So, what do you think. Man made disaster that's destroying our planet, or maybe if you would prefer, an American made disaster?
Or, bullshit?
My vote is for bull shit.:thumbsup:
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So, what do you think. Man made disaster that's destroying our planet, or maybe if you would prefer, an American made disaster?
Or, bullshit?
My vote is for bull shit.:thumbsup:
here's hopin its bullshit:jointsmile: Georgia's winter is pretty much non-existent now though. 70's in february is just ridiculous.
It's a natural occurrence for our planet. However, also take note of the changes that are taking place elsewhere in our solar system. (The melting ice-caps on Jupiter's moon.)
Not just Jupiter, each planet in our solar system has shown an incrimental increase in relative temp. Unless someone can explaing how people are causing that, simplest explanation seems the most logical, might have something to do with the GIANT BALL OF FIRE IN THE SKY!!:jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Innominate
Random articles about global warming were pulled from 983 peer-reviewed scientific articles, and NONE of them question its existance.
Yes, temperatures (along with CO2 levels) naturally fluctuate. However, 2005 was the hottest year ever recorded throughout this planets entire history. Surprisingly enough, it is also the year with the highest CO2 levels ever recorded. It is also a well established fact that greenhouse gases absorb infrared radiation from the sun, and trap it in the atmosphere.
Once again, global warming's existance is not disputed (even though the politicians may suggest it is :thumbsup:)
Do some research.
I think the "cause" is what is at question. How do you account for "solar system warming"? 2005, hottest year recorded, what percentage of the earths climate history has been offically recorded? Hottest year since they started recording? All living organisms aside from plants, exhale CO2 every time they breath?Quote:
Originally Posted by r0k
By the way, I could easily post many many articles that dispute WHY global warming is happening. I guess it comes down to whether or not one would care to read them.
And from what I see, most politicians accept the myth blindly on both sides of the isle for fear of political suicide if they question it.
So I say to you, do some research!:thumbsup:
Global Warming is real, and it is man-made.
We know for a fact that human activity has altered the compostion of the earth's atmosphere by removing carbon from under ground and adding it to the air in the form of CO2 --- that fact is not in dispute by anyone, not even those who doubt the end result of Global Warming. The only dispute is whether that extra CO2 can actually alter the climate. Most scientists say it can, while others say it is unproven.
I think it can alter the climate, and it has already begun to do so. It is possible to measure the historical concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere going back hundreds of thousands of years, and it is also possible to measure the historical temperature. Those measurements have shown that periods of higher CO2 concentration have corresponded to periods of higher temperature and vice versa. Those measurements also show that the CO2 concentration has spiked up in less than a century to the highest levels in the record. The temperature is begining to catch up to the rapid CO2 spike, and I think it will result in rapid and upredictable climate change.
BTW, 8182KSKUSH, if you want real responses to your survey, you should try not to build a bias into the answers. If you want it biased toward your own way of thinking, leave it as is.
Fact is co2 levels spike in relation to temp increase, but not as presented in that propoganda film. CO2 levels increase AS A RESULT of temp increase, they don't cause the increase. Can any of the believers explain how we are warming our entire solar system? It's a natural occuring event. How can multiple periods of warming and cooling be explained that pre-date the modern industrial age?:wtf: Please someone explain how WE are warming all of the other planets in our solar system!:D
This is not intended to be an unbiased survey, remember I openly stated that I think it's bull shit!:thumbsup:
Seriousely I will sell anyone that wants them some carbon offsets, c'mon it will make you feel good!:D
Temperature increases do release CO2 trapped in permafrost and can increase decomposition of organic matter into CO2. There is some concern that this feedback loop may exacerbate the human caused waming by dumping even more CO2 into the atmosphere as warming procedes. But what is the evidence that historical CO2 levels have spiked as a result of temperature increases? For someone who doubts that CO2 effects temperature, which is a fairly well modeled phenomenon, you seem pretty confident that warming affects CO2. You don't believe that the past century's increase in CO2 concentrations are the result of warming, do you? I think that it has been proven that the extra carbon in the atmosphere is fossil carbon, not carbon from the normal atmospheric carbon cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
What evidence is there that the whole solar system is warming? I heard someone else say that the other day. First I've heard of it. The sun does vary its output over time, but I have not heard that it has been measured actually doing so to the point of affecting global (or solar system) temperatures. And I have not heard that other planets have been measured to be experiencing warming. I'd be interested in hearing more about that. It seems amazing to me that we could actually prove that other planets are heating up, but according to some we can't prove that our own is heating up. Maybe we need to get some of those thermometers they are using in space.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
Climate variability is a naturally occuring phenomenon --- everyone knows that. There have been multiple ice ages and warmer periods throughout geologic history. There are long term periodic cycles that have to do with changes in the orbit of the earth around the sun and the angle of the axis on which the earth spins. There are also cycles within the atmosphere and oceans that change the climate over time. The rise of a mountain range over millions of years alters climate for entire continents and even the whole planet. Catastrophic events like meteor impacts alter the climate.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
But just because climate change occurs naturally does not mean that human activity is not also affecting the climate. Human activity has indisputably alterd the CO2 concentration of the atmosphere. Why is it difficult to believe that changing the atmosphere would have consequences?
Certainly no one has ever claimed that we are warming all of the other planets in our solar system.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH