Why Are We Here??

I'm currently going to college, I have a girlfriend and a loving family. I'm not complaining about any of this, but I know that someday all of this won't be here for me. Someday I won't even be here!! It's hard to believe that we went through all these years of school, but for what reason? To maybe some day make a decent paycheck? I believe that money and wealth doesn't exist! I think that we are wasting all this time in schools, studying, and stressing ourselves out. Why can't we just be allowed to live everyday to the fullest? Not worry about a job or school? Just go out and enjoy what life has to offer. Spend time and make as many memories as we can with our loved ones while they are still around. I would like to spend my time with the ones that mean the most to me, I would like to do the things that make my happy. Travel the world (although that takes an incredible amount of money), smoke good "home grown" cannabis, not have to look in the newspaper and see all the depressing things going on in the world. There is more negative information in the paper now more than ever, and it just makes me sick when I can't go through the whole thing without seeing something in there about war, killings, accidents, or people that break the law! All government wants from us is to make the economy keep going, and pay taxes "on almost everything". I hope that I can find some people out there who truly do live their lives to the fullest, never regretting anything, and helping and respecting one another!
Peace and Love..

Sincerely,
Tyler G:thumbsup:

This slightly Utopian society you speak of may be possible in the future when computers are so powerful that they do all the crappy jobs like making tea for the fat cats and sweeping the streets. All food will be created in some kind of quantum food making device. Only once we are all free to do our own thing can we do it. Until then someone has to do the dishes.

NOT IT!! I'm not doing those damn dishes, thats why we have paper plates :)
So whats the weed going to be like then in the near future? Golf ball sized THC crystals on it? It could happen! haha

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Originally Posted by RoadRollin

It's hard to believe that we went through all these years of school, but for what reason? (...)
Why can't we just be allowed to live everyday to the fullest? Not worry about a job or school?

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I think its because:

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Originally Posted by RoadRollin

All government wants from us is to make the economy keep going, and pay taxes "on almost everything".

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So it brainwashes everybody since their birth, so everybody thinks that studying, having a nice job, making a decent paycheck, etc, is what life is about... and it does this brainwashing so nicely that most people thinks its even morally wrong to wish to enjoy the life instead wasting it for the benefit of the system.

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Originally Posted by bhouncy

This slightly Utopian society you speak of may be possible in the future when computers are so powerful that they do all the crappy jobs like making tea for the fat cats and sweeping the streets. All food will be created in some kind of quantum food making device. Only once we are all free to do our own thing can we do it. Until then someone has to do the dishes.

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Well... i think if this day come and peoples work werent required for the system to exist, i think the system will find a way to get rid of all the "superfluous" people... People costs a lot to the system, and the system only feeds them because it needs their work. But if one day the system were able to exist by itself, without peoples work, why should it keep them?

BTW, talking about this subjects is somewhat dangerous... we, the ones who realized this things are a threat to the system... and thats the reason why psychedelic drugs were forbidden after the 60-70s... because they allowed people to realize this things, and so to want to drop out from the system.

And if one day the system become powerful enough to be controlled by computers, there wont be weed (or any psychedelic/entheogen) anymore, but only drugs designed to make people more docile and complying to the system...

Life is tough because it's always been tough and always will be. No one said it was supposed to be easy, and if it was you'd bitch because it all seems so effortless and without purpose.

Everyone wants to say life is hard because of the government or corporations. Well it's not, it's always been hard. In fact in alot of ways it's easier because of these things. Think about it, you don't have to spend a whole day hunting, or months raising cattle, or spend a large amount of money, just to eat a burger anymore, because a corporation has decided to do all the legwork for you. You just have to show up cash in hand and say "burger me". Just because things don't always work out well for you doesn't make them bad. And just because it's wrong doesn't make it evil. Too many people make a huge leap, from witnessing the government or a corporation do something wrong, to declaring them evil.

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Originally Posted by RoadRollin

Why can't we just be allowed to live everyday to the fullest? Not worry about a job or school? Just go out and enjoy what life has to offer.

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you seem to forget that the natural state of man is poverty and misery. every advance we take for granted today has been paid for with the sweat of those who came before and the wealth you see heaped around you was earned by the effort of others. that job and that school are gifts you have been given by generations who spent their lives striving to create the very things you complain about today. you are certainly free to wallow in the muck and spend your days idly. you are free to starve and freeze and play while the rest of us earn our keep, but don't expect anyone else to support you.

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Originally Posted by Coelho

Well... i think if this day come and peoples work werent required for the system to exist, i think the system will find a way to get rid of all the "superfluous" people... People costs a lot to the system, and the system only feeds them because it needs their work. But if one day the system were able to exist by itself, without peoples work, why should it keep them?

BTW, talking about this subjects is somewhat dangerous... we, the ones who realized this things are a threat to the system... and thats the reason why psychedelic drugs were forbidden after the 60-70s... because they allowed people to realize this things, and so to want to drop out from the system.

And if one day the system become powerful enough to be controlled by computers, there wont be weed (or any psychedelic/entheogen) anymore, but only drugs designed to make people more docile and complying to the system...

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Resistance is futile.

You will be assimilated!

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In fact in alot of ways it's easier because of these things. Think about it, you don't have to spend a whole day hunting, or months raising cattle, or spend a large amount of money, just to eat a burger anymore, because a corporation has decided to do all the legwork for you.

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Keep in mind there are people who still hunt all day and others that raise cattle for months. They are probably wealthier then most. Do they hate their jobs? Hell no, they are living their dream, doing what they want to do. A quiet easy living, while providing for yourself. Loving life more than the person working at your crummy burger hut.

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you seem to forget that the natural state of man is poverty and misery. every advance we take for granted today has been paid for with the sweat of those who came before and the wealth you see heaped around you was earned by the effort of others. that job and that school are gifts you have been given by generations who spent their lives striving to create the very things you complain about today. you are certainly free to wallow in the muck and spend your days idly. you are free to starve and freeze and play while the rest of us earn our keep, but don't expect anyone else to support you.

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I agree with the the whole "people worked hard for what we see today" part. Even though the schools are a gift, yes they are, to us. We have the choice to attend or not. I have friends that have a 5 year head start on me, while I come out $40,000 in the hole. While they are making $8,000 more than my starting pay!! While they are cutting positions I am applying for and my buddy's put in the time and keeps his job!!

I'm not saying your wrong, but you can still provide for yourself and make more than enough money to live a great life and do things you want to do. There is nothing wrong with "dirty jobs" and being messy when you come home from work.

In the bible it says "Vanity of Vanities, All is Vanity." rings true more than often. It also says that a man should enjoy the fruits of his labor. If you come home from work everyday and say I hate my job, but won't quit it, wtf is up with that? (I am not a religious freak, I am in a senior rel. class and it is pretty tits.)

In the end, we don't have to go to school. I mean paying $25,000 a yr. @ a 4 yr. school that you will actually go to for 5 yrs. is a crock of shit! It is your choice. College students have their own opinion of things because we are the ones looking for jobs and there is nothing, college tuition cost more a year than we will even make a year.

I can related with roadrollin, things have changed alot and the new generation is questioning alot of things now and days. I agree with you roadrollin, everyine pushed me back to college and now when I graduate I will be the same job I did on my year off...and I will STILL be making more money than I could with my degree!

PS - I still think that a source of income a.k.a. a "job" is important. Everyone used to work for food and then they thought "I could make money off of this" and BANG!, money hungry mongers were born.

Stfu bitch.

My first reaction to this thread was that its such a ridiculous notion, we would all love to just do the good fun things in life but if the chit wasnt there how would you appreciate any of the good stuff.

life is full of ups and downs and i believe thats what makes it more interesting. if everything was constantly brilliant and you could easily do anything your heart desired then what would be the point, kids who have too many toys dont really play with many of them, people who are used to having everything can barely survive without it, but on the other hand kids who dont get everything learn to appreciate the things they do get and the things they all ready have, and people who are used to surviving on next to nothing enjoy it even more when they have enough money saved to go on a long awaited well deserved holiday for example. i just feel that the bad times make the good times even better. and besides without schooling and education what would be the point in travelling around the world you wouldnt have the skills and brains to do those things as they require planning and organisation, an ability to keep track of time and get to flights on time etc all the seeminly unimportant things that we actually do aquire from school by getting up every morning getting ready and getting to school on time making sure you have the right books with you for the right lessons to get from lesson to lesson on time, even socialisation begins at pre school for alot of children, school is more educational than just the in class stuff.

oh and a tip about the depressing stuff in the papers i agree with you its totally annoying but thats why i just dont read the news papers anymore, no one forces us to read about it just because its there.

as for time with those we love i'm sure many would agree they dont have enough time its all about trying to find a balance that works for you.

i think the only point to life is the here and now. why doesnt really matter much as even if i knew why would it make anything different? would it change my life or would the world just continue to be the same?