minded.
I think I can still grow my own, legally. The scary language I believe is geared toward farmers that provide for the state. No one else can sell. Its worse now then it will be if it passes. I think. I know you prolifically plow through piles of data on this subject. Canna care has gone stale since your departure. What the hell happened there anyway? Steve has his own little dictatorship over there.
Seems the only reason he wants to stop the bill is so he doesn't lose his comfortable nitch in the current market. Can't blame him. I guess there is new legislation being proposed by cannacare designed to give us better protection. If HB2401 gets killed hopefully this new one will get passed.
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Incase they've blocked your IP here it is.
Proposed changes to RCW 69.51A for the 2010 Legislative Session
RCW 69.51A.040
Failure to seize marijuana, qualifying patients' affirmative defense
Qualifying patientsâ?? protection from arrest and prosecution.
(1) If a law enforcement officer determines that marijuana is being possessed lawfully under the medical marijuana law, the officer may document the amount of marijuana, take a representative sample that is large enough to test, but not seize the marijuana. A law enforcement officer or agency shall not be held civilly liable for failure to seize marijuana in this circumstance.
(2) If charged with a violation of state law relating to marijuana, any qualifying patient who is engaged in the medical use of marijuana, or any designated provider who assists a qualifying patient in the medical use of marijuana, will be deemed to have established an affirmative defense to such charges by proof of his or her compliance with the requirements provided in this chapter. Any person meeting the requirements appropriate to his or her status under this chapter shall be considered to have engaged in activities permitted by this chapter and shall not be penalized in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, for such actions.
(1) Any person that meets the criteria for status as a qualifying patient or designated provider; and is engaged in activities permitted by this chapter, shall not be arrested, charged, or be penalized in any manner, or be denied any right or privilege, for such actions.
(3) (2) A qualifying patient, if eighteen years of age or older, or a designated provider shall:
(a) Meet all criteria for status as a qualifying patient or designated provider;
(b) Possess no more marijuana than is necessary for the patient's personal, medical use, not exceeding the amount necessary for a sixty-day supply; and
(c) Present his or her valid documentation to any law enforcement official who questions the patient or provider regarding his or her medical use of marijuana.
(4) (3) A qualifying patient, if under eighteen years of age at the time he or she is alleged to have committed the offense, shall demonstrate compliance with subsection (3)(a) and (c) (2)(a) and (c) of this section. However, any Any possession under subsection (3)(b) (2)(b) of this section, as well as any production, acquisition, and decision as to dosage and frequency of use, shall be the responsibility of the parent or legal guardian of the qualifying patient.
I take it this is troy6016? Of coarse it got dull at cannacare because? you tell me.LMAO. No one there knows much about anything when it is legal in nature, they just guess at it.
I do keep up with what's going on there daily....SteveS is correct in his legal analysis of the bill. Had he listened to me he would have added "IS NOT A PUBLIC OFFENSE" into his claim to fame bill.
I requested to be banned months ago because iso is a dork and has huge personality conflicts(he kept threatening me in PM messages over stupid drama shit). Then when I spoke too steve and he informed me our medical records never got returned from the raid on his same place we all now get our authorizations at,nor did he file for any return, I FINALLY HAD LOST IT !!!! I got tired of being lied too and watching it on-line to others, when I posted that iso was full of shit on the spidermite spray being safe to use, it got really bad in the PM section. I said fuck off and refund my money(since it was only 2 months old and never used)
As for my avatar, well no need to be a pitbull here so far. It sure changed peoples attitudes when patch went up though LMAO. ya already know what happens when a real pit is in your face. It gets ugly real fast like.
So hope this answers your questions and curiosity.
peace, love, and tranquility till ya piss me off. (just thought i'd pull a steve real quick like) LMAO. stupid is as stupid does.lol
P.S. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GROW UR OWN, LEGALLY THAT IS, IF CAUGHT YOU GET HOSED OUT BY A BIG HUGE JAIL TERM, YOUR PROPERTY BECOMES THE STATES, OR THE FEDS AND NO PASSING GO. FORGET ABOUT COLLECTING $200, THEY WILL COLLECT FROM YOU> one way or another.
Steve should be more relaxed with people who are not legal minded...that's why I was there, but iso had other ideas.
Troy?
When did they get raided?
Does that explain the recent staff changes over there?
If our medical records are compromised, is there anything we should do?
Yeah, pit bulls can be a bit spooky. Especially when you don't know why they're barking at you.
I guess the whole "no drama rule" does not apply to S.S. sinse it's his site.
How does he stay out of prison? It does smell a bit phunny now that all these tiny bits are coming together. They get raided and he does'nt miss a beat. Any normal citizen would be gone for a decade if they were caught with the kind of shit going on there. Maybe thats what the volunteers are for. Pawns.
He's got himself a pretty sweet deal somehow or another. I'd like to think he's a good fella. That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
Maybe I should consider THCF? Or whats that other one called?