i earlier started a thread about dutches and i wanted tips to roll them..well i rolled my first one yesterday with some good middies, and it was amazing, i did everything i was told, i foudn the seem fine, but i did have some trouble gettin the leaf off, near the tip i couldnt find the beggining, but i foudn it and it was all good..then i foudn the seem and gutted it, then ripped off the glue paper..then i rolled the blunt..it came out a lil loose and sloppy, buti wraped the leaf tight and it looked perfect and was really tight, it was the best blunt i have ever had!