Printable View
I had 4 female plants that I grew inside until early June (Pacific NW). All plants identified as female when I put them outside. When they began budding recently, two of the plants became male. Do plants change sex to create a balance? I've always bought feminized plants before and this was the first time I used land race variety that was local. I know how to sex a plant and am SURE they were all female when planted outside. Is this possible?
You probably now have whats called a "hermie" - female male pistils and male nanners...
This can happen to a female due to light leaks at night or from stressful conditions...
You can still smoke this bud, just a great loss in potency. You can also try to pick the male nanners off if there aren't a lot.
:stoned:
Plants do not change sex to create a balance, lol. (nice try though) It would happen in our growrooms too, were that true.
Are other growers having the same problems with the strain?
When you say you put them outside...is there a street light or cars going by at night with their lights on? Growing outdoors, you still need to keep 'em away from unnatural light sources. Especially in flower. :thumbsup:
Any other signs of stress, (dropping leaves, stunting, excessive stretch, yellowing, splotching...) and finally...do the males still show calyx's and pistils?
unfortunately, hermaphrodites aren't uncommon with so-called 'feminized seeds', because of the 'hermie' genes introduced, by some popular breeding methods ... it is why I refuse to use them ... there is some argument that sativas, are hermaphroditic, by nature ... I'm so far, 'undecided', on that argument ... better luck, next time :smokin:
Perhaps you are refering to over-manipulation of the genes via chemical/metal/hormonal/steroidal methods, but I wholeheartedly disagree that all femmed seeds will likely produce hermies, or 'introduce' the hermie gene. Or maybe you were refering to repeated femming of femmed genetics, or perhaps the manipulation by those that care more for the quick buck, than genetic integrity in their product...Quote:
Originally Posted by the image reaper
I do agree though, that manipulation via hormones, steroids or any other caustic chemical or metal is something that can and will affect future genetics, as will the hard-core inbreeding sans male genetics. (back to back to back manipulations)
The self-preservation ability (gene) has been around for 10,000 years without our manipulation, and I've never grown a strain that couldn't be forced. Matter of fact...I truly doubt that you can even find a seed on today's market without it being, sometime in the recent past, the product of chemical genetic manipulation. (like anything produced by the Dutch from the 1970's to present, for instance) Going to be a tough road to hoe avoiding that issue in the future.
Monsanto and a few other gene-manipulating seed producers are experiencing that issue as we speak, as are the poor farmers that were growing local indigenous varities that are now all contaminated.
I do agree that repeated imporper femming (chemical/hormonal/steroidal) can bring that recessive gene to the foreground and imprint it there, but I've been femming my own seeds for quite a few years, and my strains are as stable as ever. I own more sativa dom. strains than you can count on both hands...none are more susceptible than any of my indica's.
I used to use the aspirin method, but it is a chemical stressor, so have taken a liking to the interrupted darkness method (light poisoning) to stress 'em.
My experienced guess is that 92.5% of hermie attributes are simply novice errors and blame deflection. Keeps the seed companies in business though. :jointsmile:
Dont worry man u aint the only one who has had this problem,,,,what i found is that there are just some strains that have hermmi tendancies,,, to avoid this issue stick with a farmiliar strain,,,run new strains thru there life cycle to see then clone off,,, as mentioned above light leaks will cause hermie tendancies ie: street lights, tree mounted cameras for hunting etc.....stress is much less of a problem,,, cannabis can endure extreme stressies as it is a weed,,, especially outdoors. one stress that garuntees hermmis is use of little n with alot of pk during the veg cycle