Evolution

I am an atheist myself, but I would like to know what religious people think about evolution and other emerging sciences. I don't see how it can be said that evolution by natural selection isn't real.

All the evidence is there. Looking at fossils you can see vestigial structures, parts that no longer work but worked in an ancestor. For instance, whales having hind legs, humans having tailbones, etc. Look at the embryo of a chicken and the embryo of a human in early stages. They look almost identical. Our cells and the cells of a bacterium have many similar functions. A strand of RNA in bacteria which codes for a specific protein will code for that same protein in a fish or a cat or you.

I have no idea where to start, I mean, it's such a complicated and sometimes sacred topic. I can't really tell you where I stand, I guess it just happens.

Believing in evolution is just that, a belief. It is not a fact. If evolution had been proven why would there be so many against it?
Are there not christian scientists? Like religion, evolution is about believing in it.
With science, you can put bits and pieces together to form your own conclusion. Just like religion. We're all in the same boat.

Grab a paddle. :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

Believing in evolution is just that, a belief. It is not a fact. If evolution had been proven why would there be so many against it?
Are there not christian scientists? Like religion, evolution is about believing in it.
With science, you can put bits and pieces together to form your own conclusion. Just like religion. We're all in the same boat.

Grab a paddle. :jointsmile:

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erm hang on there....

Evolution IS a fact - the reason so many are against it is that it fucks up their world view - so they distort facts. It isn't something that requires you to "beleive in it" - the facts are there, ignore them if you wish.

Only in the United States is evolution even "debated" - you can't compare faith and science that's like Apples & Oranges. In UK Schools this is taught as fact and not mixed up with religion - it is science after all - and not faith.

Of course there are Christian scientists - they tend to accept evolution for the most part as they wouldn't be scientists if they ignored facts. They well well "beleive" that god controls evolution - that's faith, there is no evidence of that.

You need to understand the science behind evolution before you can even begin to argue for or against it. Otherwise you are just a fundamentalist arguing over what you beleive is right.

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

Believing in evolution is just that, a belief. It is not a fact. If evolution had been proven why would there be so many against it?
Are there not christian scientists? Like religion, evolution is about believing in it.
With science, you can put bits and pieces together to form your own conclusion. Just like religion. We're all in the same boat.

Grab a paddle. :jointsmile:

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so, youre saying that we have no facts on either side of the argument. all there is is beleif. good thinking.

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Originally Posted by Delta9 UK

Evolution IS a fact

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evolution is theory; theory based on a preponderance of evidence, but theory none the less. just because a theory is held as truth by the majority does not make it fact. the fanatical followers of science would have us believe that reality is so easily defined, but they all seem to lose sight of the difference between fact and theory.

science has taken on the aspect of religion and has become just as dangerous.

any1 who says evolution is a proven fact just is uneducated...sure there is evidence, but do we know for sure??? hellllll no


it takes just as much faith to believe in evolution as it does to believe in something else like creationism


keep in mind i believe in a certain theory of evolution so im not biased...im just saying be careful if you think it is proven fact

Agreed, while this is a lot more evidence for evolution as a theory rather then creationism, it still isn't proven. Fact and theory are very diffrent

Evolution has been documented... Obviously Noah didn't bring poodles and chihuahuas onto the ark with him, right? ;P So it's just a matter of speculating about how much evolution has taken place.

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evolution is theory;

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So is gravity.

And evolution is a proven fact. Why do you think so much money is put into finding new drugs to fight bacteria. They evolve. One years flu strain is not the same as the next years.

"According to a study by Paul Bell, published in the UK Mensa Magazine in 2002, there is an inverse correlation between religiosity and intelligence. A letter published in Nature in 1998 reported a survey suggesting that belief in a personal God or afterlife was at an all time low among the members of the National Academy of Science, only 7.0% of which believed in a personal God as compared to more than 85% of the US general population.[73]"

-from wikipedia