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This is great
Nobama wants a WINDFALL profit tax on big oil
give you a 1000 bucks...... I could use it Ill tell ya, BUT
Ask your MOM and DAD, look at you prospectus, statement, whatever......
If you have a 401k
YOU ARE BIG OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so Nobama wants to take money from you,to give to you.....
He is so stupid
discuss you are big oil, and if you were smart you would have bought oil low and sold it high.....ahhh the American Dream:thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Billionfold
I am happy to interject here to help you understand what his post is about.
Barak Insane Osama, wants to TAKE money from the demonized "BIG OIL" and REDISTRIBUTE that wealth to the "less fortunate". You know, socialism, which apparently is one of the key points of liberalism today.
You know, as if there is only a certain amount of money available to be had in the world, and the BIG OIL DEMONS have taken it all. Because in Obama land that means there is no money left for the "poor".
Never mind that they earn that money, never mind that they employ Americans, never mind that Americans are shareholders in those "BIG OIL" companies and that would in turn hurt whom? NOT BIG OIL, they will just turn around and share that burden with all of us. And I am 99% sure that he is not planning on taking those "windfall" profits and investing in future energy (as the oil companies have and do since that is there business,) but he would instead hand the money out to people that will gladly take it and blow it on plasma t.v.s, and paps blue ribbon or whatever.
As far as profit margins are concerned "THE EVIL BIG OIL" is far from the top of that list. They have to invest in themselves, but most kool aid drinking libs love the idea of "sticking it to the man" and blindly believe what they are told to believe, hence the popularity of this horrible idea he has put forth. He knows this and this is nothing more than an attempt to hit people on an emotional level during hard economic times. Kool aid drinkers are real happy to think they are going to take money from THE EVIL BIG OIL, and of course are convinced that they are entitled to it. This also plays on the "entitlement mentality" that is so prevalent within the liberal left.
Here are some other industries that should worry about their future as well if we are going to start taking money businesses earn when we demonize them or "feel" (since that's what all good liberal policies are based on) have EARNED too much.
BIG DAIRY
BIG COFFEE
BIG PAPER
ECT...
ECT.....
I believe that was along the lines of the point he was trying to make.:thumbsup:
So if you are ready for "change", then vote for Obama, if you are ready to live in a country that demonizes success, individuality, independant thought, then he's your man.:D
Hey Bill,
sure I remeber you.....
what my post was about.
Liberals, and the liberal left media has villified BIG OIL. When you get right down to it. Any person that owns stock by way of thier 401K witch most people have. They are big oil. They are the share holder that the company is trying to make a profit for.
I know socialist wont like this....
The only job of a publicly traded company is to make a profit for its share holders.
Seams BIG OIL is doing a damn good job......:thumbsup:
how did big oil do in the 80s?
I like how you list no references or sources to back yourself up, while presenting an extremely biased viewpoint. I'm sure you feel right at home on the Internet. But really, not even so much as a link to a blog? You can do better.
So is the premise of this thread that everybody, or even most, who recieve the $1000 tax rebate are in fact shareholders in oil companies? And I suppose the taxes based on profit limits will result in a stock dip so steep that it will result in a whole thousand dollar loss for each shareholder?
I don't buy any of this thread, but didn't George Bush basically do the same thing a few months ago? Sent about $200-$600 to everybody as an "economic stimulus package", which every economist later agreed did NOTHING to stimulate the economy, while wasting millions in public money.
This particular plan of Obama's will do very little if anything, but you'd have to be a fool to think the Republican economic policies have been any wiser. McSame was all ready to jump on the 3-month gas-tax break that would amount to a mammoth $34 savings for the average American. Nothing but a little (illusionary) gift to buy some votes, while not actually accomplishing anything to fix a broken economy.
Democrat or Republican, Americans still seem bent on voting for the safe 'ol candidates that will tweak the status quo while the nation circles the drain. Of course you get anybody with some fiscal responsibility and actual respect for the constitution (aka, Ron Paul), and joe-schmo voter thinks you're an "extremist" for actually taking the action necessary to bring about the real change that they keep demanding but refuse to vote for.
Sorry, I meant to quote the OP, not you. Hell, I agree with you.Quote:
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I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that you meant to knock me on those posts?
I am wondering what exactly you want "sources" for? My post was my opinion, so the source is me. Feel free to pick out exactly what you want a "source" for though if you want.
From what I can tell, everyone here has a "biased" view, based on your personal political beliefs. So if my belief that taking money from people that EARNED IT TO BEGIN WITH and giving to people that DID NOTHING TO EARN IT, is "biased" then so be it. Why don't you start sending me half of all the money you earn if you want to! LMFAO!:thumbsup:
I don't think that's the premise here, at least that's not what I took from it, and that's not at all what I was trying to argue. I am simply pointing out that "Big OL' MEan OIL" does have shareholders, and if the gov starts to just take money they make, then yes, that will have a direct and significant impact on all shareholders, shareholders being, Americans that work for the companies, that invest in the companies, and Americans that purchase their goods and services.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey
Big Oil is not a person, (not speaking to you Gandalf, this is more for everyone else that likely do not comprehend this concept.) If you take the profits from a corporation or company, then they will simply make up for those lost profits by passing on the "costs" to us. So hello! If you get a grand from the gov that they took from "Big Oil, or Big Rice, or Big Paper, or Big Coffee, then these companies will simply make up for the difference by charging more for their goods. So yeah, you may want to hang onto that "Big Oil" money if you get it folks, you'll need it to buy your gas @ 9.00 a gallon.
Big difference here, the money Bush sent to people was their money to begin with! The money wasn't stolen from a company that earned it and then given to people that had nothing to do with earning it. The money Bush gave out was money that Americans had given to the federal gov in the form of income taxes. Hence, "income tax rebate". Now whether or not it helped the economy, who knows? That's debatable. But fact is that money belonged to the people to begin with!Quote:
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Dead on!!!!! couldn't have said it better myself:stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH