Mike Gravel

What do you think about Mike Gravel?
And explain what you like and don't like about him.
What do you think about his platform:
-national initiative:I personally like this one. Initiative's can be very beneficial. Hell, it's what got cannabis decriminalized here. I'm just not sure how it would work federally.
-end to the war on drugs
-replacing income tax with sales tax; abolishing IRS
-cutting back our nuclear arsenal
-Fighting terrorism by using intelligence and stopping terrorist funding instead of preemptive invasions

Everyone tried to paint him as a nutcase, so that's what I expected before I researched him. But, I actually really like him now that I've researched his platform for a while. He may not have the best odds, but I think his views beet the other democrats and republicans(though, I still like Ron Paul).

"Everyone tried to paint him as a nutcase, so that's what I expected before I researched him. But, I actually really like him now that I've researched his platform for a while. He may not have the best odds, but I think his views beet the other democrats and republicans(though, I still like Ron Paul)."

Amazing what we can find when one actually takes the time to research a candidate. I don't consider the legalization of MJ as a major platform for president, however, it is here that I learned about Ron Paul, Gravel, and Kucinich. They are about so much more then MJ, but I thank the site for bringing them to my attention.

These 3 candidates make a lot of sense, and are putting a collective "weed" up the ass of the traditional parties. In reality, these 3 don't have much chance because they speak the truth and make too much common sense, however, a third party may break through with our collective support.

Kucinich is too liberal fiscally to go anywhere. I think Mike Gravel and Ron Paul would actually have a chance if the damn media weren't trying to snuff them out.

-cutting back our nuclear arsenal

How is THAT good? You want to be unprepared?

The Issues | Gravel 2008

There is VERY little that I agree with this dude on. His stance on Iraq, Iran, gun control just to mention a few.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by rebgirl420

-cutting back our nuclear arsenal

How is THAT good? You want to be unprepared?

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Because it would set an example for the rest of the world. The only reason Iran would go nuclear is because they're scared shitless of us. That is why countries go nuclear, because they can check the major world powers without having an enormous GDP or military. The world is not safer when other countries think they need the bomb to stop the United States from invading them.

And by the way, we have a ridiculous amount of nukes. Enough to destroy every nation multiple times over(just incase they manage to re-populate!). We could cut our nukes in half(maybe more) and not affect our ability to defend or retaliate at all.

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

The Issues | Gravel 2008

There is VERY little that I agree with this dude on. His stance on Iraq, Iran, gun control just to mention a few.

Have a good one!:s4:

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I'm not sure about immediate withdrawal from Iraq. I strongly believe it was a mistake to invade; now I think there literally is no good solution to Iraq. We stay, we're fucked; we leave, we're fucked.

Iran- So you would rather go to war with Iran than use diplomatic solutions after the international disaster that is Iraq. Without even considering how bad that would look after Iraq, I don't even think our military can take much more(plus, we would most likely still be in Iraq).

I'm not one for gun control either, but what would be wrong with having to be trained before you purchase one, not to control who gets guns and who doesn't but so somebody doesn't accidentally shoot his damn wife when he brings it home and tries to figure out the safety. I say at least have an on paper exam(even on site). For safety's sake.

Psycho, what do you think about the national inititiative? Just curious.

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Originally Posted by GotWake88

I'm not sure about immediate withdrawal from Iraq. I strongly believe it was a mistake to invade; now I think there literally is no good solution to Iraq. We stay, we're fucked; we leave, we're fucked.

IF you don't believe that we shouldn't have been there or not fact is we ARE there and things got destroyed in the process. In any form of law if this happens the one that did the act has to make it right. The only way we can do that is by staying the course.

Iran- So you would rather go to war with Iran than use diplomatic solutions after the international disaster that is Iraq. Without even considering how bad that would look after Iraq, I don't even think our military can take much more(plus, we would most likely still be in Iraq).

I've posted many threads regarding the mindset of this country. I'm not for a full blown invasion but we do have the capability of taking out their nuclear facitlities and whiping out enough of their military components to make this threat a small one. From there, it would be up to the people of that country whether or not they want to support the nutjob that got them into this situation. Remember, their parliment was stating that this leader was putting their country into harms way.....

I'm not one for gun control either, but what would be wrong with having to be trained before you purchase one, not to control who gets guns and who doesn't but so somebody doesn't accidentally shoot his damn wife when he brings it home and tries to figure out the safety. I say at least have an on paper exam(even on site). For safety's sake.

They already started to work on this freedom with the ban on assault weapons. I'd be VERY leary of letting them get their hands to deep into this constitutional right.

Psycho, what do you think about the national inititiative? Just curious.

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We have hundreds of lawyers making up laws that does NOT pertain to the budget of keeping the fed going. When the constitution was written it was in everyones best interests to have a representative in congress in order to speak for ya. With the computor age we are all just a web site away.

The only problem that I could see is that of national security where we aren't and shouldn't be privy to all the facts. These people have stacks upon stacks of documents regarding intellegence gathered and to have all this released to the public would put some people into harms way.

I'd go for a sensible split between the two systems I suppose you could say.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

The Issues | Gravel 2008

There is VERY little that I agree with this dude on. His stance on Iraq, Iran, gun control just to mention a few.

Have a good one!:s4:

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That pretty much confirms my choice, If you are against him, he must be the man of my dreams. I never figured two intelligent people (Giving you a compliment) could be so far apart on issues. He wants to stop the war, #1 on my list, the rest is collateral gratis. He'll never get gun control past the NRA, and in Nevada, We like our guns, wild wild west thingy.

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Originally Posted by medicinal

That pretty much confirms my choice, If you are against him, he must be the man of my dreams.

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LOL...now thats cold my brother! I can understand........but it's still COLD.....LOL.

So what is your feelings on the national inititiative? I got a feeling we'll be very close on this issue...........LOL

Have a good one!:s4: