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(Coming from a Christian standpoint)I was thinking since there are ghosts that maybe when you die and you have not accepted God or Christ that you may not go to a firery Hell but instead your spirit is left on this earth where you cannot communicate with anyone or do anything and you are just a lonely and miserable soul. Your just here and you literally cant do anything. That would suck so bad!
What do you guys think?
Good question, which I think might apply to the dead who have been unsaved up until the final judgment. But, during the final judgment as depicted in Revelation 20:11-15, Hell (or Hades) is described as a "lake of fire" reserved for Lucifer, his minions, and those who have consistently denied the Father.
I do, on the other hand, wonder if those who have died up until now (saved and unsaved) wander the earth awaiting the final judgment. Christ said He would be going to prepare the new Jerusalem (in Heaven) for the believers, which makes me think that only a select few old saints are actually in Heaven right now. The rest of the meek shall inherit the earth after the new Jerusalem descends as the capital of the earth. If this is true, then either the dead are in a state of suspended animation, are merely sleeping (as described in Job 14:12 and John 11:11-13), or their souls are left to wander the earth until the rapture or final judgment.
Either way, it's comforting to know that we won't just cease to exist after we die, but rather will still have something to look forward to, or something to regret for all eternity.
You'd get used to it. You'd be able to hang out with other dead freethinkers like yourself, wouldn't have to pay taxes, no more sickness, slaving at a job, or going through any other troubles at all. You could read, go to concerts for free, smoke free dope anywhere in the world, peek into ladie's dressing rooms in stores, and just laugh all the time. It sounds like a better deal than growing wings and flying around playing that stupid harp all day. If I had my choice, I'd take "hell" anytime - whatever it's like. Much cooler, IMHO. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by zeitgeist
I find it very discomforting to think that death is only the beginning. I look to death as falling asleep. When you are completely, utterly deep asleep, you do not think, feel or have any state of consciousness (aside from dreams, but that is a different topic). I believe this is what death will bring: a comforting, slow, drifting return into the dimension of sleep where all feeling and consciousness simply has no place. This separate dimension is where all human minds exist and are created, and it is where our minds reside while we sleep. When we die our minds will slip back into this other dimension, bringing us a final rest from the toils of this 3 dimensional existence.
I think; live free, die well; after that, you play it by earQuote:
Originally Posted by zeitgeist
Almost sounds like heaven to me.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
Your theories are interesting but they will receive much opposition in the future. I don't believe much of anything I read but this is interesting stuff, nonetheless.
I just thought I would point out it was Ronald Reagan who stated the "alien threat" back in the 1980s. The better you know, the better we know.
the concept of a system of existence that includes permanent separation from god with any of his creation (including humans) is beyond my comprehension.
in the beginning was god. all else from there was created and designed by god. god had COMPLETE creative control on how the system would work. why would god choose a system that according to traditional christian belief means that probably more than half of created "souls" will be permanently separated from their creator (all muslims, buddhists, hindus, gnostics, etc from all time)?
why wouldn't there be a simple fail-safe like the idea of reincarnation which still preserves free-will by the possibility of endless cycles for those who will never choose to reconnect with the creator, while not allowing anyone to be "lost?" that would maintain free-will as much or more than a system that sets free-will as "either love me(god) or burn and suffer forever!" i don't understand (though i respect) how anyone can see that as free-will.
somehow a system of 100% success sounds more like the plan of a god that is LOVE. it would not have to compromise the HOLINESS of god at all either since there would still always be temporary separation until the soul came to a "readied" place.
daal.. with all respect i ask how it is that you believe that there are no "interpretations" when the christian faith is split into numerous sects over such "interpretations" (pre-tribulation, post-tribulation, speaking in tongues as sole proof of baptism of the holy spirit and salvation, etc)?
as far as the meaning of biblical symbols, each generation sees them and their fulfillment in the circumstances of their era. that is why christians since the time of the apostles have believed that "we are living in the end times."
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Daal please show me where in the scriptures it says one must be an Israelite to be with God in heaven?