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I've read from a few sources that crushing Colchicine tablets or extracting the raw colchicine from the winter crocus bulbs and soaking your seeds in it is the most preferred and used method to feminize seeds....anyone have any input as to this method of feminization?
From what I've read.... Feminize seeds require female pollen to pollenate a female flower.. A female mother plant and her (female pollen) is the only way I know of to get feminize seeds.. :thumbsup:
that's a new one on me .I have never heard of female pollen ,because up until now ,it has been a long standing fact ,as i understood it, that female cannabis flowers do not produce pollen , otherwise , why are males needed?
Female plants do produce pollen... And as long as she has no hermi genes in her you will get all female pollen from her...You have to force her to do this of course. It takes what I like to call (end of the world juice). Basically you spray some stuff on her 2 weeks before and 2 weeks after she goes into flowering and it makes her think it's the end of the world. LOL
I know your laughing... It's true though.. Your favorite plants have a gene in them and when they think it's the end of the world or going into the ice-age as an example. They go into self reproduction mode.. They basically make sure they live forever even if there is no Male or Female close by...Females produce male pollen sacks with (female pollen) and males produce female flowers and also produce both female and male pollen just like it normally would.... Both plants self pollinate and wait for the ice to melt.
This method is call selfing in the breading world
I've have read of three things you can spray on the girls to make this work.
Two of them are chemicals you have to buy and the third one you make from home.
it seems to me that doing it that way requires a bit more time than the colchicine method provided that the colchicine method works.if it does work then you can operate off female clones. i'm no doubting what you say , but it seems to me like you're intentionally causing a hermaphroditic reaction to an external stimulus.While that might be a viable option , my original question still has not been definitively answered. But thank you
I'm not sure where you heard that colchcine is the most preferred method of feminizing seeds, I would guess that light poisoning (disrupting the plants dark period) is the most common and that might make it the most preferred. It's also the easiest for most hobbyists.
IMHO plants grown from colchcine treated seeds probably should not be consumed. Those plants are only good for seed prodution not consumption, and is why this method is used by some commercial seed producers. I'm honestly unsure what the pros or cons might be of clonning directly off a plant that's seeds were treated.
And yes, stressing the plant to make it turn hermphodite produces female pollen that can be used on other plants (how I learned) to produce femmed seeds. Plants grown from these seeds will not be prone to turning hermie any more then the original plants the seeds came from. In fact if you only have one plant to produce seeds and you herm it and self pollenate it, those seeds even will not be any worst then what it came from. All mj plants will herm for self presavation of the strain, some just do it easier then others.
WTF are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogznova
Female plants do not produce pollen. To produce pollen you need pollen sacs.. and if your plant has pollen sacs then it is either A. a Male or B. a hermaphrodite.
A female plant will make pollen if you let it flower until it dies in which case it makes a last ditch effort to survive by going hermie and self pollinating.
You can't change the biology of a plant no matter how you try to spin your story. Female plants DO NOT make pollen.
the pollen comes from the male part of the hermaphrodite plant. There is no female pollen. There is hermaphrodite pollen and Male pollen :)Quote:
Originally Posted by oldmac
Though yes, hermaphrodite pollen will make seeds likely to come out female; but they are also likely to become hermaphrodite also if introduced the seeds are introduced into similiar conditions during flowering that initiated hermaphroditism on the mother.
But it's important to always know in the back of your head that hermaphrodite pollen is hermaphrodite pollen and not 100% female; meaning your seeds stand risk of having both male and female parts.
[quote=daihashi]the pollen comes from the male part of the hermaphrodite plant. There is no female pollen. There is hermaphrodite pollen and Male pollen :)
You are absolutely right, I refered to it this way since it does not contain any male genes.
Though yes, hermaphrodite pollen will make seeds likely to come out female; but they are also likely to become hermaphrodite also if introduced the seeds are introduced into similiar conditions during flowering that initiated hermaphroditism on the mother.
Not likely to be female, assured to be. Unless there was some mutation earlier in the process. The fact that the prodigy will become hermie just like it's parent if subjected to the same stress, goes without saying...that's what I'd expect.
It's also important to remember, it is difficult to make generalizations about mj since there is wide variation in how the various strains react to various things, such as stress. Add to this the fact that almost all the mj you come in contact with today is a hybredized plant, crosses of various strains and is more likely to do strange "mutant" type things as opposed to landrace strains. You are also correct in your previous responce, you can't change the biology of the plant. If we could we really could exploit the plant. Thanks for keeping me honest, it is good to see you around.;)Quote:
But it's important to always know in the back of your head that hermaphrodite pollen is hermaphrodite pollen and not 100% female; meaning your seeds stand risk of having both male and female parts.
PS: sorry I can not figure out how to get all your quotes hi-lighted, I suck at this computer shit, I grow better then I can 'puter.