Bottle Size and a thermos

Great site!

I have a question â?¦. Iâ??m going to sub for the test. Most people on this forum use a 2 oz bottle. Iâ??m going to use a 4 oz.

I remember last test I gave, I had to piss in a larger container, then the clinic person took that and poured the piss into a smaller container, which I assume is shipped out for testing.

Does anyone know what the average size is for the larger container? I want to make sure that I bring enough with me to satisfy that first, larger container. Thatâ??s why the 4 oz bottle. A 2oz would fit under the balls better, but I want to be sure I have enough.

Also, instead of storing the bottle with a hand warmer to keep warm, has anyone tried storing the bottle in a thermos filled with warm water? My thought is storing the piss bottle in a warm thermos, then it take out, dry it off and hide under the balls right before I go in the building. Any thoughts? Iâ??m practicing now and recording all temps. Iâ??ll post my findings and any results later.

Thanks!

2 oz is all thats required but some of the fly by night outfits might try to get you to piss more.4 Oz should be plenty for them.

The thermos idea would probably work if you got the water the right temp and if you have time to do the switch.
Usually if you have access to a microwave its easier to just do that.

thanks killer,

just a temp update...

so far, I've tested the temp of my fresh piss on 2 separate times..

9 PM .. 96.7
10.55 PM .. 96.3

This is very fresh piss, hot off the tap, in a walgreens testers cup using a digital thermometer. Does this sound right? I figuered it would be closer to 98?

I'm trying to get an accurate temp for my freah piss, as that is the temp I want to pour out from the sub when I do the real thing. I figure it would be good to have something as a benchmark to compare.

As I say, later when I do more testing, I will post all my results. Hey, maybe it will help someone. Hopefully this will help me!

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Originally Posted by slayer rocks

9 PM .. 96.7
10.55 PM .. 96.3

This is very fresh piss, hot off the tap, in a walgreens testers cup using a digital thermometer. Does this sound right? I figuered it would be closer to 98?

I'm trying to get an accurate temp for my freah piss, as that is the temp I want to pour out from the sub when I do the real thing. I figure it would be good to have something as a benchmark to compare.

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Well angel of death, (for those that don't know that's a Slayer reference not an insult) unless you are pissing directly on the thermometer, the cup absorbs a little bit of the heat and drops the temp slightly. Most tests the range is 90-100 (in the substitution sticky), some are 92-98.

Also, read this amount the volume needed.

http://boards.cannabis.com/drug-test...oz-enough.html

There's no need to try to "satisfy" the large container. It holds a good bit (at least 8 ounces at least) and it's big like that so you don't make a mess everywhere. Think about it. Who wants to try to piss in the little vials? Ask a girl that question too.

Thank you kind people for the replies!!

I think that Iâ??ll go with the 2oz, it feels better and I feel is less noticeable. Also, I have 2 other questions..

What is the safest temp fresh piss can be heated up to? To use the thermos trick, I may have to drop it in water that is 110 â?? 115, that will raise the temp of the piss up. Per the sub method posted, my thought is it should be fairly high because the temp will decrees once under the balls for a while, (hopefully to the level of normal piss that Iâ??m using for my benchmark.)

Also, this is pre-employment, I shouldnâ??t have to worry about some guy feeling my private area to see if Iâ??m hiding anything, right? I donâ??t think that ever happened, but canâ??t remember.

I also would like to post my situation. Info can only help and this site has been really cool, the best Iâ??ve found so far, however a virus attacked me when I had that one PDF open. Not sure if that was it.

45 years old, 160 lbs, heavy smoker for about 33 years. I stopped on Nov 4. Drank tons of water based on my brothers advice. Also on his advice, did the GNC 2 day detox during the first week. Tested myself a few days after.. positive. Waste of money.

Continued to drink TONS of water. Tested myself about every 6 days. The tests came back negative, but noticed that the negative line, (2 line test), always smeared after while. On Turkey Day, I tested myself 1st morning, mid stream piss â?¦ positive. Started to jog hard to burn some fat, but my legs are now too sore, so screw that. Decided based on a lot of posts here to sub. My girlfriend is going to pee for me, so Iâ??m not going to use the synthetic stuff.

On Sunday, Nov 25, I will be 3 weeks dry. Iâ??m going to accept job offer this week that comes with a test, but donâ??t know when. I will continue to test myself so I know my body status. I plan on dilution method with water as a back up if issues with the sub. It can buy me time if needed. I think Iâ??ll be ok.

I also want to share my DT history..

Years ago, I passed drinking a fast gallon of Puree Blend tea 3 hours before a test. (Now, every time my mom makes a cup of Lipton, I want to vomit! After all these years!) I would frown on that now.

Detox drink once worked for me, but another time I got a false negative and blew off the job offer because nothing to do at the time. I doubt Iâ??ll use that shit again unless desperate.

THE BEST THING TO DO IS NOT TO SMOKE!!!! If you have time use it! I know itâ??s not easy to not smoke, but I have always preached that weed is not addictive, but based on my experience, and some of the posts here, Iâ??m starting to think it is. But for me, Iâ??d rather trade in the addition of alcohol for weed anytime, but not when I need to test. A buzz is not worth it. Like stopping cigarettes, get all the pipes and bongs and whatever out of the house to help. And stay away from people who will turn you on. Tell them nothing personal and you will be back, but avoid all temptation. (It was so nice to walk into a gas station late at night, full of cops, after I stopped my drinking habit. Not shit they can do, though they would like to!! The same is for weed. If you have nothing to fear, then there is no stress!)

I read posts here where people light up right after the test. Not smart. You never know. Iâ??m going to wait until long after Iâ??m sitting at my new desk .. then look out!!

The last time I stopped, it was 37 days before the test, and I was negative. Also, always test at home!! I think Walgreens stock always jumps when Iâ??m looking for a job. I like to know my status at all times. Sure it can cost a few bucks, but to me, itâ??s worth knowing whatâ??s going on, even if Iâ??m going to sub. The short term cost of tests is nothing compared to long term gains of passing. But thatâ??s me.

Sorry for making a short story long!! I will keep all posted of tests and results.

Hey....instead of buying the test strips at your local pharmacy try buying them online. They are MUCH cheaper that way....like about $1.00 (and some change) each. Imagine how many dollars you could had saved with the number of tests you have done???

Given your history I think subbing is going to be your most reliable method. It could be another month before you piss clean.I would also recommend just going the synthetic urine route. More reliable.
It will stay up to temp for quite a while(hours) when under your balls.But its better to have it a little warm rather that a little to cold. You can always blow on it to get the temp down.
They won't be grabbing your crotch. They'll just ask you to empty your pockets.

I am with subbing, and not just for the smoking, but I find it a little offense to have people ask me for my damn bodily fluids :mad: just my feelings, so give them my real piss, fuck them. :rambohead:

Thank's KNOTME & Killer,

Question ... Does weed potency make a difference with the THC in the body for testing? I was smoking dirt when I stopped, would that make a difference in time?

Didn't think of cheap on line tests before. Half of the bullshit on the Internet is a rip off so I went to the store instead. What's some decent on test brands?

I'll have to look into the synth stuff, but for now, I feel ok with piss, as long as it is ok with the raise of temp during transportation. That's how people subbed before synth. I remember my ex used her mom's piss years ago and was ok.

I am practicing as hell! Went to Walmart to get my glasses and other stuff. Before I went, dropped 2oz bottle of 97 water in a thermos with 116 water in it. Drove to walmart. Recored temps in car first, stashed the 2oz under the balls and went inside. Shopped and did a few things. Back in the car, poured the test in a testers cup and took temp ... 96

I use baby thermometer stips on the side of the bottle to try and get an outside temp for the real thing. During practice, I use digital thermometer.

Practice! I also have been practicing the best way to pour in the cup from the 2oz. Needs to be quite. Also, top off bottle so there is no moving liquid noise when walking.

The only thing is when the real thing happens is dealing with temps if it's too hot or too cool.

speaking of slayer, there is a song called Exile that comes to mind when I think of this testing bullshit. It does "Piss" me off, but it will never change, too much money being made keeping it illegal

I have yet another question ...

as mentioned, I'm subbing with my girlfreind's piss.

She has had breast cancer and currently is taking Femara 2.5mg. I researched side affects for this and found nothing I would worry about in terms of piss.

I saw posts for pregnacy issues and thought if a breast cancer drug was found, that might be as well. Men do get breast cancer, but as we know it mostly women. That might rasie a flag if found.

To be honest, I don't think it's a problem, but I want to ask if anyone has an idea. You never know, trying to cover all bases.

Thanks all