Dems want Iraqis to spend oil surplus
We've done enough for Iraq. Either they start paying for things themselves, or we should take their oil. If it were up to me, I'd take the oil as compensation for what we've given in terms of lives and expenses. We've spent 500 billion dollars over there, and they've got 30 billion sitting in U.S. banks. Some of our expenses are ridiculous, such as the military paying the full open market prices of 3.23 a gallon, 153 million a month, for fuel in Iraq. Plus, they're having a record year in oil sales with profits over 100 billion. This is absolutely fucking crazy. P.S., not only democrats want them to start footing some of the bill, at least for their own country's reconstruction. It would be incredibly, unbelievably stupid of us to continue dealing with them in the fashion that they have become accustomed to.
Many people say that the war was "for the Oil". Well, were still waiting.
Dems want Iraqis to spend oil surplus
By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer 12 minutes ago
Democrats plan to push legislation this spring that would force the Iraqi government to spend its own surplus in oil revenues to rebuild the country, sparing U.S. dollars.
The legislation follows a recommendation by Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, that the Bush administration halt troop withdrawals in July. Petraeus on Wednesday was wrapping up two days of congressional testimony in which he has said security gains in the war zone are too fragile to promise further drawdowns.
Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said pausing troop reductions would signal to the Iraqis that the United States was committed to the war indefinitely.
"Rather, we need to put continuous and increasing pressure on the Iraqis to settle their political differences, to pay for their own reconstruction with their oil windfalls, and to take the lead in conducting military operations," said Levin, D-Mich.
Iraq has about $30 billion in surplus funds stored in U.S. banks, according to Levin.
Iraq is looking at a potential boon in oil revenue this year, possibly as much as $100 billion in 2007 and 2008. Meanwhile, the U.S. military is having to buy its fuel on the open market, paying on average $3.23 a gallon and spending some $153 million a month in Iraq on fuel alone.
While Iraq pays for fuel for its own troops, it has relied heavily on U.S. dollars to provide people with basic services, including more than $45 billion for reconstruction.
Lacking the votes to order troops home by a certain date, Democrats see fencing off reconstruction money as an alternative to challenging the Bush administration's Iraq policies. And several Republicans have signaled their concerns about burgeoning Iraqi oil revenues at a time when the war is growing increasingly costly.
"Isn't it time for the Iraqis to start bearing more of those expenses, particularly in light of the windfall in revenues due to the high price of oil?" said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine.
Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, agreed but said it would take time.
"I think what we've got to focus on in the period ahead is this kind of transitioning," Crocker said. "And it'll be, like everything else in Iraq, a complex process."
Levin said he expects the legislation to be proposed as part of this year's war spending bill or the 2009 defense authorization bill.In his testimony on Tuesday, Petraeus said he recommended to President Bush that the U.S. complete, by the end of July, the withdrawal of the 20,000 extra troops.
Beyond that, the general proposed a 45-day period of "consolidation and evaluation," to be followed by an indefinite period of assessment before he would recommend any further pullouts.
Bush is expected to embrace Petraeus' plan, which reflects a conservative approach that leaves open the possibility that roughly 140,000 U.S. troops could remain in Iraq when the president leaves office next year.
On Wednesday, Bush planned a breakfast meeting with Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Later in the day, he was to meet with Republican and Democratic leaders from the House and Senate.
On Thursday, Bush will make a speech about the war and his decision about troop levels.
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Dems want Iraqis to spend oil surplus
If someone came to my country without being asked and started blowing up shit and wrecking the infrastructure I would be reluctant to give them anything but a bullet.
America created the mess so why shouldn't they fix it?
Dems want Iraqis to spend oil surplus
First off, the Shi-ites and Kurds hold the majority in their government.....the same two groups that wanted us to invade and liberate.
Next, I also think we should stay till they're stable.:D
Have a good one!:s4:
Dems want Iraqis to spend oil surplus
Pyscho's right. The majority of the people in Iraq praised us for comming in because essentially it was a genocide of the shi'it's and Kurds. Though they never asked us to come in and liberate them we did anyway. Unfortunately, however, though comming in destoryed a terrible man in power and saved millions of lives it made the country worse because now theres these stupid terrorists that hate the westernized culture and despise our arrival. For this reason now most everyone wants us out. Not because Iraq was fine and dandy until we showed up. It was a fucked up country prior to the war and is an even more fucked up country now. I just can't stand these stupid people who sit here and say everyone in Iraq or Afganistan hate us being there. No! The majority loves us but they just want us out because the terrorist organizations running the joint are giving them hell for liking the Americans.
Dems want Iraqis to spend oil surplus
What a dumb move.
We spend American dollar = American jobs. We don't get shit if we allow Iraqis to reconstruct their own country. Then the Iraqi war would be the equilvelent of throwing down a trillion or two down the toilet.
Dems want Iraqis to spend oil surplus
Weve done enough for Iraq .....that has to be the most vile disgusting understatement of the year....you kill hundreds of thousands of people....displace 2.5 mllion people...destroy the economy,the roads,the buildings and you have the balls to say weve done enough for iraq lol.I hope you people pay for this for the rest of your lives and maybe next time youll think twice about attacking a country that never attacked you....
Dems want Iraqis to spend oil surplus
So how are the Canadian oil contracts doing these days my friend? Considering that these contracts were held by French and Russian companies I guess it's a "your welcome".
Have a good one!:s4:
Dems want Iraqis to spend oil surplus
Fishman you're such a leftist I wouldn't be surprised if you wanted to bear Robspierre child (Jk lol I had to say that). Anyway I agree that we INADVERTANTLY did more harm to Iraq but your literally making America out to look like the 3rd Reich. Yes we went in there for our own intentions but we most certainly did not enter Iraq intending to fuck up a country and take it over....and btw it wasn't us physically fucking up the country it was our presence which pissed off a minority who decided to fuck up the country just to create a power vacuum so they could ultimately take it over. How dare you bash American's for being evil. Ok we're idiots who made a mistake and clearly we're trying to fix that mistake but it's not as if we're over there literally shooting the people down and raping their women. We're just helping out a situation which we inadvertently created. I can't stand ignorant people when they sit here and listen to douchbags who give their two cents on whats going on over there only to skew the truth in favor of a good story.
Dems want Iraqis to spend oil surplus
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Originally Posted by Dream of the iris
Fishman you're such a leftist I wouldn't be surprised if you wanted to bear Robspierre child (Jk lol I had to say that). Anyway I agree that we INADVERTANTLY did more harm to Iraq but your literally making America out to look like the 3rd Reich. Yes we went in there for our own intentions but we most certainly did not enter Iraq intending to fuck up a country and take it over....and btw it wasn't us physically fucking up the country it was our presence which pissed off a minority who decided to fuck up the country just to create a power vacuum so they could ultimately take it over. How dare you bash American's for being evil. Ok we're idiots who made a mistake and clearly we're trying to fix that mistake but it's not as if we're over there literally shooting the people down and raping their women. We're just helping out a situation which we inadvertently created. I can't stand ignorant people when they sit here and listen to douchbags who give their two cents on whats going on over there only to skew the truth in favor of a good story.
Were you under your bed with the blankets over your head when the US was bombing the hell out of Bagdad ?
Did you miss the reports of US soldiers raping and killing a whole family ? U.S. Military Rape in Iraq
I hate ignorance too and it is obvious from your post you are doing your best to ignore the truth.
The poor girl Abeer was neither the first to be raped by American troops, nor will she be the last. The only reason this rape was brought to light and publicized is that her whole immediate family were killed along with her. Rape is a taboo subject in Iraq. Families don't report rapes there, they avenge them. We've been hearing whisperings about rapes in American-controlled prisons and during sieges of towns like Haditha and Samarra for the last three years. The naiveté of Americans who can't believe their 'heroes' are committing such atrocities is ridiculous. Who ever heard of an occupying army committing rape??? You raped the country, why not the people?
Dems want Iraqis to spend oil surplus
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Were you under your bed with the blankets over your head when the US was bombing the hell out of Bagdad ?
Kind of a stretch here.....seems to me, if I recall correctly, we were using laser guided precision missiles. NOT bombing civilian areas like your statement implied.
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Did you miss the reports of US soldiers raping and killing a whole family?
This is true and unfortunate. So what kind of prison time did they get again?
"On July 3, Steven Green was charged with rape and murder, and could get the death penalty if convicted. "
From your article.....
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Originally Posted by psychocat
The poor girl Abeer was neither the first to be raped by American troops, nor will she be the last.
Quite the assumption! Someday you people in Britain will HAVE to get over us kicking your asses in days gone by....or saving your asses depending on the time period.
Ah yes...brings an old favorite to mind.:D
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyXrxfjEOhs[/YOUTUBE]
Have a good one!:s4:
