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First God was in the sky. We explored the sky and learned what was really up there.
Then God was in space, beyond the sky. We explored space and learned what was really out there.
Now God is in another dimension? Come one. When we're able to explore other dimensions, where will your God run to hide from science?
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The sad truth is, if people want to find where god is they need to peer into the human mind...
Personally I'd rather find Waldo than god. Fucker has been missing for days now...
not that i believe in god...
but i think the general consensus for this is just that god is above you.... whether it be in the sky, or in space, beyond the sky.... OR in another dimension he's still figuratively 'above you' since he's out of reach....
again i don't believe in god... just trying ot analyze your point....
when you have a complex concept of god, a collective of all thoughts, ideas, and mindsets, abd you try to explain that to people 2000 years ago, of COURSE they are going to take it the wrong way.
it implies god is everywhere, everything, but they think god is a being, an individual, a PERSON, so they immediately say god lives where you cant see him.
first it was sky, then space, now another dimension when the truth is, god is nothing more than the collective thought of everything that exists.
until science can observe thought, idea, mind, and consciousness, science is never going to find god.
god is nothing more than the ability to think.
nothing that cannot think CAN exist.
the mindset of a human, is a human being. the mindset of a rock, is a rock.
the mindset of god is everything and nothing and all anything in between.
It's really funny all the excuses people come up with to still believe in God. Up until a couple centuries ago, this idea that he was a non-real being somehow not in our "plane of reality" was completely foreign. God was a literal man living above the firmament of the sky. If you went up there, you would find him. Of course, God is a fairy tale so we didn't find him we invented aviation and space travel (by means of science, which is infinitely more productive than religion), but the idea of God was still emotionally comforting to so many people that they transferred him into some invisible parallel dimension. Why is God hiding so intently from us if he loves us so much and wants us to believe in him? I can't think of a reason why he would be, and it's always fun to watch religionists squirm trying to explain it.
Sometimes people come up with absurd definitions like "God is love" or "God is consciousness". No, love is love and consciousness is consciousness. Love and consciousness did not create the universe. There is no sense praying to love or consciousness. There is nothing about love or consciousness which is supernatural. These things are not gods. They are emergent phenomena of complex nervous systems, and using the word "God" for them is just plain misleading.
My preception is that god is in a seprate Spritual demention. A demention that is here, but not seen to the human eye. I am starting to read the bible and when im done i am going to post my entire views on Christianty and the Bible. So this opponion might change.
Wow. there's an obviously false blanket statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
Look, there probably are some people whose beliefs are just as literal as you always take them to be. And those people are obviously less developed in the use of human reason, though it does seem to make you feel like a big man when you point that out...
For the most part though, there seem to be vast numbers of believers who in recognizing that god is outside of human comprehension, actually end up believing some cool things and functioning amazingly well for society.
There will always be something we don't know, something more to learn. There will always be something happening outside of that narrow spectrum of existence that you recognise as reality.
dude, that sentence stumped both me and my wife (who both have a relatively good understading of english and being able to translate shit no one else coudl lol... )Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
read it a few times.. i have... you read it the first time, it puts one image in your head.. you read it a second, you start to see more 'flaws' (not nessicarly anything negatory, just things that don't add up) a third+ time, and the whole thing just kinda makes you think...Quote:
Originally Posted by Antihero867
i'm not telling you not to belive or something, but you definately can't make some summary just cuz you read it once.... just trust me.... it's almost like words jumped in there the repatitive times you read it, that weren't there the first... just take my word for it....
That rational squad thing is great, I have their logo all over my myspace hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by A Scanner Darkly