Lawyers for Gitmo detainees endorse Obama

More than 80 volunteer lawyers for Guantanamo Bay detainees today endorsed Illinois Senator Barack Obama's presidential bid.

The attorneys said in a joint statement that they believed Obama was the best choice to roll back the Bush-Cheney administration's detention policies in the war on terrorism and thereby to "restore the rule of law, demonstrate our commitment to human rights, and repair our reputation in the world community." The attorneys are representing the detainees in habeas corpus lawsuits, which are efforts to get individual hearings before federal judges in order to challenge the basis for their indefinite imprisonment without trial.
Lawyers for Gitmo detainees endorse Obama - 2008 Presidential Campaign Blog - Political Intelligence - Boston.com

Terrorists for Obama.....isn't that special?

Have a good one!:s4:

What's wrong with lawyers who believe in The United States Constitution?


Amendment 6 - Right to Speedy Trial, Confrontation of Witnesses.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.


Do you believe all people in prison are guilty? Believe all people being contained unlawfully are guilty?

I don't know about you ... but I get :wtf: when I see legislation passed that allows the government to label you a terrorist and put you "away" without any judicial oversight.

IMHO ... those lawyers are fighting an important cause.

Section 2 - Trial by Jury, Original Jurisdiction, Jury Trials

(The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party; to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.) (This section in parentheses is modified by the 11th Amendment.)

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.
The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

They aren't citizens of the U.S., where does it state that terrorists have equal rights to a U.S. taxpayer?

Have a good one!:s4:

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What's wrong with lawyers who believe in The United States Constitution?


Amendment 6 - Right to Speedy Trial, Confrontation of Witnesses.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.


Do you believe all people in prison are guilty? Believe all people being contained unlawfully are guilty?

I don't know about you ... but I get :wtf: when I see legislation passed that allows the government to label you a terrorist and put you "away" without any judicial oversight.

IMHO ... those lawyers are fighting an important cause.

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exactly. we supposedly go into a country that we're liberating, round people up, detain them indefinitely without charge and without being able to face their accusers, and we're supposed to think that's liberation...

people say they're "terrorists" but don't we and shouldn't we have to prove that? isn't that what happens in a free country?

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Terrorists for Obama.....isn't that special?

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That was really below the belt, bro...

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

They aren't citizens of the U.S., where does it state that terrorists have equal rights to a U.S. taxpayer?

Have a good one!:s4:

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Ummm ... you do realize that the current legislation allows the government to detain its OWN people right? Not all people detained without jury are foreign terrorists.

Under current legislation the federal government can detain ANY person ... both foreign and domestic without the approval of a judge. They can hold that person without judicial review for as long as they like.

The lawyers aren't fighting for the rights of terrorists ... they're fighting for the check and balances our original government understood were important.

So what are you saying ... that's it ok for the US to "fight for global liberty" and push the development of a constitution on other governments ... while completely ignoring their own "constitution morale?

The US Constitution doesn't say "all Americans are created equal" or "we the Americans".
Either a government believes that all people are created equal and deserve basic rights (right to trial) ... or it doesn't.

And since when does asking for someone to have a fair trial the same as supporting what they may or may not have done?
Those lawyers are fighting on principle, not because they support terrorism. It's pretty obvious.

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And since when does asking for someone to have a fair trial the same as supporting what they may or may not have done?
Those lawyers are fighting on principle, not because they support terrorism. It's pretty obvious.

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Yes, you'd think that would be pretty obvious...

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Originally Posted by pisshead

Yes, you'd think that would be pretty obvious...

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Exactly. When the best solution is obvious, Americans seem to run as far away as possible.

Like the metric system.

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Originally Posted by melodious fellow

Exactly. When the answer is obvious, Americans seem to run as far away as possible.

Like the metric system.

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I meant to type "answer" instead of "best solution" in the original

I was high as a bitch.... apologies :D

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Ummm ... you do realize that the current legislation allows the government to detain its OWN people right? Not all people detained without jury are foreign terrorists.

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PLEASE post a link.........

Have a good one!:s4: