another stump question

if you dont know what your growing
someone gave me the seeds that he payed for
what is the normal rule of thumb for vegging and flowering
i am at 50 days of veg on 18/6 w/125 hps.
on some of the plants i am seeing pre flowers. i want to cut clones and sex them but not sure what time frame to do it in. i have been using only water up to this point. i started nutes yesterday.
from what ive read here there is no way to determine what the plants are by looking at them so im kinda stumped as to what time frame im in. i guess my question is do i need to root the clones first or go right into 12/12 to figure out the sexing?
thanks everyone for their help so far.im trying to get some pics up but they are to big for the website,soon as figure out how to shrink em up ill post them.
speedy

When you take clones, get them well-rooted and in a proper pot before initiating flower.
Go by size and health of your plants. If you JUST started fertilizing, you might want to give yourself some extra time to make sure that your fertilizer routine agrees with your plants.
Don't forget to label the clones according to which mother they came from.
REad the link in my sig for some cloning hints too.

thanks stinky
heres a pic ,i think ,if its small enough now.
reading, reading, reading...... ahhhhh to be a stump again.

does anyone play music for there plants? my mom swears by it
and she grows stuff your not supposed to be able to grow in her house. no cann. but ferns in texas dont normally do well hers thrive.elephant ears you can walk under they are so tall. anyway just wondering she plays classical music. anyone? bueller?
speedy

ps
this falls under another stump question i think

mine get 93.7 klbj when im not around

Yes, music can enahance and speed up plant growth.

Studies show the best music for plant growth is heavy metal.

I personally cannot stand heavy metal and rarely play my gigantic stereo system anyway now that I have stupid lights and fans running all damn day and the electric bill is bad enough.

peace

i put the radio up there and its dialed in with the timer instead of 24/7. thanks guys for the response.
speedy

well hears the find
Earthpulse Press
this was a very good read,and after reading im gonna try a new experiment.

I remember reading something similar to this before, and was really intrigued by it then. I've always been privy to weird experiments, and using sound waves and/or electrical stimulation on the roots is something I've always wanted to try. Electroshock therapy just sounds so cool, until you start thinking too deeply into it. "Electro" + "shock" + moist, conductive conditions = a potentially bad day. Luckily, innovative pioneers are a dime a dozen among us stoners! :jointsmile:

im trying these
YouTube - The Rainforest
to start bird chirping supposedly opens the stomata even more
then this one after that. YouTube - Rain Forest Sounds, there is also a guy using specific sound waves and sonic bloom i have read.
im gonna try this on my first round of flowering.