my grow log

[atsar]

well this is my 3rd grow now,and i'm going to be doing a little experimenting

my main plant is a clone from my last grow,it has been topped(thanks to the cat)and i've just begun lst,it's about 3 weeks rooted now,is in a 4 gallon pot under a 400w dual spectrum hps

i'm also sprouting a few more bagseeds,one of which i intend vegging for 4 weeks under cfls in a new veg box i've built,i need to see if i can flower 1 in a 5 litre pot,if this works,i'll be starting a sea of green harvesting every 2 weeks,using my current closet as a flower room

anyway here's some pics of things as they are now

[atsar]

well she's been tied down a week now and there's loads of new growth so i've decided to switch her 12/12 so she doesn't outgrow her pot,she's about 10" tall with loads of tops

i took a couple of cuttings which i intend growing in 5 litre pots and adding to the growroom after 2 weeks veg to see if the 5 litre is big enough for my sog i'm setting up

the seeds i'm sprouting,some will go straight into 12/12,others i'll give short veg periods of different lengths and add to flower room at different times while i find out what will be the best veg/flower periods for the small pots i'm experimenting with

by the summer i hope to have a sea of green up and running and harvesting every week or 2

anyway,here's some pics

all comments good or bad welcome

[atsar]

had another change in plans

main plant was looking like it was going to take over my grow room so i put a screen on her,just to contain her a bit and get all the buds into the lights

but after considering the way this strain grows,very branchy and loads of shoots,i'm going to try and make it a scrog,i know it's a litttle late as i've started 12/12 already,but i think there's a good chance of nearly filling the screen,i've already pulled 30+ shoots back under the screen,just hope i'm doing it right as i've never tried this before and all i've found on it so far is bits and pieces from peoples posts

anyway a couple of pics

[atsar]

no comments??can't be that bad surely:)

[TheGreenFog]

Don't take it personally. The Cultivation Section SUCKS recently. :( Boo. But it's gettng better.

Good lookin' grow, though, man. For sure. Keep posting. :D Any updates?


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[atsar]

thanks man,wasn't taking it personally,thought it must have sucked or something

well i've been training her a bit,didn't have long,about 6 days then the buds started appearing,but managed to get everything back under the screen and spread out a little,got loads of holes with buds in now,might get a few more in

below the screen i also have a good potential clone base going,as there's many shoots that wont reach the screen,perfect for the sog

i also added 1 seedling into the flowering room and 1 rooted clone for the start of the sog experiment

[TheGreenFog]

COOL Scrog, man! :thumbsup:


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[keeko]

yea thast a good tie down job:thumbsup:

[atsar]

thanks for the comments,most appreciated

i've got a few more clones rooting,and the seedling i put straight in on 12/12 is growing it's 3rd set of proper leaves

i believed this scrog was going to be really stressful on the plant,but have found that it never really stopped growing,or showed any other signs of stress during training,maybe it was because of the earlier lst i did,just found i never had to be forceful in moving the buds into better sites,anyway she's getting clear of the screen now,light to some bud sites is blocked by leaves from others,but i'm working those leaves back below the screen and bending them out the way etc,don't want to remove any unless totally neccesary

anyway a couple of pics

[atsar]

24 days of 12/12
so the seedling turned out to be a bloke,took 2 weeks of 12/12 from sprouting to showing sex,clone is having a stretch and there'll be more joining it soon

screen is looking good now,plants tops are well clear of the screen now and it's still stretching,buds seem to be filling out well and the trichs are looking good,only thing i've noticed is on what would be one of the 2 main tops of the plant is yellowing a little,gave a shot of nitrogen to see if it helps,i'm also having a bit of trouble keeping that top down and it's a bit higher than the rest

apart from that all seems well

some pics

[postmandave]

Exellent man. .24 days 12/12 and it look right on track i found when you start a scrog in flower that the stress leads to a pottasium problem but it never gets worst than the yellowing of a few leaves. If you watch the ppm, lowering a little untill the 5th week 12/12 then give it the recomended ppm it sorts its self out .This problem can be hard to diagnose in flower with the nitrogen getting used up but this has happened to me the 2 times i have started a scrog in flower.You can also flush and continue the nutes ppm as normal. If you are finding this yellowing a prob.I dont know if it affect the over all yeild cause i was aware of it.but nice grow atsar and this scrog will look good at harvest time. well done.be safe the postman.

[MULLETMAN]

Well done atsar, its really nice to see a scrog on here. Wanta try one in the future. Less plants more tops what more would I need, besides a longer veg. Thanks mMuummmamulletman.

[atsar]

thankyou postmandave,
when i fed her last i mixed 2 ferts together 35-10-10 and 10-30-30 so if it is K then it'll have gotten some as well as a little N boost,i don't have a tds/ec meter so am unable to test feeds and run off,i've had to play it by eye and touch wood haven't had any problems in previous grows,yellowing actually seems to be improving since feeding so fingers crossed,though if it gets worse i will flush

mulletman,thanks as well,you know what though,after the 2 weeks it took to root that plant,i only actually vegged it for 26 days under a 16/8 schedule,so longer veg periods might not be needed

[atsar]

oh yeah,here's a few close ups of some of the buds i meant to post last time

[postmandave]

what strain do you think it could be astar?

[sweetie]

Nice plant :) lots buds :rastasmoke:

[atsar]

what strain do you think it could be astar?

i've really no idea,the weed i got it in was really sticky and had to be really picked out,the plant i grew from it,the buds were really sticky too and it could be easily compressed into blocks,has a really fruity flavour and pretty dense buds,fully flowers in 7-8 weeks

think i have a pic of the weed i got from it,got some closer shots if they'll help

and thanks sweetie,appreciated

[atsar]

well,the yellowing top seems to be improving now,she's a thirsty girl,3 litres of water every 2 days,with nutes every 3rd watering,she's still stretching and fattening up too

my only concern is i need to leave my plants for a couple of days,hope they don't get too dry

[Tendril.traY]

nice, thats one fine lady u got there i counted like 20+ bud sites. as for the big one, would that be on of the mains or did it jus pop out of nowhere??lookin nice though bro stay posted!!

[atsar]

thanks Tendril.traY,yeah,it's one of the 2 main tops,the one furthest right in the pic,though recently most of the others have began catching up

[atsar]

well i've been 12/12 for 38 days now and things still seem good

there's been a few leaves dropping below the screen and some crisping up and dying,i reckon they've served their purpose

above the screen she looks great,bit of yellowing of the leaves and some purple leaf stems but nothing too drastic,i believe n deficiency is common late in flowering anyway,going to start flushing her at the beginning of week 6 until harvest(roughly week 8)

the buds are fattening up nice,hairs are starting to turn brown and she looks really frosty,and the smell is just simply amazing,will start checking the trich colours in around 2 weeks time

so here's how she's looking now

[atsar]

Day 46 of 12/12 and everything still seems well,have stopped feeding her nutes now but did give her some molasses,gonna give her some more at next watering,looks like she's fattening out a bit,more hairs are turning brown now and she's really frosty looking,

clone is in full flower now though did get a little nute burned,got another little clone in there a few days ago,don't think i'll have too much longer to wait now

[postmandave]

exellent job astar .Nice tidy scrog mate.the postman.

[hempplaya]

just wondering how tall is that plant? i'm thinking of growing and have a relatively small "cab" i can grow in, might be 20" or so tall.

[hydrocannabis]

god dam.astar. that is 1 very nice plant and clone you have there.

[atsar]

cheers postman and hydro,i'm really pleased with this one,and it will be a good measure of what training method is better,lst or scrog,the plant i took the cutting from was vegged for the same amount of time as this one was,and as it's a clone should be genetically the same,last one i lst'ed and it gave 132 grams dry weed,so see what happens there,

hempplaya,the plant is around 24 inches tall including pot,14 inches from soil to tops,and it's 18 inches by 14 inches wide(the screen)

[Tendril.traY]

i dont think there is any burn or def. of anything it looks to me that you have a early producer. which is good imo. yea the N is all suckd up not needed. do u have a co2 setup if not it helps tightn the sbuds. u can make one search for diy co2. ithink it uses a 2 liter or smaller, yeast, sugar and chemical reaction lolbut cheap easy and all the stuff is in ur cubord. mayb
lookin great, post yeild and quality:woohoo:

[dusto2k3]

hey Atsar,

AHahahahah, i just realized what you name is....i been like at-sar, what the hell does that mean


looks great

howabout some of your famouse macros?

[atsar]

that's what i was thinking trenditray,the plant i took clone from was only flowered 7 weeks as there was an unidentifiable problem with it which had begun spreading into the buds,so i chopped rather than risk,but it seemed pretty much done by then,the other plant i left for an extra week,just looked smelled tasted and smoked the same as the early cut one,i've been using molasses lately though haven't replaced my mixture for co2 for a while,will change it tomorrow

stopped the nutes about a week ago now,did expect her to get yellow towards the end of flower,don't think there is any nute burn on it or deficiencies(apart from the n)though my taller clone has experienced a little nute burn,that's what i get for using the same strength of nutes on it as i did on the scrog

dusto,i don't think you're the 1st to notice it,it is rather obvious,but your certainly the 1st to mention it:rasta: there's reason in mymadness lol

ok lets see how tonights close ups have turned out then,see if any are worthy of posting

[hydrocannabis]

thats looking badass.

[atsar]

thats looking badass.

it sure is man,it's taking all my will power not to chop it now,but good things come to those who wait heh,and not too much longer i hope

[hydrocannabis]

so is it your first scrog. if so its good for a first time scroger.

[atsar]

yeah it's my 1st scrog,in fact it's only my 3rd grow,this time last year i'd never attempted growing weed,glad i did though

[atsar]

well it's day 53/54 of flower now and i've still managed not to chop her

leaves are really yellow and dropping now and hairs are about 30% brown,looked like the buds were thinning out on top,but it seems it's new growth,it's on the sides of the buds too,making them fatten out more,and filling the gaps between the buds

i know she's gonna be ready soon but i want to get this 1 right,i'm gonna post regular pics of the trichs daily and you's can tell me when the time is right

cheers
stef

[hydrocannabis]

that is 1 fine looken ladie you have growen there.

[decontrol]

beautiful grow :thumbsup: love the pictures good stuff

[postmandave]

astar mate well done again love these one plant scrogs ,Mobay also done one with nebula and it was a peice of art something like yours well done man its great to see people get the most from their plants.top drawer mate.(and a jock as well more ,scots are getting good at this long may this continue)the postman.

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[Beano]

Looks smecksy man, keep it up!
:)

[Elim420]

damn shes lookin nice, im thinkin about lsting my plant too.
cant wait to hear about the yeild :jointsmile:

[TheGreenFog]

Hey, atsar. How are things? Looks good from here, man. That scrog looks excellent...the buds look good (still look like they have a bit to go), but what strikes me the most is the perfectly even way that your fan leaves are fading.

So, this is a bagseed strain? How long did it take last time? You said this was your 3rd grow, right? How long did it take to flower before? If you are planning to chop soon, I'd say that you flushed PERFECTLY because it looks to me like your plants are really using up every last drop of chorophyll that they have in them there leaves. Anyway, man, looking sweet. Looking forward to the chop and harvest pics. Keep it up! :thumbsup:

Hey, man...are you considering getting some purchased genetics (specific strain) anytime soon? I don't see that you have a veg log, so I wonder what you have in the works for the next cycle. Some WR or NL or other scrog-loving strain would be AWESOME for your next scrog grow, man. Let us know! :)


Hey, PMD, wtf is up with that guy and his Scottish rapping? I don't care if you're Scottish, British, American, or French...WTF was that?! LOL Dude needs to finish smoking more of that big ass spliff he's go in the vid. LOL Thanks.

Be cool, peeps.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[atsar]

thanks again postmand and greenfog,it's always good to hear the experienced growers opinions,lets me know how i'm doing,and thanks to everyone else who commented too,it's always appreciated

greenfog,the plant i took the cutting from,i had to chop early because there was something going wrong,so i chopped her just before 7 weeks,so can't really use that as a guide,though weed was still amazing,
i am thinking about seeds,but i really need to look into things a bit more,see what's suitable for scrog,but as it goes,this that i have is a really good strain,its branchy,decent yeilds,very forgiving,puts up with ridiculous temps/humidity to mention but a few of its good points,so even if i do get seeds,i reckon i'll try and keep at least 1 clone per grow of this one

postman,i'll check that link right after i hit submit reply

here's tonights trichs,there's also something happening on some of the leaves,is it ok?i saw some little fly things hanging round earlier,its 1st pic

thanks
stef

[aheadatime]

hey whats up atsar,
very good job so far id say its a indica/sativa mix a lil on the indica side looking at the leaves. props man, very successful. what lighting are you using? and are you using mylar/foil?

[atsar]

aheadatime i use a 400 watt dual spectrum hps,and line the wardrobe with aluminium foil tape

so tonight i chopped her down,i based this decision on a couple of things,firstly i was seeing loads of deformed amber trichs,see pic 1

secondly,i'm going on to 14 hour shifts at work for a few days,maybe a week,i wouldn't have seen her at all in this time so i wouldn't have been able to check trichs/water etc without interupting it's dark time

so based upon this i decided it was time to chop,spent 3 hours trimming her down a little and hanging the buds,no idea of the wet weight,no point really,will post weight when it's dry

anyway,some pics

[aheadatime]

hmm excuse me if this is a stupid question but ive seen tons of different items to buy when i look up grow lights. there are hps bulbs (without a system, just a bulb) reflectors, etc. what do i buy to get the setup? do i get a reflector and simply screw in the hps bulb? and damn atsar, all that from one hps bulb?

[aheadatime]

another question from the curious nub
you LSTed your plants i think. what did you use for the tying? fish line? im going to start my closet soon on a full spec 90 wat cool flour and a 400 wt hps with about 3 maybe 4 plants going at once. obviously im gonna need some LSTing done for space. thanks for the answers atsar, the yeild looks delicious =] tons of props bro

[atsar]

with hps you need a ballast,bulb and appropriate light fitting,reflector is very useful too,you can buy them as complete kits/units,for the lst i just used plain ordinary string

[hydrocannabis]

atsar. what agreat job on the plant.
the buds look killer.

[r00tdoctor]

Nice harvest and awsome lst job. Looks like you harvested at a good time juding by your tricomes ; it should be a good buzz nice combination of an "up" type stoned high and a lil body buzz.

[aheadatime]

btw, exactly how many plants did you have pre-harvest?

[atsar]

well,i had 4 plants,but now i only have 3 as i harvested one,the 3 will be ready at different times and are just small single top plants

[aheadatime]

so wait, all that harvest was from one plant? how many oz's did that weigh to when finished drying? and with lsting, do you keep it tied down until you start budding or what?

[aheadatime]

omg i cant believe that all that bud is from one plant. what a terrific yeild holy shit

[atsar]

well it's been hanging 5 days now,stems snap nicely and it's as dry as it needs to be,trimmed the last of the crystal coated leaves off for hash and got it in a tub to cure,it's so damn nice,really sticky and tasty,i reckon it could be blueberry,it tastes/smells like the weed my neighbour just bought,only a little more potent

aheadatime,it weighed in at 121 grams,11 less than the mother plant i took the clone from,which really surprised me as i only lst'ed that plant,and not much either,just 1 bend 1 week into 12/12

so in conclusion,i can fit 4 lst'ed girls in my space compared to maybe 2 scrogs at a squeeze,and the lst seems to yeild slightly more with this strain,as long as i'm growing this strain,i'll go lst,though i have to say the scrog was an experience and i'm really glad i did it,and i reckon i could probably do it better now that i actually know what i'm doing

[aheadatime]

4 ozs huh, good job. whats your method for curing it/ how long do you do it? and im still a bit confused as to how you did your lsting. you said you did it 2 weeks into veggin and kept it down for 2 weeks if im not mistaking. ill keep that in mind when i grow

[Dank_Mohasky]

very excellent scrog grow indeed.
I bet the bud is delicious!

[atsar]

thanks dank,the bud is superb

aheadatime,have you actually read any of this post?or just the first message?because all the bloody questions you're asking answers are in this post,and if you'd bothered to get to like the 3rd or 4th message you'd have seen that i changed from lst to scrog yeah,there's a difference,it's called a screen and it's in near on every pic in this post,so before asking more questions,read what's already here!!

[Bodom Children Of]

nice grow. u got it down, son.

[atsar]

nice grow. u got it down, son.

cheers man,much appreciated,i'm already itching to do my next grow,gonna be 4 lst'd ladies in the same space,just as soon as i got another 2 rooted