E.U Lisbon Treaty Quotes (might be of interest to rest of world!)

Here are some quotes I've dug up on the E.U Lisbon treaty and the E.U in general, from the people who run it. They give us some insight on what their goals are and plans for the future of our continent.

To those who dont know, the 'Lisbon Treaty' was nearly forced onto the E.U, but they couldnt get around Ireland's constition. We had a vote on it and if we voted no, saving the rest of the E.U as we did.

So not only did they think it was fair for 4.5 million(pop. of Ire.) decide for 500+ million but they were pissed off about it! Our media in Ireland was just YES YES YES YES LET IT PASS YES! We voted no :rastasmoke: Irie-sh!

Here's the quotes-
â??Public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals that we dare not present to them directly â?¦ All the earlier proposals will be in the new text, but will be hidden and disguised in some way.â?
- Former French President V.Giscard Dâ??Estaing, who helped to draw up the EU Constitution which the French and Dutch rejected in their 2005 referendums and which is now being implemented through the Lisbon Treaty, Le Monde, 14 June 2007
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â??France was just ahead of all the other countries in voting No. It would happen in all Member States if they have a referendum. There is a cleavage between people and governments â?¦ There will be no Treaty if we had a referendum in France, which would again be followed by a referendum in the UK.â?
- French President Nicolas Sarkozy,at meeting of senior MEPs, EUobserver, 14 November 2007
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â??The difference between the original Constitution and the present Lisbon Treaty is one of approach, rather than content â?¦ The proposals in the original constitutional treaty are practically unchanged. They have simply been dispersed through the old treaties in the form of amendments. Why this subtle change? Above all, to head off any threat of referenda by avoiding any form of constitutional vocabulary â?¦ But lift the lid and look in the toolbox: all the same innovative and effective tools are there, just as they were carefully crafted by the European Convention.â?
- V.Giscard Dâ??Estaing, former French President and Chairman of the Convention which drew up the EU Constitution, The Independent, London, 30 October 2007
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â??They decided that the document should be unreadable. If it is unreadable, it is not constitutional, that was the sort of perception. Where they got this perception from is a mystery to me. In order to make our citizens happy, to produce a document that they will never understand! But, there is some truth [in it]. Because if this is the kind of document that the IGC will produce, any Prime Minister - imagine the UK Prime Minister - can go to the Commons and say â??Look, you see, itâ??s absolutely unreadable, itâ??s the typical Brussels treaty, nothing new, no need for a referendum.â?? Should you succeed in understanding it at first sight there might be some reason for a referendum, because it would mean that there is something new.â?
- Giuliano Amato, former Italian Prime Minister and Vice-Chairman of the Convention which drew up the EU Constitution, recorded by Open Europe, The Centre for European Reform, London, 12 July 2007
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â??Sometimes I like to compare the EU as a creation to the organisation of empires. We have the dimension of Empire but there is a great difference. Empires were usually made with force with a centre imposing diktat, a will on the others. Now what we have is the first non-imperial empire.â?
Commission President J-M Barroso, The Brussels Journal, 11 July 2007
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â??The aim of the Constitutional Treaty was to be more readable; the aim of this treaty is to be unreadable â?¦ The Constitution aimed to be clear, whereas this treaty had to be unclear. It is a success.
- Karel de Gucht, Belgian Foreign Minister, Flandreinfo, 23 June 2007
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â??The good thing about not calling it a Constltution is that no one can ask for a referendum on it.
- Giuliano Amato, speech at London School of Econmics, 21 February 2007

I wonder if these people talk like this when they talk to other international politicians? What plans could they have made?
Bilderberg DOES exist, it DOES go on every year.
We were just hoping it's innocent...even if it is completely illegal. But no, politicians are not like cannabis! :D :rastasmoke: