God's name was orginaly ALLAH?!!!
Allah-God-YahwehIs Allah the name of the true God?
By William Qarraa
I received some time ago several letters asking about the name of God. "Is Allah the name of God or the name of a god/demon?" Several people thought that the name of Allah, linked to Islam, is the God of Islam or the bad god.
My answer was:
1- The Name of Allah is the name of the true God:
a- The Moslems worship the true God who has been the God of the Ancient and New Testament. They confess that "in order to be a good Moslem, you have to be a good Jew and a good Christian", a statement of confessing to the truth of the other two religions.
b- The name of Allah was taking by the Moslems from the Christians who existed five centuries before the arrival of Islam. Arabs were mentioned in the book of Acts at the time of the Pentecost.
c- The existence of bad elements in any country or religion does not make that religion bad and hence does not make all moslems bad or all jews or chritians bad. People become bad when they do not follow the teaching of their religion.
d- Beauty and Truth is One. All religions reflect the beauty of God in a certain way and so does the Islam.
e- Moslems teach us that there are 99 names for Allah and that the 100th name is hidden. These names are adjectives of God and do not tell us the true entity of God.The 100th name may be the one that really is the name of God.
2- The Name of Allah is the same as the name of Elohim:
a- In the Semetic languages Vowels do not count. Consonants form the words. These consonants are not written because they are not important and they do make the word sick and ill. So if we look at the name of Allah and the name of Elohim we will find the following:
Allah = L + H, Elohim = L+H+M (we will ignore the M and come back to it later).
b- In the Semetic languages, word roots are formed of three letters. It was found later on that these three letters were formed of two two-letter verbs. A complete study was made by several scholars among which is Fr. Marmarji S.J. in Lebanon.
c- L+H= LH (pronounced 'lahh') means "to him". God, Allah or Yahweh is not the name of God, Allah and Yahweh. God is not the name. He exists and no one knows his name. If we know His name then we will possess Him and understand Him, then He is not God the Omnopotents the Existant etc..
d- So instead we say "to Him" be the glory. "To Him" be the praise Look at the book of Revelation 5:13: Blessing and honor and glory and power be unto Him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. It is safe to say that instead of saying God you can say "To Him"
e- Till our present day, Christians and Moslems replace the name of God with "Taala" (pronounced 'Tah-ah-lah') the excelsior, the most high.
3- Moses and the Name of Yahweh
a- Moses did not know the name of God even several hundred years after Abraham who is supposed to have known God and became the friend of God. Moses is from the descendents of Abraham, he is the leader and yet he did not know Him. The story is known where Moses says what is your name so I may tell them. God said "Yehyeh Asher Yehyeh" that means be who it be. He may have said I be who I am, or it is not your business the know my name. God definitely did not reveal his name Moses. Moses used the verb to be in order to denote God, hence the word "existent" came to play a role. You have to know that the word of God when uttered does not go out in vain, it has to produce something. The "existent" has a triple chronological dimention in the semetic language. It means he who was, he who is and he who will be.Tevelation again mentions these three dimentions.
b- The name got deformed adonai
4-Is it possible to know the name of God?
Knowing a name or naming something means you are in command.
Adam names of all the animals (Gen 2:19)because God gave him power over all of them (Gen. 1:26). The father always gives the name to his sons indicating the power over children. God changes the names of Abraham and Sarah. He tells him to call his son Isaac.
Remember also: "You are my son, today I have called you.". When the name of the Lord is called. You are calling the person of the Lord.
That's why it is impossible for man to grasp God and understand Him. He is out of our reach. Knowing His real name is grasping Him.
On the other hand, we use the names God, Theos, Allah, Elohim to denote an entity that is ' "To Him" be the glory'. A name is not enough to denote His power and glory etc..
5- Elohim
Elohim is the Hebrew name for Allah with the exception that is has an "M" at the end. Plural could indicate one of the following:
a- plural of respect. Addressing a person with plural denotes respect. A king, a prince, a president are all addressed in president. You find that in Arabic, French, Italian etc.. (It is self explanatory).
b- plural of plurality of Gods despite the belief in one God, the people of Israel continued to worship several gods. They worshiped the golden calf (Exodus 32:4), the Baal and Ashtaroth (Judges 2:13) others "the foolish" said there is no God. That's why they were worshiping the gods, the "elohim" not the "eloh". It is amazing how the sons of Abraham who is the worshiper of the One God have stayed polytheist for a long time.
Finally, the name of the one and only God, became the name of the plural of gods. Theologically now: "Elohim" is the name of the Only and One God.
c- Plurality of the persons (out of revelation)The Lord appeared in the form of three men and Abram addressed them as a singular.(Gen 18). We know now that God is one in three persons through the revelation of Jesus Christ the Son of God. Since the Bible is a revelation, then we have the knowledge of the person of God even through the layers of the Old Testament.
Conclusion
Our conflict on what God, Allah, Yahweh should be called in a futile conflict that revolves around something superficial that would never define the name of God which is the nature of God.
No language can say that they have the true name of the Entity that created the world. All what we can do is say "To Him" be the glory. Amen
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i did my research on this and alot of things,i'm finding out about lost books and lost ways of the bible,this is interesting if you'be known this OR know if this is confirmed please tell me
God's name was orginaly ALLAH?!!!
c- The existence of bad elements in any country or religion does not make that religion bad and hence does not make all moslems bad or all jews or chritians bad. People become bad when they do not follow the teaching of their religion.
I dont agree with this. It is very obvious that people do bad things when they DO follow there religions "teachings". The existence of bad elements in any religion DOES make it bad. People should look for guidance and peace within themselves not in an ancient scripture written thousands of years ago. Times have changed, people need to change with them.
God's name was orginaly ALLAH?!!!
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c- The existence of bad elements in any country or religion does not make that religion bad and hence does not make all moslems bad or all jews or chritians bad. People become bad when they do not follow the teaching of their religion.
I dont agree with this. It is very obvious that people do bad things when they DO follow there religions "teachings". The existence of bad elements in any religion DOES make it bad. People should look for guidance and peace within themselves not in an ancient scripture written thousands of years ago. Times have changed, people need to change with them.
Well... if "The existence of bad elements in any religion DOES make it bad", then there is not any good religion, cause every religion has at least one member of it which is bad.
Its the same of saying that all stoners are bad, only because there are some few ones who are.
You cant judge a group of people based in only a few members of it.
God's name was orginaly ALLAH?!!!
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Well... if "The existence of bad elements in any religion DOES make it bad", then there is not any good religion, cause every religion has at least one member of it which is bad.
Its the same of saying that all stoners are bad, only because there are some few ones who are.
You cant judge a group of people based in only a few members of it.
What I meant is that every religion has a bad element(s) in it, I wasn't talking about actual members of said religion. These "elements" I speak of are the moral codes and conducts presented by religions. And yes, I do believe that all religions in one form or another are "bad". I know that judging a group because of an individuals actions is ignorant and wrong. Judging that ALL religions are inherently wrong is a totally different thing.
God's name was orginaly ALLAH?!!!
Every relgion has bad aspects right but Islam does hold alot of truth about YHWH.Such has I believe it is true that we cannot see,touch,or be near God I truely believe that.The problem with Islam is the suicide killings and the extreme violance but look then agian look at the Roman Catholic sex scandels or from my Church the Baptist changing there minds about alot of things that makes no sence like for example first the rapture according to them was soppose to occur before the trib. now they are saying after.
Interesting fact He siad it himself 'I am has I am'.
God's name was orginaly ALLAH?!!!
"God" does not have a name... imo
names are words and words are nothing more than vibrating waves interpreted and used to represent an idea or object to the human mind.
each people group has given a representative set of vibrational patterns (aka a word like Jehovah, Allah, Krishna, etc) to represent their own idea of god. none are the TRUE name of god, but only true to the group whose minds associate that particular vibrational pattern with the CONCEPT of god. there cannot be a true name of god, only a first chronologically speaking in relation to the first spoken language and attempt to "name god."
what does your name tell about you? nothing at all really... some names might tie you to a nationality or ethnicity (Muhamed or Patrick O'Flannigan) but does that describe anything about WHO you are? no... who you are cannot be encapsulated in a single word like a name normally is. I am Joe. The word "Joe" cannot describe a complex conscious being. does your name give me a clear picture of who you are?
what purpose would a name for god serve? nobody would have been around to give that name so it would have to be a name that the creator chose personally. is any finite human language even capable of beginning to describe the creator of all?
it is the essence of god that matters, no matter what you call our supreme creator and source of all that is and is not. names are semantics and it is such semantics that divide humanities effort to find the answers to the mysteries of this physical existence...
who am i? what is my purpose?
who is "god"?
God's name was orginaly ALLAH?!!!
God's name was orginaly ALLAH?!!!
That makes very little sense, seeing that the author of the article talks about Semetic languages in the article, but gives the English words and translations of the words in question. The most widely used Semetic languages were Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew, and Phoenician. The article is merely semantics, and poorly argued at that. The English language is only about 1,000 years old, which would make it's interpretations of biblical words meaningless in the context of the argument.
Sorry to take the wind out of your sails, but 'Allah' is merely the Arabic version of Allahu, which translates into "supreme being." "Allah" is just the Arabic/Islamic translation for the word for "God."
God's name was orginaly ALLAH?!!!
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Allah-God-YahwehIs Allah the name of the true God?
By William Qarraa
I received some time ago several letters asking about the name of God. "Is Allah the name of God or the name of a god/demon?" Several people thought that the name of Allah, linked to Islam, is the God of Islam or the bad god.
My answer was:
1- The Name of Allah is the name of the true God:
a- The Moslems worship the true God who has been the God of the Ancient and New Testament. They confess that "in order to be a good Moslem, you have to be a good Jew and a good Christian", a statement of confessing to the truth of the other two religions.
b- The name of Allah was taking by the Moslems from the Christians who existed five centuries before the arrival of Islam. Arabs were mentioned in the book of Acts at the time of the Pentecost.
c- The existence of bad elements in any country or religion does not make that religion bad and hence does not make all moslems bad or all jews or chritians bad. People become bad when they do not follow the teaching of their religion.
d- Beauty and Truth is One. All religions reflect the beauty of God in a certain way and so does the Islam.
e- Moslems teach us that there are 99 names for Allah and that the 100th name is hidden. These names are adjectives of God and do not tell us the true entity of God.The 100th name may be the one that really is the name of God.
2- The Name of Allah is the same as the name of Elohim:
a- In the Semetic languages Vowels do not count. Consonants form the words. These consonants are not written because they are not important and they do make the word sick and ill. So if we look at the name of Allah and the name of Elohim we will find the following:
Allah = L + H, Elohim = L+H+M (we will ignore the M and come back to it later).
b- In the Semetic languages, word roots are formed of three letters. It was found later on that these three letters were formed of two two-letter verbs. A complete study was made by several scholars among which is Fr. Marmarji S.J. in Lebanon.
c- L+H= LH (pronounced 'lahh') means "to him". God, Allah or Yahweh is not the name of God, Allah and Yahweh. God is not the name. He exists and no one knows his name. If we know His name then we will possess Him and understand Him, then He is not God the Omnopotents the Existant etc..
d- So instead we say "to Him" be the glory. "To Him" be the praise Look at the book of Revelation 5:13: Blessing and honor and glory and power be unto Him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. It is safe to say that instead of saying God you can say "To Him"
e- Till our present day, Christians and Moslems replace the name of God with "Taala" (pronounced 'Tah-ah-lah') the excelsior, the most high.
3- Moses and the Name of Yahweh
a- Moses did not know the name of God even several hundred years after Abraham who is supposed to have known God and became the friend of God. Moses is from the descendents of Abraham, he is the leader and yet he did not know Him. The story is known where Moses says what is your name so I may tell them. God said "Yehyeh Asher Yehyeh" that means be who it be. He may have said I be who I am, or it is not your business the know my name. God definitely did not reveal his name Moses. Moses used the verb to be in order to denote God, hence the word "existent" came to play a role. You have to know that the word of God when uttered does not go out in vain, it has to produce something. The "existent" has a triple chronological dimention in the semetic language. It means he who was, he who is and he who will be.Tevelation again mentions these three dimentions.
b- The name got deformed adonai
4-Is it possible to know the name of God?
Knowing a name or naming something means you are in command.
Adam names of all the animals (Gen 2:19)because God gave him power over all of them (Gen. 1:26). The father always gives the name to his sons indicating the power over children. God changes the names of Abraham and Sarah. He tells him to call his son Isaac.
Remember also: "You are my son, today I have called you.". When the name of the Lord is called. You are calling the person of the Lord.
That's why it is impossible for man to grasp God and understand Him. He is out of our reach. Knowing His real name is grasping Him.
On the other hand, we use the names God, Theos, Allah, Elohim to denote an entity that is ' "To Him" be the glory'. A name is not enough to denote His power and glory etc..
5- Elohim
Elohim is the Hebrew name for Allah with the exception that is has an "M" at the end. Plural could indicate one of the following:
a- plural of respect. Addressing a person with plural denotes respect. A king, a prince, a president are all addressed in president. You find that in Arabic, French, Italian etc.. (It is self explanatory).
b- plural of plurality of Gods despite the belief in one God, the people of Israel continued to worship several gods. They worshiped the golden calf (Exodus 32:4), the Baal and Ashtaroth (Judges 2:13) others "the foolish" said there is no God. That's why they were worshiping the gods, the "elohim" not the "eloh". It is amazing how the sons of Abraham who is the worshiper of the One God have stayed polytheist for a long time.
Finally, the name of the one and only God, became the name of the plural of gods. Theologically now: "Elohim" is the name of the Only and One God.
c- Plurality of the persons (out of revelation)The Lord appeared in the form of three men and Abram addressed them as a singular.(Gen 18). We know now that God is one in three persons through the revelation of Jesus Christ the Son of God. Since the Bible is a revelation, then we have the knowledge of the person of God even through the layers of the Old Testament.
Conclusion
Our conflict on what God, Allah, Yahweh should be called in a futile conflict that revolves around something superficial that would never define the name of God which is the nature of God.
No language can say that they have the true name of the Entity that created the world. All what we can do is say "To Him" be the glory. Amen
Back to The original name for GOD Almighty was "Allah".
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i did my research on this and alot of things,i'm finding out about lost books and lost ways of the bible,this is interesting if you'be known this OR know if this is confirmed please tell me
greetings my friend:in my personal spiritual journey of some 40 years,i have learned, and also had to unlearn many things. and what I have learned have come straight from HIM as far as the name of GOD goes,allah is not a name,it means GOD.we could go on for hours about the different theroys on his name but we really have no right to say his name .I mean who are we but his creation.but really to give him a name is to give him limitation, and he has no limit...here something that was revealed to me..ALIF LAM MEEM which is found in the quran. and according to islam no one no knows what those letters mean..to me it was revealed that this is GOD'S one of his names, no meaning no limits...same thing for YHVH or YHWH,
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