How NOT to experience Green Dragon :-(

Okay, I've been a big fan of Green Dragon since I found Master Wu's recipe here. This has been my method of choice since I hate smoking. I have scaled up the recipe to use 1 or 2 ounces of bud and have become very popular with my friends :-). It usually takes 2 to 3 ml of this recipe to get me into my happy place, until recently.

On the last batch everything was going as planned until I was ready to turn off the stove at the last step. Then the phone rang. Since the stove was off I thought it would be safe to leave it for awhile so I could talk. I got involved in a conversation, had a little green dragon, and forgot about the mixture in the kitchen. I fell asleep and woke up about 4 hours later and remembered what I had been doing. Everything was ok when I checked on it, but there was about 60% of the usual yield due to evaporation. So I poured it up and put it in the closet.

About 3 weeks later I ran out of my previous batch and decided to open the new batch. I prepared my usual 3 ml in a glass of wine, not thinking to test it's strength. I drank it and about 15 minutes later I had the "Oh, my God. What have I done?" sensation. The high was intense. My wife later told me that I was talking to my Dad who has been dead for 4 years.

Dudes, I have experienced a few other hallucinogens in my time, but they didn't hold a candle to this. I have never before experienced time warp with MJ, but I did this time. I was simultaneously living at several different points in my lifetime, starting at my early childhood. It was bizarre and impossible to describe. I had closed and open-eyed visuals. I would have enjoyed it if I hadn't been so freaked out.

So, the moral to this story is this: Always test a new batch to see how strong it is. Unless you just like having a panic attack :-)

DH

Man... i knew that green dragon experiences could be trippy, but not THIS much... now i must try this! :stoned::abduct:

Hi, I like to evaporate all the alcohol and use what's left in edibles, its basically a form of hash.

In January I put a 1/2oz into 6oz of Everclear. 5 months later I poured the liquid through a strainer and into a Pyrex (2cup) measuring cup, pulled a paper towel across the top to keep things from falling in, but also allowing the liquid access to air and set it on a shelf in my garage with a towel draped over it to block sun light.
10 days later the bottom of the measuring cup is covered with a nice sticky layer of resin/oil. After scraping it off the glass and rolling it into a ball I would guesstimate that it was around 2 grams.
1st consumption was oral, 2 pieces that were each a little smaller than an aspirin, mixed it with a joint and was on the couch for 7hrs and still foggy for a few hrs more. The remainder has been broken into small pieces and left in a dark place to dry out. Next attempt will be smoking in a pipe or mixed with weed. If I try this again I will use the best weed I can get and then blend in an 1/8 after running it through a kiefing screen to give a little more body to the final product.

Okay, I've tried it again and have determined that this batch IS much stronger than any I've made before, but I didn't get the same effects as the last time. Maybe more got metabolized the first time or something. Who knows?

I've never thought of concentrating green dragon to get resin before. Thanks guys, I'll make use of that information :-)

DH

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Originally Posted by dillhole

I've never thought of concentrating green dragon to get resin before. Thanks guys, I'll make use of that information :-)

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It is a very easy way to get a KILLER product from even low-quality weed... its called hash oil, and its one of the strongest things you can made from weed... i think only the legendary budder is stronger than hash oil...

Um, well shouldn't this batch be... forty percent stronger than usual?

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Originally Posted by grumio

Um, well shouldn't this batch be... forty percent stronger than usual?

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Yeah, it should be but it seems much stronger than that. Probably got a better extraction this time. I think that from now on I'll let the mixture set for awhile before straining it.

There was another difference with this batch too. I prepared the mj a few months ago. Meaning that I baked it in the oven and then put it away until I made the extract. Don't know if this made a difference though....

DH

Hard to say. I've been making it for over a year now, & my stuff is pretty consistent, but still, every batch is a little different, and even taking the same amount of the same batch can have quite different effects at different times.

I guess the amateur scientist thing to do would be to make another batch as normal & let it sit (but covered to minimize evaporation), then possibly add a bit more alcohol to make up the same volume as your usual yield, & see if that is noticeably stronger.

Better: finish the process, then put half the strained plant matter & half the tincture back in the cooling water bath overnight or whatever, covered, extra alc added if necessary to make the 1/2 batches of equal volume, & then compare 'em.

Please post results (good bad or indifferent) if you try this. I may try it myself next time I do a large batch.

What's your yield from an ounce? I would get (or at least be aiming for) 7 oz finished tincture.