From Joining the Military Thread: A Wide Discussion on American Military

coelho maybe you should sit this one out. this guy wants our opinions about joining the military, not your opinion on America fighting wars. we can debate that somewhere else....

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Originally Posted by higher4hockey

coelho maybe you should sit this one out. this guy wants our opinions about joining the military, not your opinion on America fighting wars. we can debate that somewhere else....

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I agree... in fact, i didnt even wished to start an ideological debate... besides my statement on being pacifist, i only meant to remind him of the dangers of going to war, that are real dangers no matter what be ones ideological view...
But handshake spent some of his time replying me, so i thought i owed him a response.

thanks for the response coelho. i agree with about the propaganda and the government taking our rights away here in america. but it is our job as americans to police our government. this is something that is not happening because people are zombies. it says in our decleration of independence:

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations,
pursuing invariably the same object,
evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism,
it is their right, it is their duty,
to throw off such government, and
to provide new guards for their future security."

so it is our duties as americans to throw off this government and put a new one in place. it will happen, it's only a matter of time.

that's something else though i suppose.

i can give reasons as to why america went to war, but it really doesn't matter.

i respect your opinion and i feel you do the same for mine (maybe?) and that's really all that matters.


-shake

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Originally Posted by JohnnyZ

I don't mean pulling the trigger, anyone would do that in a war situation. I mean are you capable of dealing with the fact that you just killed someone, are you willing to deal with the post traumatic stress or whatever the psychologists call it now. You just killed someone. Snuffed out a life. Sounds fine now but I bet things change when you see someone with their head blown off.

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In war you either shoot or get shot!
First come first served!

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Originally Posted by Gatekeeper777

In war you either shoot or get shot!
First come first served!

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i went to war, i didnt get shot. i didnt shoot anyone. :wtf:

It seems that there is no "on the fence" for this argument.. everyone has either been in the military or is adamantly opposed to the thought of war.

Strange.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyZ

It seems that there is no "on the fence" for this argument.. everyone has either been in the military or is adamantly opposed to the thought of war.

Strange.

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I think you're right ... it boils down to 'cowards, and the brave people that are responsible for protecting the cowards' ... :smokin:

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Originally Posted by the image reaper

I think you're right ... it boils down to 'cowards, and the brave people that are responsible for protecting the cowards' ... :smokin:

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Absolutely correct.

thanks, Steve :thumbsup: ... I know my opinion sounded extreme, and harsh, to some folks, but it's true ... every country, every society, every home, HAS to be protected, and defended ... there are evil people in this world, that WILL kill you and your family ... this means there are only 2 kinds of citizens ... the 'protected', and the 'protectors' ... if you're physically capable of 'protecting', but you 'won't', it's cowardly ... it means someone else, took your place in the gunsights ... simple logic ... :smokin:

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Originally Posted by the image reaper

I think you're right ... it boils down to 'cowards, and the brave people that are responsible for protecting the cowards' ... :smokin:

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I think this would ring true if the military was about protecting, and not carrying out the will of a war monger.