Describe your ideal nation

For me, it would be...

War would NEVER be an option for ANY reason, with the exception of repelling a direct invasion, or coming to the aid of a cause as clearly and concisely legitimate as World War II.

Political discourse would be open and honest, with politicians bluntly speaking their mind instead of reading out squeaky-clean speeches tailored so as not to possibly offend anyone who walks the earth.

Possession or use of any drug would be completely legal, as would the sale of pot and the psychedelics...sale of the really hard drugs would be the only punishable drug offence.

Education would be radically re-vamped...from a very early age, there would be a great focus on teaching free thought and deductive reasoning, teaching them how to examine every piece of evidence and not to get hoodwinked by flashy rhetoric, the fate of most people.

Sex would not have the dirty stigma that it currently does, but seen as a healthy expression of one's desires, whether those be to make love to one person they love or to go around fucking whomever they please...no matter.

Knowledge and investigation would be greatly valued and encouraged, with great focus on reading the great ideas of history's thinkers. We need to get general knowledge levels up again, after they've crumbled so badly over the last half century or so. The nation would not revolve around video games and vacuous entertainment...they've taken far too much of an intellectual toll.

Finally, people would truly be viewed as individuals rather than as pigeon-holed members of communities. Even in our officially post-discrimination society, it is detrimental that people are lumped together. One wouldn't be viewed, for example, as a gay black male, but simply as a person who happens to be gay, and black, and male, which no one would really think about. Officially celebrating the achievements of allegedly disadvantaged groups does more harm than good, lumping them together and lowering expectation.

You go.

You pretty much got the bases covered.

I would also change the pay/work system to balance out 3,000,000 ceo jobs and minimum wage jobs that are 10x more physically demanding.

Religion would not exist in the way it does now.

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Originally Posted by MaryJaneMonkey

You pretty much got the bases covered.

I would also change the pay/work system to balance out 3,000,000 ceo jobs and minimum wage jobs that are 10x more physically demanding.

Religion would not exist in the way it does now.

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Agreed absolutely on the religion thing. In our current society, it seems that people are either blindly devoted to an ecclesiastical absurdity, or they're a hardcore atheist who believes when you're dead, you're dust. That would need a huge re-vamp, so that people would be encouraged to find their own spirituality (with certain psychedelic drugs used as tools). Spirituality could have been such a beautiful and transcendental thing, but organized religion has been fucking it up for millenia. Especially the triad of Christianity, Judaism and Islam, the monotheistic perpetrators of a rigid moral code that has little to do with genuine ethics and more to do with useless asceticism.

The perfect world or government would be one where every one has a roof over their heads, food in their bellies, a job that pays a living wage so they can afford to buy an ounce of excellent smoke a week. What else could you ask for? :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by gypski

The perfect world or government would be one where every one has a roof over their heads, food in their bellies, a job that pays a living wage so they can afford to buy an ounce of excellent smoke a week. What else could you ask for? :jointsmile:

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I, sir, would emigrate to your country at once. Make it two ounces, though...something could come up. :jointsmile:

LII: Constitution

Minus the 16th amendment... and NO FEDERAL RESERVE. We'd use silver and gold like the Constitution says.

#1: Become a true democracy. Shut down the electoral college, absolutely no use for it in this day and age.
#2: Go back to the original constitution and bill of rights. Everything we needed was right there. That would mean shutting down all federal programs that are not authorized by the constitution. That would mean the only federal programs left would be National Defense and Foreign Policy. No FBI,DEA,FCC,SSI. Nothing. The states could take it over if they wanted too but don't have too.
#3: No attorneys are allowed to run for public office.lol I don't think that one would pass the constitutional test but its fun to dream.
#4; No natural plants or substances can be banned. It takes a pretty sick society to ban nature.lol

I would like to see an America with no federal government. Total and utter states rights. We gave limited powers to the federal government and look at where it's gotten us.

Every state should be it's own Republic. If California, Colorado, Nevada, etc want to legalize cannabis, or other illicit drugs, it should be their right. If the citizens in Louisiana, Texas, Alabama, etc decide weed is evil and choose make it illegal it's there prerogative as well.

If a state legislature, for example, votes to raise the minimum sentence for possession of 14 grams or more to a minimum sentence of 5 years in prison, so what. If you live there and smoking is that important, you can move. There would be 49 other nearby republics to immigrate to.

The states would be given control over their own independent militias but would be required to sign a non aggression pact stating, she shall never attack any sovereign state or nation without concurrence from 3/4 of the states, etc. Voting of issues like the one above would be left to each state. One vote each. The state legislatures would vote on the issue in their houses and by a simple majority would cast their vote for war or peace.

It is not perfect, but clearly our current administration's ideas are light years from perfect, so I don't think it matters much.

-Most localized government possible
-laws would be made at the local level

that's basically it. the laws would be made up by the people in local areas. if one area wants socialism, and another wants capitalism, so be it.

edit: i guess i'll also add what i would vote for in my local area

-legalized all drugs, prostitution, gambling
-no income tax
-privatized education
-privatized health care
-no central bank
-legalize competing currencies

how about one just like ours was about 200 years ago. liberty with very little govt. now that would be a perfect country.WHAT happened to us?