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SEEMS LIKE THE CLONES IVE BEEN GETTING WILT TURN YELLOW AND CURL FOR ABOUT 5 DAYS AFTER I PUT THE IN DIRT AND WATER THEM.
VEGGING UNDER A 600HPS ON A MOVER
USING BLACKGOLD COCO BLEND
GH NEUTS- 800PPM
@80f / 50%
SM90
SHOULD I START THEM WITH LESS LIGHT AND LESS PPM... OR FIND A NEW CLONE GUY MAYBE?
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Originally Posted by icbh707
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Are they clones that you have aquired from somebody that have a root system, or are they fresh clones you have made without roots?
If they are fresh clones, leave any ferts out.. pics needed tho.
Way too much light for rooting clones, and likely too early for nutes.
Are you using a humidity dome? If so...what's the temperature inside of it with the lights on?
Are you using a rooting hormone?
no no no, the clones have all been well rooted. i bought them and then once i put them in coco and hit them with juice they look like crap for about 5 days but then take off like nothing happened.
Maybe they just a bit of time to used to their new home and HPS light.
Dont over do it with the nutes they are still young plants.:)
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Originally Posted by icbh707
??? Sooo, they looked like shit, but have adjusted to the transplant shock and have taken-off...? I guss you lost me somewhere. What's the problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by icbh707
What kind of light were they kept under at your "clone guy's" place? Just curious, because if they were vegging under CFL's and you slam them under 600w, without acclimation, the clones will suffer heat and light stress. (on top of the transplant stress)
Mind you, this is my last guess. If you want a better guess, wait for others to respond, or fill out the troubleshooting form. (top of the Plant Problems section) It's there so those of us that want to help, don't have to play guessing games with your meds. :jointsmile:
H=Answer if you grow hydro or aerohydro
C=Answer if you grow coco coco
S=Answer if you grow traditional soil
L=Answer if you grow soilless other than coco (Promix, Hyponex, SunshineMix)
R=Answer if you grow in RockWool
T=Answer if you grow in HydroTon
D=Answer if you run any type of automatic drip system, including into soil or soilless
E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol!
E-indoor or outdoor indoor
E-soil, soilless, coco, aero, or hydroponic
E-specific medium blackgold coco blendCSL-Soil type/brand
HCL-Hydro/aero/soilless system type
SCL-Anything you have added to the soil
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH
E-Water source tap
E-Source water pH @7.0
HRT-Source water EC (if hydro)
E-Age of plant 6/7 days
E-Type of fertilizer
E-Rate of application (if hydro, this is your PPM number, preferably after each component is added) GH 800ppm
E-Lighting source and distance from plant 600hps at @2ft on a mover
E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period) @80
HD-Reservoir temperature
E-Air % Relative humidity 50%
E-Lighting schedule 24hrs
E-Type of ventilation your room has 4 in inline
TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution? no
i was thinking it might be an over lighting thing. yes they looked ok when i got them (well rooted) then i put them in coco blend and watered with 800ppm GH (recomended for veg by GH chart) and under a 600hps on a mover, then they got that pale, ribbed, curled overwatered look for about 5/6 days then they took off.
i guess i should go get a 250 or 400 just to use for the first few days then move to the 600. they are coming from cfl's under domes and i think just clonex. i normally loose a few right off the bat on the drive home, i think because of the shock of humidity drop but i dont think that has anything to do with whats going on after i transplant though.
When you get your clones from the clone guy, have they been hardened off atall or do they come straight out of the humidity dome?
If they do, you will be subjecting them to major shock which will either kill them or stunt them massivley. Builld or buy yourself a Humidity dome. Then, ease them into their new environment over the course of a week. Up until they come out of the dome, they are taking a lot of water in through their leaves and the roots are growing under the soil. You are asking your plant to switch the way it takes water up in an instant and the plant can't do that.
Even better for you would be to insist that the clones are hardened off before you purchase them.. 1 less worry for you ;)
Likely it's just the light shock, transplant shock, and the change of medium and nutrients.
I would:
Raise the lights to about 2 feet from tops, till they are acclimated. A week or so should do, then start incrementally lowering the lights to a 'normal' height.
Avoid foliar feeding/spraying with the lights on. Each droplet of water acts like a magnifying glass. (raise lights till droplets dry, if need be)
Avoid full-on fan blast. This will dry 'em out quickly, too. A gentle breeze to start, increasing as they progress.
I wouldn't give 'em additional nutes till they are acclimated, or showing signs of defeciency. (half strength for first week or two)
At least, this is what I'd do for a soil grow. Not sure about the nutes issue with coco. Shouldn't be much difference, but hopefully someone with more coco experience will be able to correct me if I'm wrong. :thumbsup: