How do you get bud out of your system

[whats good]

I have been interviewing quite a bit lately for companies and I know it is only a matter of time before I have to take the famous DRUG TEST to get the job cause most companies these days do a drug test.. I smoke about 1 joint every other day or a half of joint every day and when I roll I don't use a lot of bud. Some people have said this is not a lot of smoking but when you have to take a drug test I get a little nervous. I work out 3-4 days a week I do weights and then follow up with stairmaster or eliptical trainer for 45 minutes and I drink lots of water but I still have my concerns. So if you guys know of some good stuff that they sale at GNC or nutrition world that would help in passing a drug test I would really appreciate it.

Thanks peeps:rastasmoke: :rastasmoke:

[The Colonel]

there are lots of detox drinks at
GNC and other kinds of stores like that
but im not sure what they're called.
id recommend just stick to working out
and drinking lots of water. last year when
i was on probation i smoked on a sunday
afternoon, and passed at test the following
wednesday but just drinking tons of water

[Samwhore]

pills dont really work, some say they do, some say they dont.
just keep drinking a lot of water and keep working out, dont smoke for the time being and you should be good:thumbsup:

[Prunedale]

Cranberry Juice and Sweat.
Go running, have sex, ya know active life..
Stop smoking hehe. Not sure if you've done that yet..
Just get an herbal drink when you have to pee and you should be ok.
Large bottle fruit punch yuk taste down it all pee peee pee flush and you're ready. Making sure to follow directions for sure... And perhaps not smoking just for better measures the day of and the day before. Nice avatar that you?? (for the hijak)

[...gas...]

just don't use it for awhile:rasta:

[r00tdoctor]

You could always borrow someone elses urine if its a urine test (someone thats clean) , store urine in your fridge till the visit let it site one counter till it reaches room tempature then use those chemical hand warming packs they sell in the hunting/sporting section of walmart to keep the urine warm during ur hostpital visit.

If it is a mouth swab , try not to smoke for 4 or 5 days before the test and you should be good to go.

[dawninthemorning]

4 times or more a week is considered a heavy user. If you are in need of a job, I wouldn't chance it. Substitution is the way to go. I use synthetic, because I don't have anyone close that would have clean urine I could use. urineluck.com is where you can get quick fix.

[FakeBoobsRule]

Aerobic exercise is great. It will help increase fat cell turnover. Drinking lots of water days before the test isn't going to help. Sweating does nothing. Cranberry juice does nothing. Niacin does nothing. Vinegar does nothing. Souble fiber like Metamucil can help a little too. Try to take 6 capsules at a time 2-4 times a day. If that is your body in the pic, yeah I would say you work out a lot.

[getupoffme]

my friend whom was on probation, used something called Covert Labs Strip NCâ?¢ One Cleansing Softgel. i bought one on tuesday and i have a drug test tomorrow. he got piss tested every month and passed everytime, with the help of this pill. he smoked everyday and he also used cocaine on a daily basis. i suggest buying it, just read the directions carefully and you SHOULD pass the test. i have mine tomorrow so i will definitely let you know how it goes.

good luck! here's the pill, it's sold at GNC and it's 30 bucks. you also get your money back if you fail the test. [Commercial link removed]

[FakeBoobsRule]

Yeah, there are people who have used that Strip NC and passed, some have failed too.

[whats good]

Thank you Thank you Thank you for all the information,, Greatttttttt,, absolutely greattttttttt,,

and getupoffme I am going to get that stuff when the time comes,,

[RIH]

Aerobic exercise is great. It will help increase fat cell turnover. Drinking lots of water days before the test isn't going to help. Sweating does nothing. Cranberry juice does nothing. Niacin does nothing. Vinegar does nothing. Souble fiber like Metamucil can help a little too. Try to take 6 capsules at a time 2-4 times a day. If that is your body in the pic, yeah I would say you work out a lot.


You have no idea what you're talking about. Water does help, cranberry juice helps and sweating helps.

I was a heavy pot smoker for a few YEARS, got a court notice to appear, and just by sweating, drinking water and cranberry juice, I cleaned my system in 12 days...that's not easy to do for someone who smoked for years without stopping.

Plus, my dad had random drug tests for work and he'd be fired on the spot if he failed...so he drank lots of cranberry juice before they'd give him a test, and guess what? He's had the job for 20+ years.

[FakeBoobsRule]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Water does help, cranberry juice helps and sweating helps.

I was a heavy pot smoker for a few YEARS, got a court notice to appear, and just by sweating, drinking water and cranberry juice, I cleaned my system in 12 days...that's not easy to do for someone who smoked for years without stopping.

Plus, my dad had random drug tests for work and he'd be fired on the spot if he failed...so he drank lots of cranberry juice before they'd give him a test, and guess what? He's had the job for 20+ years.

Actually I do and I will show you why without hesitation . First of all, THC is fat soluble, not water soluble. You can't flood your body with water or fluids and clean it out like you would pressure wash your driveway. The rate at which THC metabolites are eliminated in urine is governed by your kidneys' glomerular filtration rate. Once properly hydrated, you cannot increase the GFR by increasing fluid intake. If you keep drinking and drinking fluids and your body didn't regulate itself, you would die. To control this, your kidneys will pull water from the body and eliminate it to make up for the excess fluids you are drinking. During this whole process, you will not make your kidneys work better because you are taking in excess fluids and going to the bathroom more often. You did not increase how effective your kidneys are eliminating THC metabolites from the blood. All you did was increase the amount of water in your urine.

When you drink a lot of fluids on the day of the test, this is know as the dilution method. You are not passing the test because you cleaned your body of THC metabolites. What you have done is you have decreased the concentration of THC metabolites in the urine by increasing water. Most drug tests are not zero tolerance. Most drug tests use a cutoff on immunoassay of 50 ng of THC metabolites per ml of urine. Some tests will use a different cutoff but we will stick to this one. If you increase the mls of urine your body is prducing an hour, your THC metabolite concentration will drop. For example, if your body is eliminating 25,000 ng of THC metabolites an hour and 50 mls of urine an hour, your THC concentration is 25,000 divided by 50 mls for a level of 500 ng/ml. That would be a failure. If you take in excess fluids on the day of the test and produce 500 mls of urine an hour your concentration is now 25,000 divided by 500 for a level of 50ng/ml.

Your dad passed because he diluted, not because he cleaned himself out. He increased the amount of fluid in his urine and the concentration of THC metabolites dropped. Same amount of THC metabolites were there when he got to work that day, only after being told of the drug test, he increased fluid intake, increased fluid in the urine, drop in concentration. Cranberry juice is a mild diuretic and also has mild anti-septic properties in the urinary tract (why women subject to frequent urinary tract infections sometimes drink a lot of cranberry juice). It doesn't clean you out though.

Some THC metabolites are eliminated through sweating but very very little. Most THC metabolites are actually eliminated from your body by your liver, bile, and feces. Aerobic exercise can help you burn more THC metabolites from your body because THC is fat soluble and if you increase fat cell turnover, this can help. So it is the aerobic exercise burning calories that is important, not the sweat you get from the aerobics.

RIH, have you taken any advanced level college classes on the human body?

Anyway, thank you for playing human physiology.

[birdgirl73]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

RIH, you just received very patient, thorough information from the one person on these boards who knows more about drug testing, lab results, and human medical-lab physiology than anyone else who frequents this place. Feel free to read his past posts or look at his profile if you'd like more of a hint as to just how well qualified he is. He frankly deserves your gratitude--if not your unmitigated awe--rather than your claims that he doesn't know what he's talking about. He does indeed know. Seems to me you were very lucky that he even took the time to explain it so graciously to you after your response to him.

[Jaerl]

Wow....

Thank you FakeBoobsRule, yer post helped me alot even though i didnt post about it..

Rep. points 4 u:thumbsup:

[FakeBoobsRule]

Look at his profile if you'd like more of a hint as to just how well qualified he is. He frankly deserves your gratitude--if not your unmitigated awe--rather than your claims that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Birdgirl, you're awesome! I would rep you but I gotta spread it around first. Thanks angel.

[birdgirl73]

Anytime, my friend. Much respect to you!

[whats good]

Woooooooohh love this information,, thanks guys

[FakeBoobsRule]

Ok, you wanna get THC out of your system? All u need are 3 things, A diuretic(water, tea, gatorade), niacin, and access to a sauna. Keep drinking lots fluids, preferably the aforementioned drinks. Hit the sauna at least twice a day, the more the better/faster. Before u hop in take two niacin(1000mg). Once u start to feel it, hop in the sauna for at least 20 min. The longer the better. Remember to keep hydrated!
Niacin opens your blood vessels, even the tiniest capillaries will see a 100% increase in blood flow. The sauna will make u sweat, a lot, raise your metabolism, raise your BP and heart rate. This combined with the extra blood flow, will clean u up quick. It will seroiusly dehydrate u though, so drink a lot and piss a lot. Its not a bad idea to take some aspirin, too, having thin blood is easy on everything.
Oh, where to start. So many things, so much bad advice. First, your take aspirin because it thins your blood. Although aspirin is called a "blood thinner" guess what. It does not change the viscosity of the blood whatsoever. It affects clotting times but not if your blood is thick like cake batter or thin like water. Aspirin on the day of the test is useful depending on what brand of immunoassay is used, but not because it thins your blood and makes it easier on your body.

Very little THC is eliminated through sweat. Sweating is your body's respond to increased body temperature or being nervous. A huge waste of time.

Niacin is an urban legend that does nothing. Some people will swear by it but they usually are using the dilution method as well. To conduct any valid scientific experiment, you can only change one variable. Two variable scientific experiments are useless.

[whats good]

Fakeboobs u are awesome, that is all I can say about you. I cannot thank you enough for your knowledge and information you have provided us.

You rule Fakeboobs

[FakeBoobsRule]

Ok, ok...let's all try and keep our heads cool. This isnt a scientific experiment, it's just wut works for me. The sauna is a proven detox method, nuf said.
Actually, just because you say it does doesn't make it true. If you knew about THC elimination from the human body, you would know the two main pathways are the liver and kidneys. I like to work on facts and not guessing.


Niacin, by it's very definiton of effects on you will expedite the detox process.(yes, i "swear by it")
That made no sense at all. Niacin is a myth.


Also, i know, aspirin doesn't change the viscosity of blood, it inhibits red blood cells to stick together. But the since this isnt a American Medical Association forum, i figured most people would be ok with "blood thinner". N e ways, this is wut works for me, everyone is different,and thats wut makes this world so lovely. peace.
Well if you know aspirin doesn't thin the blood why would you say thin blood makes everything easier? That didn't make much sense either.

[invision]

ok, dr fakeboobs or wutever wut name is,...you're right, im wrong, you know everything, and everyone else knows nothing.(thats wut u guys like 2 hear, right?) But let me just say one thing. Im rubber, your glue, wutever u say bounces off me and sticks to you. Have a nice life. peace

give it up man you need water and a vit-b2 pill and that is it, workout in the meantime and you will pass your test no doubt.

[FakeBoobsRule]

"If something is locked up in your fat, the niacin releases it into your circulation," said Clark Carr, president of Narconon International and a Scientologist. The sauna then "sweats the drugs out".
Well you have now done a little research but not enough. L Ron Hubbard is exactly who started the myth of niacin and saunas many many years ago. He thought that vitamins will detox anyone of anything. He had no proof and experiments since then have showed he was wrong. He then went on to start the religous group, or cult known as Scientology. Hubbard also claims to be an expert in fields from archaeology to flying to marine navigator to film maker to criminal reform to at least 10 other fields. Did he have any medical training? I don't think he has any medical training whatsoever. So this Clark Carr is just carrying the myth started by Hubbard. What do you expect, he is a member of this cult. One of their greatest members is that couch jumping fool Tom Cruise. He told Brooke Shields the same thing about post pardom depression, that all she needs is exercise and vitamins. Ask any woman who has suffered from post pardom depression and she if she thinks vitamins and exercise would have cured her. All you have done is found out who started the myth and now you are putting all your eggs in their basket. Do some research on Scientology and you will see how many of their medical beliefs are wrong. Go ahead and trust passing a drug test to Tom Cruise and his leaders.

[Burnt Toast]

FBR is correct in stating that the sauna/niacin myth originates from the "study" Hubbard conducted over 40 years ago. Hubbards "study", however, was centered around the use of a certain (off-topic) hallucinogenic drug and the attempted prevention of flashbacks that ran rampant at the time. Hubbard claimed that ingesting niacin and sitting in a sauna would, in time, remove the residues of the drug and prevent flashbacks. As FBR pointed out, there hasnt been a shred of scientific evidence that can substantiate Hubbards claim.

Then somewhere down the line some "brilliant" pothead, obviously acting under a garbled understanding, took the claim ..."Hey, if this gets rid of (off-topic) hallucinogenic residues, it must also get rid of THC residues"..What needs to be understood is that drug tests look for drug metabolites - not residues.
The myth had been born.

And a myth that still persists today because of people that have taken niacin before a drug test and passed, only to not realize that it was the large amounts of water that was consumed with the niacin that brought the urine sample under the tests cutoff limit, thus a pass. The niacin was wrongly given credit when the real hero was the water.

Hope this helps to debunk the niacin myth.

[sheist]

hahaha rnw got PWNED! yes with the P.. FakeBoobs can pass a test with a lit blunt and prove it! however i dont mean to stalk you Boobies, but whats up with my high-fiber to laxative idea? How effective do you think that could work, i never got a definite answer from ya? High fiber diet combined with soluble fiber lyk metamucile, then topped off with a lax to expedite the results and repeat (all the while staying properly nurished and hydrated so as to not kill myself or my organs). Aerobic exercise would help but that would have to be started in advance, right? not for someone who's like a few days due?? Also, alot of people press to use water to dilute their samples, but it clears out... is it more possible/helpful/reasonable to use another liquid like gatorade or OJ or Hawaiian Punch, etc..??? what do ya think??

[jkfoster]

hey just wondering how your drug test went? Today is Saturday and I have a drug test Monday. Do you still recommend this product?

[cheifNonHaze]

How to pass a drug test in a week:
1.Dont smoke a week before your drug test
2.increase your water intake to 60-90 ounces a day
3.Eat more fruits and veggies they have antioxidants which detox
4.Drink cranberry juice and orange juice every morning and night
5.3 days before your test take 2-4 niacin pills (time released not flush free) those 3 nights before bed
6.If you go to walgreens you can get a 7day detox kit for 12 bucks it helps and its cheap
7.Work out run and exercise it only stays in your system for 30 days if your fucking fat and lazy its called sacrifice
8.an hour before your test get a detox drink either STRIP or Clear Choice
-----you should pass by following this i get drug test every 3 weeks and always pass

other things that help is : Acai pills blueberry pills and green tea extract:rastasmoke:

[Burnt Toast]

How to pass a drug test in a week:
1.Dont smoke a week before your drug test A good idea. Actually the longer the better.

2.increase your water intake to 60-90 ounces a dayDrinking fluids is only helpful on the day of the U/A. Drinking fluids days before the test is useless. See post #13 on page 1 of this thread.

3.Eat more fruits and veggies they have antioxidants which detox Antioxidants have no effect on THC.

4.Drink cranberry juice and orange juice every morning and nightAgain, drinking fluids days before the U/A is useless.

5.3 days before your test take 2-4 niacin pills (time released not flush free) those 3 nights before bedAgain niacin is a myth. It does nothing to help pass a U/A. See posts #19, #23, and #24 on page 1 of this thread.

6.If you go to walgreens you can get a 7day detox kit for 12 bucks it helps and its cheap"Detox" kits work via the dilution factor which, like its been already stated, is only helpful on the day of the U/A. Dont fall for such claims as "7-day detox" or the like, as they are nothing but sales pitches designed to separate the credulous from their cash.

7.Work out run and exercise it only stays in your system for 30 days if your fucking fat and lazy its called sacrificeThe 30-day rule does not apply to everyone. Its not all uncommon for a longtime heavy user to take 60 days or more to rid the body of THC. Exercising does help, but if a person is still failing home tests, and have only 0-3 days before the scheduled U/A, all exercising needs to stop. The reason is THC is stored in the fat cells. When fat cells burn, the THC metabolites get released back into the bloodstream and end up in the urine. You want to be lazy as possible to avoid excreting THC on the day of the U/A.


8.an hour before your test get a detox drink either STRIP or Clear Choice Detox drinks are nothing but overpriced diluters, because they work via the dilution factor.


you should pass by following this i get drug test every 3 weeks and always passWhat may work for you may not work for others. You passed because youve diluted the concentration of THC metabolites in your bladder enough to register below the cutoff thresholds of the drug screen. The same thing can be accomplished for $$$ less by following the Dilution sticky.


other things that help is : Acai pills blueberry pills and green tea extract Has no effect on THC. There is no product, nothing that can rid the body of THC. Only time and fat burning exercise can do that.

In the drug testing forum, we like to keep things factual. Drug testing is a serious issue. Non-facts and unsubstantiated info is not welcome here when careers and freedoms are at stake.

[Stigma420247]

Aerobic exercise is great. It will help increase fat cell turnover. Drinking lots of water days before the test isn't going to help. Sweating does nothing. Cranberry juice does nothing. Niacin does nothing. Vinegar does nothing. Souble fiber like Metamucil can help a little too. Try to take 6 capsules at a time 2-4 times a day. If that is your body in the pic, yeah I would say you work out a lot.



how do u know this?

u say that sweating wont help BUT u say to do aerobics and work out?!?! ummm if thc is in yer fat i would think that BURNING fat would help remove it from your system...and in order to burn fat u MUST sweat...u are NOT going to burn fat at effective rate unless u are sweating..and sweat ALSO removes toxins from your body (thc IS a toxin) ....why does metamucil help??? cause it makes u shit??? well so does cranberry juice...and so does green tea....

im not tryin to call u out individually i just find that a lot of people post on these threads with NO real knowledge of what they are talking about...and incorrect info is worse than no info at all...

[VapedG13]

THC stores in the fat cells.....a fat person will retain THC longer than a skinny person... it depends on your body and how heavy you smoke as to how long the THC will remain

[Burnt Toast]

u say that sweating wont help BUT u say to do aerobics and work out?!?! ummm if thc is in yer fat i would think that BURNING fat would help remove it from your system...and in order to burn fat u MUST sweat...u are NOT going to burn fat at effective rate unless u are sweating..and sweat ALSO removes toxins from your body (thc IS a toxin) THC is non-toxic. Therefore its erroneous to categorize THC as a "toxin".

Sweating does not help because very little THC is excreted through sweat. You could burn every fat cell in your body and fill up a water tower with your sweat, the amount of THC excreted through the sweat will still remain miniscule.

[Stigma420247]

and u know this how?

[Burnt Toast]

By doing extensive research. And you can do it too.

You can begin by utilizing your favorite online search engine.

[FakeBoobsRule]

how do u know this?


and u know this how?

Damn dude you say that a lot. Instead of asking questions then responding with a canned response like that try the search feature like BurntToast said. All these questions you are asking have been asked and answered a billion and one times. I like to help people but damn if I don't hate to spoon feed people the answer and hold their hand through the whole process.


u say that sweating wont help BUT u say to do aerobics and work out?!?! ummm if thc is in yer fat i would think that BURNING fat would help remove it from your system...and in order to burn fat u MUST sweat

Wrong. You don't have to sweat to burn calories. Sweating doesn't measure calories burned. Ask someone on a hunger strike if they are burning calories and how much they are sweating. Ask Michael Phelps how much he sweats when he's in the pool doing laps. Ask someone who runs in the summer and runs in the winter. Sweating is the body's response to increased body temp and nervous reaction. Weight loss is a simple equation calories used must be greater than calorie intake. In fact you burn more calories in cold weather than warm weather because you burn calories to stay warm.


. ...u are NOT going to burn fat at effective rate unless u are sweating

You know this how? Or should I say where did you get that shit from? It's wrong wrong wrong dead wrong. Sweating, basal metabolic rate, heart rate,T max, exercise duration, external temperature, take all that together and you will find that using the amount of sweat is not a good measure of how effective you are burning calories is wrong.


..and sweat ALSO removes toxins from your body (thc IS a toxin)

Sweating also removes water, sodium, chloride, urea, sebrum, etc etc etc. Are all those toxic too????

Next 4-8 hours after consuming THC it is no longer THC in the body but converted to about 30-50 metabolites. THC is not a toxin. It might be forgein to your body but it is not a toxin. Might as well sign up for the goon squad at your local police station and start calling marijuana an epidemic that is killing America. :rolleyes:

Next you need to understand that the body has many was to eliminate substances from itself. While sweating does eliminate or release THC metabolites, (again THC metabolites, not toxins) it is not the preferred pathway. Around 2% of metabolites are eliminated from the skin. About 2/3 of THC metabolites are released through hepatic elimination and about 1/3 is released by renal elimination. Any more info you want on this you should use the search feature.


.....why does metamucil help??? cause it makes u shit??? well so does cranberry juice...and so does green tea....

Just to keep this short, Search feature, cranberry juice has very little laxative effect as well as green tea.



im not tryin to call u out individually i just find that a lot of people post on these threads with NO real knowledge of what they are talking about...and incorrect info is worse than no info at all...

Well you might not be trying to call me out but you are showing me that you have done very little research in these forums. Look at my title and stats then scroll down the drug testing forum index and see how many threads there are requesting my help on drug testing. Hell look at the first page of this thread and you will see I know what I'm talking about.


hahaha rnw got PWNED! yes with the P.. FakeBoobs can pass a test with a lit blunt and prove it!


RIH, you just received very patient, thorough information from the one person on these boards who knows more about drug testing, lab results, and human medical-lab physiology than anyone else who frequents this place. Feel free to read his past posts or look at his profile if you'd like more of a hint as to just how well qualified he is. He frankly deserves your gratitude--if not your unmitigated awe--rather than your claims that he doesn't know what he's talking about. He does indeed know. Seems to me you were very lucky that he even took the time to explain it so graciously to you after your response to him.

[Burnt Toast]

Next 4-8 hours after consuming THC it is no longer THC in the body but converted to about 30-50 metabolites. THC is not a toxin. It might be forgein to your body but it is not a toxin. Might as well sign up for the goon squad at your local police station and start calling marijuana a epidemic that is killing America. :rolleyes:
I coudnt have said that better myself. Well put, FBR. :thumbsup:

[Stigma420247]

well i dont know how to multi-quote so i will just answer the questions u asked in the order u asked them ...


u said :
"Damn dude you say that a lot. Instead of asking questions then responding with a canned response like that try the search feature like BurntToast said. All these questions you are asking have been asked and answered a billion and one times. I like to help people but damn if I don't hate to spoon feed people the answer and hold their hand through the whole process."

my answer:

i do ask "how do u know that" a lot...because i am at risk of going to jail if i fail a test...and i require a little more than "word of mouth" for PROOF that what u are saying is accurate...call me anal if u want id rather be SAFE than sorry...

and if u dont want to "spoon feed" anyone then dont...i dont remember anyone MAKING u reply to any of these threads...

i DO appreciate your replies (a lot)...i just want a little explanation to the replies u give...if thats too much to ask then by all means dont explain your answer..thats your decision to make....like i said i just want to make sure this information is ACCURATE...

you said :

"Wrong. You don't have to sweat to burn calories. Sweating doesn't measure calories burned. Ask someone on a hunger strike if they are burning calories and how much they are sweating. Ask Michael Phelps how much he sweats when he's in the pool doing laps. Ask someone who runs in the summer and runs in the winter. Sweating is the body's response to increased body temp and nervous reaction. Weight loss is a simple equation calories used must be greater than calorie intake. In fact you burn more calories in cold weather than warm weather because you burn calories to stay warm."

my answer:
ok i always thought that if u are working hard and sweating alot your body was burning fat and releasing toxins at a faster rate than if u where lightly working out and not sweating ...this i could be wrong on...i did ASSUME this and i apologize.. but i do wonder why people use sauna's? i was under the impression the sweating released "foreign chemicals" from the body by doing this..if it doesnt then what is the point in a sauna???



u said:
Wrong. You don't have to sweat to burn calories. Sweating doesn't measure calories burned. Ask someone on a hunger strike if they are burning calories and how much they are sweating. Ask Michael Phelps how much he sweats when he's in the pool doing laps. Ask someone who runs in the summer and runs in the winter. Sweating is the body's response to increased body temp and nervous reaction. Weight loss is a simple equation calories used must be greater than calorie intake. In fact you burn more calories in cold weather than warm weather because you burn calories to stay warm.


my answer :


the reason i thought that u needed to sweat to burn calories is because i JUST watched a program with an olympic gold medalist who said (and i quote) "if u aint sweating u aint burnin calories" now...when i hear a olympic gold medalist say something i take it a bit more serious than a guy who is posting on a cannabis forum...im not saying u arent educated...im sayin i dont know u well enough to take your word over his


u said:


You know this how? Or should I say where did you get that shit from? It's wrong wrong wrong dead wrong. Sweating, basal metabolic rate, heart rate,T max, exercise duration, external temperature, take all that together and you will find that using the amount of sweat is not a good measure of how effective you are burning calories is wrong.


my response:

read above... i was either misinformed by the program i watched or u are incorrect...i will do the research to figure it out...if i find out that u are right by all means i apologize for this response... and u have the right to say OWNED to me :)

liek i said i came HERE for info ... im no expert.. i can only respond with the info i have... if that info is wrong..i can only apologize for responding with it...


u said:
Sweating also removes water, sodium, chloride, urea, sebrum, etc etc etc. Are all those toxic too????


Next 4-8 hours after consuming THC it is no longer THC in the body but converted to about 30-50 metabolites. THC is not a toxin. It might be forgein to your body but it is not a toxin. Might as well sign up for the goon squad at your local police station and start calling marijuana an epidemic that is killing America.

Next you need to understand that the body has many was to eliminate substances from itself. While sweating does eliminate or release THC metabolites, (again THC metabolites, not toxins) it is not the preferred pathway. Around 2% of metabolites are eliminated from the skin. About 2/3 of THC metabolites are released through hepatic elimination and about 1/3 is released by renal elimination. Any more info you want on this you should use the search feature.


my response:
i smoke weed myself how can u say i should "sign up for a goon squad that says weed is killing americans" .... if a substance that u intake effects your perception of reality, memory, braincells, etc...i assumed it would be considered a toxin.. my bad... assuming is never good... but im glad i did assume it because if i hadnt i probably wouldnt have gotten the response from u to correct me.. like i said im here for INFO..accurate well explained info...


as u can see im a new poster to this site..i do not know your credentials... i mean u have "the rock" as yer avatar...for all i know your a 15 year old kid postin BS... from your response i can see u HAVE researched this quite a bit and once again i do apologize.. i want PROVEN information.. is that too much too ask? if so dont answer...

also now u are saying sweating DOES release these thc metabolites?? which is it?? it does?? or it doesnt??


u said :

Just to keep this short, Search feature, cranberry juice has very little laxative effect as well as green tea.



answer :

i can attest to this being inmcorrect ...i have been drinkin green tea and cranberry juice for the last 2 days (no metamucile)...and i have been shitting WAAAAY more than usual...i can barely leave my damn house man...so how can u say it has very little laxative "effect" it has ALOT of laxative effect...i know this because i have shit 2 times since i started answerin these questions and i have been shitting constantly for the last 48 hours simply because i have been drinking green tea and cran. juice...

u asked:

Well you might not be trying to call me out but you are showing me that you have done very little research in these forums. Look at my title and stats then scroll down the drug testing forum index and see how many threads there are requesting my help on drug testing. Hell look at the first page of this thread and you will see I know what I'm talking about.


my answer: look at my post count... im new...like i said earlier... i dont know u from tom... im not just gonna take your word for it without PROVEN faacts being posted... like i said i dont think thats too much to ask.. .if u think it is than dont answer...





now all that being said... i apologize to u...after reading over more of your post i can see i have judged u before i knew who u where and how educated u are on the subject...i just find it difficult to weed through all the fact/fiction that is posted on this site about getting clean...and u tend to post a lot about it...so naturally i wanted to see some PROOF that what u are saying is indeed true.. im under stress because of this ua crap...and its MY FAULT i put myself in a shitty situation and i am very desperate for a way OUT of that shitty situation ... i should not be taking that out on people trying to lend a helping hand but unfortunately sometimes emotions get in the way... ok...i gotta shit... i hope these answers are sufficient ...and i hope u can understand the reason why i reacted the way i did...

[suzieque]

wow, that was a lot to read :)

Nicely put Burnt Toast and FBR.

Stigma asked also now u are saying sweating DOES release these thc metabolites?? which is it?? it does?? or it doesnt??

Burnt Toast said the release of metabolites thru sweat was miniscule and FBR said 2% or very very little.

The best thing to do is buy those THC tests online for cheap. Test yourself a lot when you are preparing for a drug test. You'll know how much dilution you'll need, if any, or whether or not subbing is the answer.

[Burnt Toast]

now u are saying sweating DOES release these thc metabolites?? which is it?? it does?? or it doesnt??

Hmmm. I dont see anywhere in this thread where FBR had stated that THC is not excreted through the sweat.

[Stigma420247]

well then read it again...

here is the post im speaking of...


"Aerobic exercise is great. It will help increase fat cell turnover. Drinking lots of water days before the test isn't going to help. Sweating does nothing. Cranberry juice does nothing. Niacin does nothing. Vinegar does nothing. Souble fiber like Metamucil can help a little too. Try to take 6 capsules at a time 2-4 times a day. If that is your body in the pic, yeah I would say you work out a lot."


in case u missed it


and from what i read on another thread...in a scientific experiment they tested this and found that sweating DOES release thc...

here is some info Storm Crow supplied...

"Sweat testing is a noninvasive technique for monitoring drug exposure over a 7-day period in treatment, criminal justice, and employment settings. We evaluated Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) excretion in 11 daily cannabis users after cessation of drug use. PharmChek® sweat patches worn for 7 days were analyzed for THC by gas chromatographyâ??mass spectrometry (GC/MS). The limit of quantification (LOQ) for the method was 0.4 ng THC/patch. Sweat patches worn the first week of continuously monitored abstinence had THC above the United States Substance Abuse Mental Health Services Administration's proposed cutoff concentration for federal workplace testing of 1 ng THC/patch. Mean ± S.E.M. THC concentrations were 3.85 ± 0.86 ng THC/patch. Eight of 11 subjects had negative patches the second week and one produced THC positive patches for 4 weeks of monitored abstinence. We also tested daily and weekly sweat patches from seven subjects who were administered oral doses of up to 14.8 mg THC/day for five consecutive days. In this oral THC administration study, no daily or weekly patches had THC above the LOQ; concurrent plasma THC concentrations were all less than 6.1 μg/L. In conclusion, using proposed federal cutoff concentrations, most daily cannabis users will have a positive sweat patch in the first week after ceasing drug use and a negative patch after subsequent weeks, although patches may remain positive for 4 weeks or more. Oral ingestion of up to 14.8 mg THC daily does not produce a THC positive sweat patch test."

:hippy:

[FakeBoobsRule]

Ok here how about this: Sweating does next to nothing to eliminate THC metabolites from your body. Sweating more does even less than next to nothing. Yeah sue me, I left out one word almost 2 years ago. Sorry I didn't spoon feed you "Increased sweating does nothing."

Please learn how to copy the header at the begining of a quote and the footer, that will make your post easier to read.

I also asked you to read the rules. In it it says no posting of email addresses in posts. Now I have to do something.

[Stigma420247]

if sweating does not release a substantial amount of thc how is it being detected 1 - 4 weeks AFTER smoking has stopped???

why is there so much hostility ??

we are all here to learn..working TOGETHER rather than against each other isnt THAT hard...


man are u serious?!?!?!?! i posted my email to a guy that ASKED me for it... my god...are u that immature that u are gonna hold a grudge against me simply because i asked u to provide proof of your statements???? i have apologized to u...and now im starting to regret even caring what u think...i tried to be civilized and hospitable.. u need to lighten up a bit.. im not trying to cause any problems...if u think im THAT bad of a member than by all means ban me... i am trying to contribute just as much as anyone else is..

[FakeBoobsRule]

It's not hostility. It's just matter of fact answers to questions that have been asked a billion times then someone comes along and asks again then follows up with "How do u know this?"

They can detect THC metabolites in 1 & 1/2 inches of hair sometimes as far back as 90 days. Does that mean if you grow your facial hair out and stop waxing your legs then you will get rid of a statistically significant amount of extra THC metabolites? I doubt it.

Why you ask because I'm sure you will. It's called precision and accuracy of lab machines picking up 0.1 picograms of THC-COOH in 1 mg of hair. Do you understand how miniscule that is?

I hope you read about not posting your email address.

[FakeBoobsRule]

man are u serious?!?!?!?! i posted my email to a guy that ASKED me for it... my god...are u that immature that u are gonna hold a grudge against me simply because i asked u to provide proof of your statements???? i have apologized to u...and now im starting to regret even caring what u think...i tried to be civilized and hospitable.. u need to lighten up a bit.. im not trying to cause any problems...if u think im THAT bad of a member than by all means ban me... i am trying to contribute just as much as anyone else is..

So if someone asks for something then it's ok. Damn I wish that worked with cops, "Officer, but he asked me to smoke this great pot with him."

I have learned that no good deed goes unpunished. I gave you a verbal warning istead of a permenant record on your profile and asked you to read the rules. That was going light on you. See no good deed goes unpunished as you continued to break the rules. I guess you didn't read them and now you want me to lighten up. I did and that didn't work. I knew that it would come back to haunt me.

[Stigma420247]

there is a bit of a difference between posting a email address and BREAKING THE LAW ... why would u even compare the 2??? either way... i am not here to constantly bicker back and forth like children...im here to learn...i will make sure to read the rules VERY CLOSELY just to make sure i can learn in peace... sorry to make your internet forum moderation job so difficult... it wont happen again officer...

[Burnt Toast]

The patch tests described in Storm Crows post clearly indicates the fact that only a small amount of THC metabolites are excreted through the sweat....


We evaluated Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) excretion in 11 daily cannabis users after cessation of drug use. PharmChek® sweat patches worn for 7 days were analyzed for THC by gas chromatographyâ??mass spectrometry (GC/MS). The limit of quantification (LOQ) for the method was 0.4 ng THC/patch. Sweat patches worn the first week of continuously monitored abstinence had THC above the United States Substance Abuse Mental Health Services Administration's proposed cutoff concentration for federal workplace testing of 1 ng THC/patch. Mean ± S.E.M. THC concentrations were 3.85 ± 0.86 ng THC/patch.

Mean ± S.E.M. THC concentrations of 3.85 ± 0.86 ng is only a small amount.


if sweating does not release a substantial amount of thc how is it being detected 1 - 4 weeks AFTER smoking has stopped??? The answer to that is simple: The devices used for detection (sweat patch) utilize a low cutoff range....as evidenced in Storm Crows post....


The limit of quantification (LOQ) for the method was 0.4 ng THC/patch. Sweat patches worn the first week of continuously monitored abstinence had THC above the United States Substance Abuse Mental Health Services Administration's proposed cutoff concentration for federal workplace testing of 1 ng THC/patch.

Sweat patch tests utilize a low cutoff limit for the reason that only a small amount of THC is excreted through sweat.

[Stigma420247]

ok...well..with that information i myself will be trying to sweat more when i work out...every little bit counts...especially when your smoking small amounts of weed over long periods of time... i would think that if its releasing thc from the body it would be a smart thing to do... thats just me though...

[Burnt Toast]

Youre still not understanding the whole process Stig.

Even when your working out and sweating, the quantity of THC metabolites excreting through the sweat will still be a small amount. The remainder of the THC metabolites are being excreted via the urine and bowels.

By doing a search on THC metabolism, utilizing your favorite online search engine, you'll see what we mean.

[clockhart]

I've been a marijuana smoker for almost 20 years, I was a 3 to 5 joints kind of guy, going through about a half ounce in a month. I have totally quit and its 3 weeks now. I'm doing this because I have a job offer and they drug test. I know THC stays in your fat cells for a long time. I'm roughly 160pound, 5 feet 11 inches and skinny. I have always had a very high metabolism.

I am doing everything ive read to get the THC out of my system asap.

I work 9 hours a day walking a lot, lifting, pushing, pulling items all day long plus I walk to work everyday aprox 10 min walk. I have always been a huge water drinker and aprox. drink about 8 to 10 500ml of water a day. Also have started putting lemons in my water.

I am going to the gym and running/walking the track, swimming a lot and hitting the whirlpool and 2 -20min sauna sessions. Today I took 2 500ml of "Jamieson" brand of niacin. I felt the burn big time!!!! Then went to the gym once it kicked in and did 3 10 to 15 min sessions in the sauna. I am going to the bathroom ALOT and it comes out clear.
Am I doing everything I should? Aprox how long do you think till it will be 100000% out of my system?

Please help

[Burnt Toast]

I am going to the gym and running/walking the track, swimming a lot and hitting the whirlpool and 2 -20min sauna sessions. Today I took 2 500ml of "Jamieson" brand of niacin. I felt the burn big time!!!! Then went to the gym once it kicked in and did 3 10 to 15 min sessions in the sauna. I am going to the bathroom ALOT and it comes out clear.
Am I doing everything I should? Nope, youre not.

Reread the thread to find out why..

[clockhart]

soo please tell me what else I should be doing......

and how long do you think till i'll be clean?

[Burnt Toast]

soo please tell me what else I should be doing...... For a start, pick up a THC test kit and test yourself so you have a better idea on where you stand.

When testing yourself, be sure to use the first urination of the day.


and how long do you think till i'll be clean? Theres no telling because each persons body is different and there are too many variables to take into consideration. Only periodic testing with a THC test kit can give you that answer.