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lazy smoker7
03-13-2007, 12:56 PM
wth... look at this websight.... Marijuana: Pros and cons >> Medical Questions, Weight Loss, Pregnancy, Drugs, Health Insurance (http://www.steadyhealth.com/articles/Marijuana__Pros_and_cons_a67_f0.html)

near the end of the article it says a human can die from ingesting 21 grams of pot... but they made that conclusion on rats... but i thought there was another study that rats actually lived longer with THC? now i dont understand how those rats died... it said they used inhalation so that means that they smoked out the rats? Well they probably died because they were smoked out to death ... not from the THC... they also saying withdraw symptoms of weed are nausea which is wrong also because ive never felt nausea from weed ever! it makes nausea go away.... Why cant these websight get their facts right?

Storm Crow
03-13-2007, 01:22 PM
Lies are so much more dramatic! And much easier to create. And if the sheeple believe you, so much the better. Sheeple who are afraid and ignorant are SO much easier to control! Educate yourself in all ways possible! - Granny:hippy:

make it legal
03-13-2007, 01:24 PM
Yeah they might have died from oxygen deprivation. And it's not 21 grams at all in rats it's like i forget how many pounds, and within 15 minutes. I believe you need to smoke an eighth a second for 15 minutes to OD, which is impossible because even if you wanted to try this, you would first die of oxygen deprivation.

Plastic Jesus
03-13-2007, 01:28 PM
Ingesting as in eating?

Plastic Jesus
03-13-2007, 01:38 PM
Look at the comments...

Nation_1ne
03-13-2007, 02:00 PM
It's not as if people don't lie about the pro's of weed.

jokeyjokejoke
03-13-2007, 02:07 PM
It's not as if people don't lie about the pro's of weed.

Aint that the truth.

Zimzum
03-13-2007, 02:55 PM
I don't think anyone would take 21grams of high potency to the head. You would probably pass out well before the half way point. And when they say "high potency" how high is that? 30%+ THC?

Pezzo
03-13-2007, 03:31 PM
Yeah they might have died from oxygen deprivation. And it's not 21 grams at all in rats it's like i forget how many pounds, and within 15 minutes. I believe you need to smoke an eighth a second for 15 minutes to OD, which is impossible because even if you wanted to try this, you would first die of oxygen deprivation.

1500 pounds in 15 mins << well humans

Nochowderforyou
03-13-2007, 03:31 PM
Towards the bottom it says the rats died of inhaling the cannabis. It goes on to say, if converted to human weight, a 75kg person, would die from injesting 21 grams.

How can they know the conversion to smoking vs. eating it? :wtf:

Either way, I don't think anyone would die by eating 21 g's of cannabis.

not_the_kitty
03-13-2007, 03:32 PM
If they need a human test "rat" I would be more than wiling to try and smoke 21 grams any day...a long as someone else buys it!

Weedhound
03-13-2007, 05:27 PM
LD 50 on rats..666mg/kg. LD 50 on mice....486mg/kg. You guys need to do a little more reading.

Oneironaut
03-13-2007, 05:41 PM
Of course you can die from pot. If you buy an ounce of weed and shove all the buds down your throat, you could suffocate.

chisme
03-13-2007, 05:50 PM
thier pull on glycoma:

This disease is caused by increased pressure in the eyeball, which can lead to vision loss and complete blindness. But, experts in this field discovered that smoking marijuana reduced pressure in the eyes. The exact reason is still unknown.



^^^ well i think its pretty obvious to any "stoner" when you get red eye its the blood vessels in your eyes opening up as cannabis is a muscle relaxent, thus making it easier for the blood to pass as pressure would be released

Weedhound
03-13-2007, 05:54 PM
Excellent point Chisme. You can die from too much of anything. Some of these folks have a point....no one's going to ingest an oz or something... but so many people want to forget that it is a drug.....like any other drug....side effects and all. I sometimes wonder if people just WANT to believe it's harmless because they use it.

PS I use my share of it too....alot....but I know better than to say it is harmless.

Reefer Rogue
03-13-2007, 06:07 PM
I can't be bothered to sign up to that site but this is what i would've posted:

It is physically impossible to overdose from smoking cannabis therefore it makes it SAFER then alcohol and tobacco. Those LEGAL drugs KILL hundreds of thousands of people a year, that is a FACT. I wish freedom to all the non violent cannabis users who are being imprisoned for executing their free will by consuming a plant which causes no harm and or suffering to anyone. LEGALIZE!

Plastic Jesus
03-13-2007, 08:05 PM
well i think its pretty obvious to any "stoner" when you get red eye its the blood vessels in your eyes opening up as cannabis is a muscle relaxent, thus making it easier for the blood to pass as pressure would be released

I have had laser surgery on my left eye and am scheduled for it on my right at the end of the month because of Glaucoma. Glaucoma is simply "elevated eye pressure". I had a reaction to a topical steroid which had caused a slight bit of permanent damage and an elevated pressure which caused a tempoary loss of vision.

Redness and reduced pressure are not directly related, ie red eyes have nothing to do with lower eye pressures. I smoke daily and never get red eyes. There are numerous factors that can attribute to "elevated eye pressure". Furthermore, it is not blood that builds up pressure but more of a water substance.

Think of the eye as a sink. Water is on, drain is draining. With glaucoma, you could have a clogged drain, or a faucet that is on "too much" ie overflowing=high pressure. I am not sure if weed "slows down the water" or "unclogs the drain"....

My eye Dr. told me I have really big pupils...

xxxhazexxx
03-13-2007, 08:16 PM
load of bollocks thats all i can say

Skink
03-13-2007, 08:33 PM
they are just a website and really have no validity...

lazy smoker7
03-14-2007, 11:42 AM
LD 50 on rats..666mg/kg. LD 50 on mice....486mg/kg. You guys need to do a little more reading.

I thought they could not find an LD 50 for rats by injecting it with THC.... and by any chance does any one know whats the most bud any one has consumed ever? like the world record? I mean if I decided to orally consume an ounce of cooked bud... like would any one have any idea what it would feal like? :stoned:

Markass
03-14-2007, 11:48 AM
I believe the actual toxicology of cannabis is very difficult to achieve in the first place...something like a 150 pound person 1500 pounds of cannabis smoked or ingested within 15 minutes...not gonna happen for anyone. Not even jesus could do that.

chisme
03-14-2007, 07:09 PM
I have had laser surgery on my left eye and am scheduled for it on my right at the end of the month because of Glaucoma. Glaucoma is simply "elevated eye pressure". I had a reaction to a topical steroid which had caused a slight bit of permanent damage and an elevated pressure which caused a tempoary loss of vision.

Redness and reduced pressure are not directly related, ie red eyes have nothing to do with lower eye pressures. I smoke daily and never get red eyes. There are numerous factors that can attribute to "elevated eye pressure". Furthermore, it is not blood that builds up pressure but more of a water substance.

Think of the eye as a sink. Water is on, drain is draining. With glaucoma, you could have a clogged drain, or a faucet that is on "too much" ie overflowing=high pressure. I am not sure if weed "slows down the water" or "unclogs the drain"....

My eye Dr. told me I have really big pupils...


well ok ok mate im no doc beleive me i was just putting a reply to what it described glycoma as on that site, but you have it so i geuss you know the ins and outs much better then me,.

but i do know for FACT that red eye is the blood vessels enlarging, cos of the vein wall un-contracting (un-tightening) due to muscle relaxing properties,

like the Tens machine people use on the viens on the sides of the head and back of the neck it send small electonic impulses via sticky pads these impulses sends a small shock to the viens,. and as its a small electric shock it just makes the vein walls relax and open up thats why i thought it would aid err....drainage lol, but yeah




duude like that was soo drainage!:D :stoned: