discourse on hash oil/green dragon

hello everyone, its me bogoljub fresh of the 30 day suspension.

and ive been doing some stuff with hash oil, a little expieremtnation.

well guys.... what ive found, so far for sure.... is....... (dah dah)......

you want to chill it. chill is the key to hash oil and to green dragon.

you take your weed, you put it in your alcohol. then.... you put it inthe fridge until the temp draws down. only like 30 minutes.

then either take a spoon, and stir vigorously. you will see the trichomes/crystals fall off in an abundance.
keep doing it until you dont see any additional trichomes being added.

the amount you need to stir, is the amount of the weed.

if you have like on ounce or 2..... you should stir for like 2 hours.

for smaller amounts.... stir for like 5 minutes.

if your doing a quarter ounce....... i say stir for like 20 minutes.

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again... to reiterate.... mix weed with alcohol. chill till its the same temp as the fridge.

then stir vigorously.

mind this-

look at the alcohol/weed mix..... and see its gold color content before you stir. then, as you stir, reexamine it.

you sould see a dramatic increase in gold after stiring.

you will know you are done stirring when no more gold appears. when there is no increase in gold trichomes.

Why would you put it in the fridge?

The whole point of green dragon is to extract THC into alcohol. Solubility goes down as temperature goes down, so it would take longer for the THC to go into the alcohol if it's colder..

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Originally Posted by Sweet_Leaf_91

Why would you put it in the fridge?

The whole point of green dragon is to extract THC into alcohol. Solubility goes down as temperature goes down, so it would take longer for the THC to go into the alcohol if it's colder..

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I agree. It doens't make sense. The point of GD is to dissolve the THC, and for that you need heat. Cold extractions are for knocking the trichs off and then filtering them out of the suspension, but GD is about dissolving. Two different things.

Hash oil is about dissolving too. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the best hash oil is clear, because the only chemical in it is THC and the other cannibinoids, and they have no pigment. The deeper colored your hash oil, the more pigments from the leaf and other chemicals are included.

Besides, doesn't alcohol extraction hash oil take forever to get rid of the alcohol? I'd rather do it with a butane setup.

Would a pre-bake change the effects of hash oil? Considering you're burning the stuff anyway to turn the THCA to THC... Maybe THCA isn't as readily absorbed by butane as THC.

points well taken.

as we all know.... if you freeze bud, the crystals fall off easier. this is why i chill it when producing green dragon.

the trichomes/crystals fall off quicker when cold then when at room temp.

and also.... correct me if im wrong, but isnt that the only way the thc is transfered into alcohol? i mean.... what else contains thc that is transferred into the alcohol, other then the trichomes?

as far as i know.... he trichomes, golden in color, are what contains the thc. its not like the alcohol sucks up liquid thc in the stems, although that might also be true.

look. im pretty sure i know what im talking about.

try this. take like a few grams of bud..... and put that in some alcohol. then take some other bud..... and put that in alcohol too.

then chill one, and dont chill the other. see which one comes out more potent.

for me...... the one that is most potent is the one that is chilled. i cant say i did an expierement like that...... but i have not chilled some, and chilled others. and the ones i chilled were moe potent then the ones i didnt.

remember. you want them to fall off. you want the trichomes to fall off.

what would facilitate that, other then cold? cold is better then room temp, to facilitate crystals falling off.

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now.... i hae wondered....what would happen if you heated the alcohol, below evaporation point, but hot enough to get things going.

i dont know what would happen. i havent tried it.

The trichromes contain the MOST thc/plant material. They're also on the outside of the plant. The alcohol sucks the THC out of the plant material, and reactions work fastest when they're hot. Drop some food coloring in ice water, then drop it in boiling water, and see which changes colors fastest.

When you cook it, you accelerate the process, and by grinding, you give the absolute most surface area to the alcohol, to further accelerate the process. It's Chemistry 101. If you stirred it while you were cooking it, it'd go super fast. Ever make tea? Throw a bunch of whole tea leaves in cold water and let it sit there. It might NEVER brew. Now, grind up your tea, put it in hot water, and stir the crap out of it! You'll have tea in two minutes!

The only part of the chemistry the pre-bake has anything to do with is converting THCa to THC, which when you smoke it, it heats up and converts. But when you ingest it the temperatures in your body DON'T. Pre-baking is a must for a potent batch.