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WTF was mccain talking about when he said that canada's response to obama's nafta policy was "we'll sell our oil to china"? i live in canada and i never heard anything remotely like that from any canadian in politics or coffee shops
i think obama took that debate but he was weak in his counter-offence to mccain...i think he was trying to take the high road...obama would have done a better job of that by apologizing to mccain for taking the low road on negative campaigning
That debate left a bad taste in my mouth. The word...dirty, comes to mind.
I gotta give it up to McCain though, in my opinion he came out looking much more like a leader. Maybe it was an off night for Obama? Though I think Obama nailed him in the past 2 debates.
W.e, I still don't think it's going to change much, I'm pretty damn sure the debate changed no one's minds, maybe only a few undecided voters here and there. I think Obama has this election in the bag.
This person exposed Obama's tax plan for what it really is and probably cost him this election. Way to go Joe!:thumbsup:
Have a good one!:s4:
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
yeah, that's much better than 'let them eat cake'
1st Debate: Obama bulldozed McCain.. Obama Victory
2nd Debate: WTF was this.. both sides sucked and the moderator was lame. It's like he didn't care to be there.
3rd Debate: McCain seriously laid down a can of whoop ass.. In addition to this he explained why Obama's plans wouldn't work.. compared them to his own; brought up Obama's record or lack there of.. compared it to his own. Got in some jabs in the process. I have to admit McCain was really on fire last night and Obama seemed to be off his game.
Quite a few times Obama looked like he was at a loss for words.
I don't know though if it was enough to turn the tide of the election. Currently it's a 3-5 point race. Which is VERY close.. I think over the course of the next few days it will really start to sink into people the things that were brought up.
In addition if McCain can keep this going for the next 3 weeks then he definitely stands a chance. This is the platform and aggressiveness he should've used after Obama won the Democratic Nomination.
Although I would've liked to see Bill Ayers brought up more.. through the use of a repetitive question to really drive the point home. I would've liked to seen infanticide brought up a little bit more aggressively, there were a few things I would've liked to seen on McCains side, but all in all I thought it was a good debate for him.
I liked the fact that he pointed out that Obama doesn't actually say or commit to anything in his words.. that they are just elegant and well spoken.
Also I felt that the Moderator this round asked some serious questions and wasn't as much of a pansey/pushover like the previous 2.
ps: Did anyone else think that McCain looked like he took some happy pills? LOL. He just looked so cheery and sassy. like a little school boy.
I think, overall, Obama came off better than McCain in the debate. It was still a bit of a disappointment though. McCain needed a decisive win to regain some ground, whereas Obama needed to be cautious and well reasoned in order to maintain the lead that he has without taking any real risks. Obama did just that, but no more - he was being cautious, too cautious for his supporters who watched in annoyance as he made no move for the jugular. It did seem obvious that Obama was debating McCain, whereas McCain time and again was debating a straw man - not actually responding to his opponent but arguing against his campaign's mischaracterizations of Obama's platform and positions. That came across in the debate pretty clearly, a CBS poll of undecided voters had Obama as the winner at 53% compared to McCain at 22%. CNN's poll was also for Obama at 58% to 31%. There was, however, no clear knockout moment. This leaves the McCain campaign with a couple weeks to try to swiftboat Obama - throw out charges and accusations hoping that there won't be enough time to debunk or answer the charges and hoping that they will be sensational enough to get significant coverage in the media - this is why we are seeing things like the silly Acorn tactic being used now. Their hope is that there won't be time for people to figure out who Acorn is, what Obama's involvement with them was, and what exactly they are accused of. Anyone remember Dukakis being slammed for being a "Card Carrying Member of the ACLU"?
I guess most people don't know how to read body language. As an avid poker player who makes a decent amount of money yearly on the game.. Obama appeared very frustrated throughout most of the debate.
A very frequently used quote...it's a myth though, she never said that. Or did not mean it in that sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by justanotherbozo
Anyway, though the debate did not tide well for Obama, I don't think it cost him the election as suggested...I think it was a big loss on his part, the most important debate as well. It may be more close now, but I still think Obama will pull ahead...we shall see though.
Agreed.. I don't think it lost him the election; but it put him into a position to where he *could* lose the election. Something that previously was a guaranteed win.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobthenuker
It will be tight/close from here on out. The truth is no one will know until election day.