Use Your Head!

Throughout my day I browse these threads occasionally commenting here or there, but I am sick of reading the same old posts over and over about how the outcome of this presidential election could lead to the overall legalization of MJ, there is no chance that any president elect would even consider legalizing MJ. Do you realize how much money is involved?????? Millions upon millions of dollars are spent every fiscal year by large pharmaceutical companies to keep things such as MJ illegal. Why on Earth would they want any average person to be able to grow their own medicine? Aside from that there is a billion dollar a year pre-employment drug testing industry that would be virtually wiped out if MJ was legal, that along with state and federal revenues extracted from enforcing so called drug enforcement laws and penalties are extremely profitable. To make it completely clear..... we have ultimately become a victim of our past........Dating back to the original MJ laws directly aimed at the Mexican immigrant population in the southwest in the early 1900's. In a perfect world we would be able to look back at our decisions that were purely based on racism and a suppression of an entire peoples culture and say "Hey that was BS" But I am sorry to say our world is far from perfect.............All anyone can do is keep on keepin on... and try to leave the world a better place than when you found it....... :stoned:



***Wow, talk about a stoned rant...:stoned:

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Originally Posted by ldg420

Millions upon millions of dollars are spent every fiscal year by large pharmaceutical companies to keep things such as MJ illegal. Aside from that there is a billion dollar a year pre-employment drug testing industry that would be virtually wiped out if MJ was legal, that along with state and federal revenues extracted from enforcing so called drug enforcement laws and penalties are extremely profitable.

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You're right. But, I'm not leaving this world better than I arrived, and, no one wants to help me out with that (aside from "criminals"), so what reason do I have to better the rest of the world?

If the U.S. lost millions of dollars, making cannabis legal, they'd have to look somewhere else for that money. Maybe, they could do some good in another aspect of society.

Like full-fledged methamphetamine policing. Or, trading food for labor.

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Originally Posted by ldg420

Throughout my day I browse these threads occasionally commenting here or there, but I am sick of reading the same old posts over and over about how the outcome of this presidential election could lead to the overall legalization of MJ, there is no chance that any president elect would even consider legalizing MJ. Do you realize how much money is involved?????? Millions upon millions of dollars are spent every fiscal year by large pharmaceutical companies to keep things such as MJ illegal. Why on Earth would they want any average person to be able to grow their own medicine? Aside from that there is a billion dollar a year pre-employment drug testing industry that would be virtually wiped out if MJ was legal, that along with state and federal revenues extracted from enforcing so called drug enforcement laws and penalties are extremely profitable. To make it completely clear..... we have ultimately become a victim of our past........Dating back to the original MJ laws directly aimed at the Mexican immigrant population in the southwest in the early 1900's. In a perfect world we would be able to look back at our decisions that were purely based on racism and a suppression of an entire peoples culture and say "Hey that was BS" But I am sorry to say our world is far from perfect.............All anyone can do is keep on keepin on... and try to leave the world a better place than when you found it....... :stoned:



***Wow, talk about a stoned rant...:stoned:

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It's not about being able to legalize MJ. It is about allowing the states to determine the legality of MJ not our federal government. We are a United States which means that each state can decide what the legality of MJ should be. The only purpose our federal government is supposed to serve is to ensure our rights are not trampled on at the state level.

I don't really believe that the illegal status of Marijuana has much to do with drug companies or any other kinds of big corporations protecting their profits. I think it has more to do with the fear of many people that legalizing weed would make us all into potheads, and our society would fall apart because no one would ever get anything done. Or maybe they are not worried about society as a whole, but just worried that their own kid would become a pot-smoking drop-out loser, smoking blunts, eating Dorritos, and playing video games in their bedroom and never move out of the house.

Whatever the fear is, many people who have no corporate profits at stake see weed as a detriment to society and do not want to see it legal. So because of that, there are very few politicians who are going to be intereted in spending much of their political capital on fighting the fight for legalizing weed. There's a lot to lose by taking on that battle, and from a politician's point of view, there is not a lot to gain.

Probably the best you can hope for is to have politicians decide that the money they are wasting on the bogus War on Drugs is money they would like to spend elsewhere. All politicians have their own priorities, and maybe if some other prioritiy becomes more important than hunting down people in the pot trade, then maybe something will change.

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Originally Posted by dragonrider

I don't really believe that the illegal status of Marijuana has much to do with drug companies or any other kinds of big corporations protecting their profits. I think it has more to do with the fear of many people that legalizing weed would make us all into potheads, and our society would fall apart because no one would ever get anything done. Or maybe they are not worried about society as a whole, but just worried that their own kid would become a pot-smoking drop-out loser, smoking blunts, eating Dorritos, and playing video games in their bedroom and never move out of the house.

Whatever the fear is, many people who have no corporate profits at stake see weed as a detriment to society and do not want to see it legal. So because of that, there are very few politicians who are going to be intereted in spending much of their political capital on fighting the fight for legalizing weed. There's a lot to lose by taking on that battle, and from a politician's point of view, there is not a lot to gain.

Probably the best you can hope for is to have politicians decide that the money they are wasting on the bogus War on Drugs is money they would like to spend elsewhere. All politicians have their own priorities, and maybe if some other prioritiy becomes more important than hunting down people in the pot trade, then maybe something will change.

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There are billions of dollars a year made just from drug testing, so yes if pot were legal these companies would lose money. Also there are private prison systems that would also lose money if pot were legal. In 2006 alone there were over 800,000 arrests made for possession of MJ. We are also fighting a propaganda machine, and the same politicians who smoke it also want to keep it illegal. It also does not matter what the politicians think they are elected to serve only one interest and that is of the people they represent not what their own thoughts and opinions are on MJ. If MJ is so dangerous then why are Tobacco and Alcohol still legal?

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Originally Posted by epxroot

It also does not matter what the politicians think they are elected to serve only one interest and that is of the people they represent not what their own thoughts and opinions are on MJ.

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I agree with this, but what I am saying is that many people do not want to see mairijauna legalized. In that sense then, I think politicians are doing what most people want, just like you said they should. Or they are just leaving the situation status quo until the public decides conclusively that they want it legal. There may be some corporate interests involved as you said, but I think the main factor is that many individual citizens do not want to see it legal, or they don't care enough one way or another to see it change.

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Originally Posted by dragonrider

I agree with this, but what I am saying is that many people do not want to see mairijauna legalized. In that sense then, I think politicians are doing what most people want, just like you said they should. Or they are just leaving the situation status quo until the public decides conclusively that they want it legal. There may be some corporate interests involved as you said, but I think the main factor is that many individual citizens do not want to see it legal, or they don't care enough one way or another to see it change.

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And you my friend are right!! Why are most people against MJ, well thats what we are told anyway is because they are mis-informed about MJ. Our own government lies to us about the so called dangers of MJ. I feel it is there responsibility to speak the truth about MJ, and until we can organize more and demand the truth we will always be oppressed when it comes to smoking MJ.

Most voting-Americans were born before cannabinoid receptors were discovered. Human beings are more tainted than other mammals, birds, fish, and reptiles. They have them, yet, you don't see the Great White Shark outlawing sea-reefer.

Great White Sharks get most of their cannabinoids by devouring THC-saturated surfers.

i been fighting for decimilizing buds since the mid 80s. if anyone else rememers what the fight was like back then it almost seemed like an unwinnable battle. and it has been an uphill struggle. back then we were ALL burn out stoners. no respectable person would beleive that mj was good for people or had any worth at all. fast foward 20 years and now many of these same people have been convinced that they were misinformed and have voted for decrimalizing. we have gained much ground 20 years ago there were NO states that had mmj laws now we have 12. then almost all states you would get thrown any jail for small possesion now most states just slap your wrist. we have come a long way but the fight is far from over. we can not give up. as time changes so will the laws.

wich brings me to my next point. voting for a pro-legalization pres. is not the only answer. ron paul sounds good in his anti drug war retorict but with out the congress he will not acheive it. the pres does not make or change laws.so just voting for pres is almost wasting your time, you have to vote in every election. that means local elections all the way to fed elections. you have to get the people that have the same veiws as yourself in ALL the offices. even run for public office yourself. anyone can run for office even if it is nothing more than city council. and if you do win then your voice will be heard that much louder. and starting localy does work. i can give you a couple examples of me as one person changing things in my home town. one was a housing project i got the city council to vote down another was a school issue. these i started protesting and putting out info that made changes where i lived and i started almost single handed.

if your interested the housing thing was to sell off public land that would be annexed to build houses on that would start at approx 250k rather than build within the city. the other was a teacher pay raise, my home town at that time would hire teachers with no less than 10 yaers experience and their starting salary was no less than 60k a year. the point was why should a teacher make twice the salary of what is average. there was also a bussing issue along wih it. now dont get me wrong im not against paying teachers a livable salery but when the rest of the people make between 25-35k year .....