Why fate must be the way...

A feather is falling from a hundred feet up, lets say you know everything about its shape, air dynamics, weight, and the precise movements of the wind. Then you would know precisely where it was going to land right? Now lets blow it up and say you know absolutely everything in the universe, every piece of data there is to know. Then wouldn't you know precisely how every factor would interact with every other factor. What if you knew someones brain chemistry and structure entirely wouldn't you be able to absoultely predict how they would interact with everything you know they shall come across.

Thus if the future can be determined then musn't fate exist?

you gotta hoook me up with some of the shit your smoking man

think about all that shit you just listed. No way a mortal human being could wrap their head around all that.

Maybe fate exists for the mind of god. Us silly humans get our free will.

sounds like you're right in a way man....except I also believe in the idea of random ideas and choice.....like sometime I myself don't even know what Im going to choose when it comes to some things....

I do believe in fate though which is why I believe when you make a wrong choice your life will show it with akward signs and omens and shit.....

I feel like I had a million ways to avoid what happened to me and my girlfriend tonight....

I wasnt supposed to be smoking because I promised myself I'd quit today because Ive got a possible piss test for a job.....I literally sat down today and questioned whether i should or not....and then THAT happened.....bullshit man.....

wasnt supposed to happen

yeah hook me up too...

I've thought of this...and I agree. There's no way any person or thing could know all those details, though. The data alone would require a parallel universe to store it.

No human would be able to hold that much data with loosing other bits of data. Our brains are bloody amazing, but not amazing enough, however, it's a very interesting idea.

In my experience even if we could predict everything some bugger would always fuck things up!!

The best laid plans 'o' mice an men gang aft a'gley Robert Burns (1759-1796)

NCM

You need to think more about determinism from the perspective of strange attractors. There are an infinite number of ways a feather can fall in exactly the same way.

if the universe is infinite, then there would be an infinite number of variables. the sheer volume of information would make it impossible to determine even one outcome. there is also the problem of those objects, especially those with free will, which act in a way contrary to their nature. within a relatively small closed system you might be able to make accurate predictions, but when the available data has no end all of the outcomes you are trying to predict would have come about long before you realized the futility of your endeavor.

damn. 7:30 in the morning and i'm already this high.