Most overrated band?

[TOOL9]

Who in your opinion is the most overrated band of all time. In my opinion i would say that nirvana has to be.

[slipknotpsycho]

the beatles.

[Veratyr Star]

the beatles

[slipknotpsycho]

lmao... wth?

nirvana
beatles
nirvana
beatles

[Breukelen advocaat]

Grateful Dead

[klup]

all of todays teeny bopper bands like fall out boy. acdc too

[TheFatKid]

Definitely TOOL.

[Samwhore]

stupid MCR and FOB

[Metaphor]

pink floyd

[bobthenuker]

I'd have to say beatles

[TX Girl]

The Rolling Stones.
I cannot figure out why they have been around so long, they fuckin suck.


yeah, I agree AC/DC deserves to be on the list along with the Grateful Dead, too.

[JackdaWack]

imho no way are the beatles or pink floyd over rated, not today atleast. No one hypes them up like they used to, and there music is really good. So they both had a reason to be rated very highly, u cant over rate great bands like them, they both have changed the music industry.
Now a band like nirvana u could say is over rated but they too changed music.
When you think about over rated bands dont be ignorant becuase you dont like them or arent into there style, look at what thay have changed, there followingm and what they did for music.
A band like blink 182 is over rated, dumbass retards mmaking shitty music, but made mad money, while minipulating people into the "pop" scene. Not that its a bad scene but there are shitty bands out there that get way to much attention becuase they potray themselves to a certain group of people, look deeper then how you dislike there music and look at what there actually doing or did for the music community.

[Zimzum]

I'll agree with Jack, any band that puts choreography before actual talent. Pretty much any pop band out there today. You might not like AC/DC or the Beatles but at least they played there own instruments.

[Metaphor]

Jack,

Pink Floyd is soo overrated, there music isnt even "trippy" nor is it the best "chill out" music imo. If you think pink floyd is a good definition of psychedelic rock, you would be sadly mistaken if you listened to some real phych rock or post-rock. Sorry but idk where your from, the "hippys" at my school hype up floyd like crazy so i dont really know where you live that people overlook them. I wish i lived there. (im not tryin to start a thread war so dont take it like that)

[Daveracer]

99% of the bands that have produced music from the year 2000 and up.

[dusto2k3]

Jack,

Pink Floyd is soo overrated, there music isnt even "trippy" nor is it the best "chill out" music imo. If you think pink floyd is a good definition of psychedelic rock, you would be sadly mistaken if you listened to some real phych rock or post-rock. Sorry but idk where your from, the "hippys" at my school hype up floyd like crazy so i dont really know where you live that people overlook them. I wish i lived there. (im not tryin to start a thread war so dont take it like that)

Dude, your like 16. You don't even know what floyd did for music as a whole. You cant overrate a band that is a legend. It'd be like saying the Doors are overrated or something.

[stinkyattic]

You don't even know what floyd did for music as a whole. ...
I agree.
And I also think you can say the same for the Beatles.
As for truly overrated bands, yeah, I have to put Nirvana on the list... if it weren't for all the attention they got after Kurt Cobain's death, they would have been absolutely ECLIPSED by the talents of Soundgarden and Alice in Chains, who were FAR more worthy contemporaries.
Oh... and for solo artists... Geez, come ON, ELVIS FREAKIN' PRESLEY...

[OniEhtRedrum781]

Nirvana and Tool are the most overrated, IMO

[slipknotpsycho]

when i think overrated, i think of how many people act like they're gods, AND their own personification of themselves...

kurt didn't even want to be famous, he just played cuz he liked the music... all the fans are what made them popular... (and yes i realize he coulda turned the fame down, but who's gonna do that, in reality? that's like throwing away a winning lottery ticket)

i realize it's your opinions, and i don't try to argue with that (but you try to argue mine? lol....) but i don't see how you can say nirvana is overrated and not the beatles...

there are those who treat kurt and nirvana like they're god (not me btw) but there's far less of those fanatic fans than the beatles worshipers, and btw, it's just as easy for me ot say the beatles music sucks as it is for you to say it's great music...

however i have just thought of anohter, i think we all may be able to agree on...

MY NAME IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCK.....

[Veratyr Star]

Nirvana and Tool are the most overrated, IMO

Uhhh Tool?

You might need to go into hiding for a while.

[SonicBloom]

Nirvana, the Beatles, and the Rolling Stones. The Beatles were alright, but get far too much credit for being innovative, the most important part of the Beatles music was Phil Spector's wall of sound. With Nirvana, they're always getting credit for Kurt Cobain being a brilliant song writer...but why is that? His songs are rarely anything more than random firings of generic lyrics that anyone would be able to relate to. There are no stories, morals, or visuals to be found. The Rolling Stones, well they're just shit. They might have made a catchy song here and there, but anyone can make a catchy song. They've rode the coat tails of their own fame, and all it took in their day to get some press was being British and playing American music.

[slipknotpsycho]

Nirvana, the Beatles, and the Rolling Stones. The Beatles were alright, but get far too much credit for being innovative, the most important part of the Beatles music was Phil Spector's wall of sound. With Nirvana, they're always getting credit for Kurt Cobain being a brilliant song writer...but why is that? His songs are rarely anything more than random firings of generic lyrics that anyone would be able to relate to. There are no stories, morals, or visuals to be found. The Rolling Stones, well they're just shit. They might have made a catchy song here and there, but anyone can make a catchy song. They've rode the coat tails of their own fame, and all it took in their day to get some press was being British and playing American music.

actually, you're wrong there.... as one example, polly... the songw as inspired and written for a particular event...

[Metaphor]

Dude, your like 16. You don't even know what floyd did for music as a whole. You cant overrate a band that is a legend. It'd be like saying the Doors are overrated or something.

First of all I'm not 16.

Secocndly i know quite well what pink floyd did for music, they started a new genre basicly. Showing people that not all rock has to be loud and full of profanity. Popularizing concept albums. However the question was, what is the most overrated band, and i gave my aneswer, from song to song its basicly the same. The music is so mundane and boring, i dont know how anyone would consider it trippy, let alone "good". They may have started a revouloution, but the music sucks.

If you think Pink Floyd isnt overrated you have to be totally ignorant when it comes to music. Most people that enjoy pink floyd & take my words for blasphamy probably dont know the first thing about rock music in general. (by this i mean you only know classic rock) Grow out of shell and get off the classic rock bandwagon. They might have been good at the time, but now there washed up.

Theres a ton of genres & subgenres in rock music. People like you make me sick when you confide yourself to one single genre and imediatley dismiss anything that wasnt written in the 70's or played with a bitchin guitar solo.
I could rattle off bands that would make any floyd fans drop a steamer in their pants, however not everyone should know about these bands, especially if you dont have a deep, passionate love for music as a whole.

But what the hell, why dont i spark up a bowl and go listen to Darkside of the Moon. Again. like omFG Da BellLZzz In Tyme R BuGgInnnNN...
pink floyds as mundane as the day is long

[slipknotpsycho]

First of all I'm not 16.

Secocndly i know quite well what pink floyd did for music, they started a new genre basicly. Showing people that not all rock has to be loud and full of profanity. Popularizing concept albums. However the question was, what is the most overrated band, and i gave my aneswer, from song to song its basicly the same. The music is so mundane and boring, i dont know how anyone would consider it trippy, let alone "good". They may have started a revouloution, but the music sucks.

If you think Pink Floyd isnt overrated you have to be totally ignorant when it comes to music. Most people that enjoy pink floyd & take my words for blasphamy probably dont know the first thing about rock music in general. (by this i mean you only know classic rock) Grow out of shell and get off the classic rock bandwagon. They might have been good at the time, but now there washed up.

Theres a ton of genres & subgenres in rock music. People like you make me sick when you confide yourself to one single genre and imediatley dismiss anything that wasnt written in the 70's or played with a bitchin guitar solo.
I could rattle off bands that would make any floyd fans drop a steamer in their pants, however not everyone should know about these bands, especially if you dont have a deep, passionate love for music as a whole.

But what the hell, why dont i spark up a bowl and go listen to Darkside of the Moon. Again. like omFG Da BellLZzz In Tyme R BuGgInnnNN...
pink floyds as mundane as the day is long

you know... o.0 even tho you think i'm a fuckin mongrel (lol) i agree with you on this... i wouldn't call them the most overated, but they are definately overrated... i like 2 songs by them (and believe me i've heard plenty) and that's it.... welcome to the machine and another brick in the wall (i believe it's part 2 i like)

to the general thread. i find it funny that we were asked our opinion and now there are people trying to debate an OPINION... it's a damn opinion! it's not a fact, it's opinion... and everyone is entitled to theirs... so why are you trying to debate it? you can't debate an opinion, becuase it's not fact... lol... maybe some of you should read up on the definition of opinion.

[Nochowderforyou]

The Beatles for sure.

As for today, Coldplay or U2 would be my choices. They are both very, very boring music where the lyrics seem to have no meaning.

[slipknotpsycho]

both those suck imo... i didn't even know they hard a large fan base?

[slipknotpsycho]

overrated - Definitions from Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/overrated)


o·ver·rate /ˌoʊvərˈreɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[oh-ver-reyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), -rat·ed, -rat·ing. to rate or appraise too highly; overestimate: I think you overrate their political influence.


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[Origin: 1580–90; over- + rate1]


—Synonyms overpraise, overesteem, magnify.

opinion - Definitions from Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/opinion)


o·pin·ion /əˈpɪnyən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-pin-yuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.
4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.
6. a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him.

[Metaphor]

its true that a bag of shit weighs more than my (anyones) opinion, that dont make it any less fun to bash pink floyd though.

[slipknotpsycho]

lol you taught me a new saying... like

"hope in one hand, shit in the other see which one fills up faster" lol...

now i can say somethin like "it's true my opinion weighs less then a bag of shit, but that don't make it any less grounded or important (or fun)" lol.. btw o.0 i think you misunderstood what i was saying in that thread.... i have no hard feelings or anything just to let you know..

[afghooey]

Wolf Mother.

They got a grammy for that 'Woman' song, for best rock performance. (Which, IMO, is the worst fucking song in the history of rock.) Seriously, that's just wrong. Especially considering that Vicarious was nominated in that category. Tool > Wolf Mother x1000.

[SonicBloom]

actually, you're wrong there.... as one example, polly... the songw as inspired and written for a particular event...

I know that. That doesn't mean the song is a story. The lyrics are just vague references, and allow the listener to attach whatever meaning to them they wish. Half the lyrics are completely irrelevant to the song anyway, just thrown in because Kurt Cobain was an idiot and couldn't come up with anything better.


Polly wants a cracker
I Think I should get off her first
I think she wants some water
To put out the blow torch

Isn't me...have a seed
Let me clip...dirty wings
Let me take a ride...hurt yourself
Want some help...help myself
got some rope...have been told
promise you...have been true
Let me take a ride...hurt yourself
Want some help...help myself

Polly wants a cracker
Maybe she would like some food
She asks me to untie her
A chase would be nice for a few

Isn't me...have a seed
Let me clip...dirty wings
Let me take a ride...hurt yourself
Want some help...help myself
got some rope...have been told
promise you...have been true
Let me take a ride...hurt yourself
Want some help...help myself

Polly said...
Polly says her back hurts
And she's just as bored as me
She caught me off my guard
Amazes me, the will of instinct

Isn't me...have a seed
Let me clip...dirty wings
Let me take a ride...hurt yourself
Want some help...help myself
got some rope...have been told
promise you...have been true
Let me take a ride...hurt yourself
Want some help...help myself

[slipknotpsycho]

erm.. ok i'm not gonna take it there... o.0 you obviously dunno what you're even 'hating'.... out of all the bands in the world, nirvana is hardly the most overrated... (btw what i'm referring to you don't know what you're talking about is the song polly.. maybe you should research a bit before you try and decide this kinda crap)

[dutch.lover]

most overrated band TODAY: Fergie. I know she's not a band but she still sucks bad. And I think she was even nominated for a Grammy.

I also don't think The Tragically Hip is as good as most people think they are...

I love coldplay though, someone mentioned them as being overrated. I would have to agree with the U2 comment tho- I just don't understand their appeal.

[SonicBloom]

erm.. ok i'm not gonna take it there... o.0 you obviously dunno what you're even 'hating'.... out of all the bands in the world, nirvana is hardly the most overrated... (btw what i'm referring to you don't know what you're talking about is the song polly.. maybe you should research a bit before you try and decide this kinda crap)

I know exactly what I'm talking about. I was an avid Nirvana fan, I've heard every song...when I was 13 that was deep to me. I'm sure you find deep meaning in those lyrics, you seem stupid enough, so enjoy it. I honestly don't care if crap your pants.

[slipknotpsycho]

why is it someone always seems to want to start with insults when they're not needed? you know i've seen enough of you to light you up like a christmas tree...

if you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't have said all the story related shit... it was about a specific event, it was made just for that specific event.. it wasn't just some coincedence... so no, you don't know what you're talking about...

and i've decided to not start in with insults (i realized about a week ago i went back to insulting people for no real reason) and i'd appreciate if you didn't either... this is all opinion... why can't some of you seem to realize about that? there is no fact of the most overrated band... there is no way it can be fact, so there's no reason arguing over it... the band you think is overrated, will be thousands of other people's favorite band...

it's not something that can be debated it's opinion... maybe i angered you with the beatles statement, maybe you just have a stick up your ass, i don't know and i don't care to know... but next time you feel the need to result to personal insults, just keep it to yourself... please. thank you.

oh yeah, more on the story part.... there's like hardly any bands that write their lyrics based on a story or event, and even less songs by the bands that deal with this.... so that's a completely irrelevant argument... real lyrics are wrote about feeling, not experience... they may sometimes refrence events, but far more often then not, it's about the feelings at the time....

so, please, just grow up and move on... i have no desire to sit here and argue about something like this with a 14 year old.. and if you're not 14, you still hold the mentality of one.... insults as responses to arguments go out at about that time... 15 year olds are usually learning to how to debate without resorting to personal insults...

[Metaphor]

Sonic
your basicly saying that in order for music to be good it has to have deep meaningful lyrics??
Or better yet if they dont have meaningful lyrics there overrated. well. i seem to recall you arguing for mozart or bach w/e and as far as i know they contain no lyrics whatsoever, anyway.

You say, "The lyrics are just vague references, and allow the listener to attach whatever meaning to them they wish. Half the lyrics are completely irrelevant to the song anyway"
Idk how you interpert that but i think you just majorly contradicted yourself. If the lyrics are vauge and anyone can attach whatever meaning they want wouldnt that mean that more people can accualy relate to the music?
polly was a bad example also, why dont you re-listen to Sappy (verse chorus verse, w/e they call it now)

I dont consider every band with "vauge lyrics" a great band because most people can relate. I love all types of music, with lyrics and without, i feel that dismissing a band based souly on their lyrics is a tad narrow minded. Lyrics are the most meaningless part of a song. unless your into some mainstream, but i wont even go there

and btw, you dont need to argue with personal attacks.

slip: idk what you were talkin about before but i wasnt tryin to portray any bad feelings either.

[slipknotpsycho]

http://boards.cannabis.com/music-room/105491-starting-loose-hope.html

^^^ that whole thread lol... and i didn't say you were trying ot portray bad feelings, i was just saying, i think there was a misunderstanding and i had none...

[Metaphor]

lol i didnt forget about that, no doubt tho, i dont got enough time to hold grudges.

uhh was that an oxy moron???

[slipknotpsycho]

kind of? lol..

[FreeVenice]

Any band that got more famous after the band broke up or a member died is obviously overrated. . .

[Breukelen advocaat]

Nirvana, the Beatles, and the Rolling Stones. The Beatles were alright, but get far too much credit for being innovative, the most important part of the Beatles music was Phil Spector's wall of sound.

Although Spector did post-production work on The Beatles' "Let it Be" album, which was at the end of their output as they were breaking up as a band, he certainly was not responsible for anything that could remotely be called "the most important part of the Beatle's music". Spector also did production work with individual members (Lennon, Harrison) after the band broke up.

[Nugget Lover]

basically this whole thread is people naming bands/artists that are overrated and every opinion is challenged b/c someone likes that artist, ignoring the fact that we're talking about overrated music.

[Breukelen advocaat]

I do agree that the Beatles get too much credit for innovations that others actually created and/or perfected. Still, they did have a very distinctive sound, chemistry for songwriting, decent harmonies, and interesting musicianship. They were very influenced by Americans such as Chuck Berry, Little Richard, the Everly Brothers, Elvis, "girl" vocal groups, and others.

[Nugget Lover]

I think the Beatles are wonderful, there music was diverse and almost every song was a hit, when anyone mentions the 60's the beatles are the first group that come to mind.

[FreeVenice]

I think it was more of who was in the Beatles that made them, rather then the band it's self. . .

[SonicBloom]

Sonic
your basicly saying that in order for music to be good it has to have deep meaningful lyrics??
Or better yet if they dont have meaningful lyrics there overrated. well. i seem to recall you arguing for mozart or bach w/e and as far as i know they contain no lyrics whatsoever, anyway.

So you obviously missed the point of the thread, or atleast forgot what thread my post was in. I said that Nirvana was over rated because they are rated highly for their lyrics, and the lyrics are far below average. There are several types of music listening, and if a band wants to be lyric based, I'm going to judge them on their lyrics. Musicians who's goal to is to write interesting instrumental music, I judge by how interesting their music is. It's a fairly simple system.

As for "personal attacks", I don't really see it like that. I called you stupid because you are stupid, it's like if you're Irish and I call you Irish, it's because you are.

Chikin sanwich.

[slipknotpsycho]

So you obviously missed the point of the thread, or atleast forgot what thread my post was in. I said that Nirvana was over rated because they are rated highly for their lyrics, and the lyrics are far below average. There are several types of music listening, and if a band wants to be lyric based, I'm going to judge them on their lyrics. Musicians who's goal to is to write interesting instrumental music, I judge by how interesting their music is. It's a fairly simple system.

As for "personal attacks", I don't really see it like that. I called you stupid because you are stupid, it's like if you're Irish and I call you Irish, it's because you are.

Chikin sanwich.

yeah, mind explaining how calling me stupid isn't personally attacking? if you think it isn't, well i'm only left to assume, that you are the one who's 'stupid'.. calling someone stupid is a personal insult, no matter how you look at it... calling me stupid is insulting my personal intelligence.... i'm not failing some math test horribly, we have differing opinions... since opinions aren't fact, when you throw around the word stupid (especially when directed at someone with differing opinion) it is an insult..

but w/e... keep it up you'll be banned like the others who want to do ignorant things like that... may not happen for awhile, but it will happen... as for now, i can just ignore you, and not have to read your posts that reek of shit.

[SonicBloom]

I couldn't understand you're post.

...

[slipknotpsycho]

i'm a child pedophile that loves licking donkey ass

creating your own little quotes doesn't exactly strike me as the brightest thing to do.. only confirms how immature you really are...

here i am trying to uphold an adult conversation and you're resorting to something that ridiculous...

btw i only made my own little quote you 'supposedly said' just to show you how easy it is... if that's you're only 'comeback' to a logical argument well lol.. i feel sorry for you... maybe in 10 years you can hang with the adults...

[FreeVenice]

....or maybe not.

[Dest]

this is just a great way to start an argument, it doesnt matter what bands you think are overrated. just listen to music that you like...

[thcbongman]

Ozzy, most overrated singer of all time.

[SonicBloom]

creating your own little quotes doesn't exactly strike me as the brightest thing to do.. only confirms how immature you really are...

here i am trying to uphold an adult conversation and you're resorting to something that ridiculous...

btw i only made my own little quote you 'supposedly said' just to show you how easy it is... if that's you're only 'comeback' to a logical argument well lol.. i feel sorry for you... maybe in 10 years you can hang with the adults...


You haven't made a logical arguement, not in this thread. You're only arguement was you saying Nirvana has stories in their songs. You never brought any evidence to the table, but you probably can't.

[Metaphor]

You haven't made a logical arguement, not in this thread. You're only arguement was you saying Nirvana has stories in their songs. You never brought any evidence to the table, but you probably can't.

cuz calling me stupid is soo logical, it can not only BE proven, but it has, by someone whos never met me beore.
Sonicbloom, your music is soooo boring and monotonis, atleast your clever pirate song is. Your lyrics are soooooooo much better than nirvanas, i mean, how could someones lyrics that accualy make you think to understand and relate to them be better than someone whos lyrics are so blatantly obvious that a 4 year old could understand them. I mean, if your making music in the first place wouldnt you want it to be for the people who appreciate music and not any douche who has a computer?? ide rather listen to pink floyd then visit your myspace ever again.
and uhh btw Nirvanas on your influences, idk if you were aware of that

[Nochowderforyou]

Why can't someone have an opinion without a hread turning into a pissfest? I don't get it.

Pink Floyd are really not super duper great in my eyes either. I like a few of their songs, every once in awhile, but other than that, I find their music boring and it makes me sleepy. They don't have much dimension. You can pick out a Floyd song 2 seconds in because they all sound the similair.

As for Nirvana, sure Cobain had a few songs that maybe didn't mean much, but music doesn't have to have deep meaning and thought to make it good. It doesn't have to complicated and a billion notes per song. It's the melody and his voice that I liked so much. He had a voice like no other.

Floyd is just so *zzzzzzzz* slow and dreary music (despite a few songs).

[OniEhtRedrum781]

Uhhh Tool?

You might need to go into hiding for a while.

Hey I never said it was your opinion....

Everyone loves them and I can't really get into them, therefore, I feel they are overrated...

And don't go throwing a bunch of Tool songs to download at me, cuz I know their shit...

[FREEWAYHOBO]

i think any band can be overated by anyone person, one person may swear by another band as i may not. its all about taste... i just enjoy listening to music whoever it be.

[OniEhtRedrum781]

i think any band can be overated by anyone person, one person may swear by another band as i may not. its all about taste... i just enjoy listening to music whoever it be.

At least someone's got it right.. :thumbsup:

[SonicBloom]

cuz calling me stupid is soo logical, it can not only BE proven, but it has, by someone whos never met me beore.
Sonicbloom, your music is soooo boring and monotonis, atleast your clever pirate song is. Your lyrics are soooooooo much better than nirvanas, i mean, how could someones lyrics that accualy make you think to understand and relate to them be better than someone whos lyrics are so blatantly obvious that a 4 year old could understand them. I mean, if your making music in the first place wouldnt you want it to be for the people who appreciate music and not any douche who has a computer?? ide rather listen to pink floyd then visit your myspace ever again.
and uhh btw Nirvanas on your influences, idk if you were aware of that


I never called you stupid, and of coarse Nirvana is one of my influences, I already said several posts ago that I was an avid Nirvana fan in my past.

Here's a tip for you two though, if you want to try and own me, which you'll never be able to do, you should start with legible posts. That is, if you can handle it.

[naturesgift]

First of all I'm not 16.

Secocndly i know quite well what pink floyd did for music, they started a new genre basicly. Showing people that not all rock has to be loud and full of profanity. Popularizing concept albums. However the question was, what is the most overrated band, and i gave my aneswer, from song to song its basicly the same. The music is so mundane and boring, i dont know how anyone would consider it trippy, let alone "good". They may have started a revouloution, but the music sucks.

If you think Pink Floyd isnt overrated you have to be totally ignorant when it comes to music. Most people that enjoy pink floyd & take my words for blasphamy probably dont know the first thing about rock music in general. (by this i mean you only know classic rock) Grow out of shell and get off the classic rock bandwagon. They might have been good at the time, but now there washed up.

Theres a ton of genres & subgenres in rock music. People like you make me sick when you confide yourself to one single genre and imediatley dismiss anything that wasnt written in the 70's or played with a bitchin guitar solo.
I could rattle off bands that would make any floyd fans drop a steamer in their pants, however not everyone should know about these bands, especially if you dont have a deep, passionate love for music as a whole.

But what the hell, why dont i spark up a bowl and go listen to Darkside of the Moon. Again. like omFG Da BellLZzz In Tyme R BuGgInnnNN...
pink floyds as mundane as the day is long

Your taste in music sucks ,you stupid 17 year old fool grow up and wait till you have an opinion worthy off using your only remaining brain cell!

[Happy_Chronikkuh]

i don't post often on this site, but i read several threads that i think may be interesting several times a week. it's incredible to me how threads that should be based on friendly debate last roughly 4-5 posts before turning into an online battle of the bulge. i truly enjoy reading this site, but there is literally NO reason that half of the threads i read should end up like this. i enjoy pink floyd, i enjoy the beatles. i'm not much into nirvana and tool, but i'm not going to say they are overrated because i've only heard a couple songs....they just aren't the type of music that i enjoy. my time on this site is nearing its end because i feel like i can hardly read a thread these days without members continuously bashing one another. i read a thread yesterday about a guy that was having trouble getting along with his mom, and although he VERY CLEARLY stated that he respects everything she does for him, most of the return posts were personal attacks toward him. the guy had a problem about which he was looking for advice and he turned into a human fucking pinata. sorry to hijack this thread, and i don't mean any insult to anyone, but can we just debate some fucking music?

[Metaphor]

Your taste in music sucks ,you stupid 17 year old fool grow up and wait till you have an opinion worthy off using your only remaining brain cell!

My taste in music may suck in your opinion but atleast i dont stay stuck on classic rock listening to the same mundane albums over and over again. By the way, can you even name some bands i listen to, seeing as how you know every artist i to enough to evaluate them and put them in the "sucks" catagory (sp). Why dont you rattle off a few of my favorite bands?? oh wait, you dont even know WHAT THE FUCK I LISTEN TO. you musicly ignorant bastard. i hope you really love your bells in time.

and btw, why did you quote me and respond with something as pittiful as what you said. why dont you prove me wrong instead?

[Its a Plant]

Alright, first off, everyone CHILL.

This thread is packed with personal insults, and it's bullshit. If you can't get your point across without insulting someone, DO NOT RESPOND.

It's high time everyone GROW UP and learn to respond with a little maturity.

I won't close the thread, but I probably should. This is a warning though: if you feel the need to insult someone, do it another place. I'm sick and tired of seeing a bunch of high-and-mighty members feel the need to insult everyone else. Everyone has different opinions/tastes in music, so learn to DEAL WITH IT.

So if you receive an infraction for personal insults, don't come crying to us. Our actions are never unjust, nor do they EVER warrant an explanation as to why you received them. You break the rules, you pay the price.

That said, I hope things have settled down.

Have a good one. :jointsmile:

[Metaphor]

its a plant, ruler of the board, what IS the most overrated band???

[Its a Plant]

LOL...personally...Pink Floyd and TOOL. Could go a lifetime without ever hearing them again.

I have spoken! :cool:

[Dutch Pimp]

...

[MyMARYJANE]

it doesnt matter what bands you think are overrated. just listen to music that you like...

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :jointsmile:

[higher4hockey]

nickelback, pearl jam, nirvana.

[Metaphor]

Dont take my word for it,


.Pink Floyd and TOOL
I have spoken! :cool:

you heard it from the man.

[Matt the Funk]

The beatles. Not saying I don't like them. Just WAY too over rated.

[OniEhtRedrum781]

All this thread did was make us fight. Good one! :jointsmile:

[leefx]

Nirvana
they suck but they have a cool name, because it's my favorite incense. :hippy:

[Purple Banana]

I don't think Pink Floyd is overrated at all- they're not the best, but they put a lot of good stuff out. Simply put, many people equate them with Another Brick In The Wall, or Dark Side of the Moon.

The Syd Barrett era of Floyd, no matter how short-lived, had wonderful psychedelic music. Piper at the Gates of Dawn, and Saucerful of Secrets are great psychedelic albums.

Most of the people (not all) who classify Floyd as overrated usually have only listened to Dark Side Of The Moon and The Wall. In my opinion, those aren't the best albums... Meddle, Wish You Were Here, Echoes, and Animals have amazing guitar work. Have you heard many other artists like David Gilmour play with such clear-cut sound, and genuinely beautiful notes? He may not play speed guitar like some of the more modern nu metal bands, or even classic metal bands, but he uses very euphonic techniques. Instead of just playing a random list of semi-related songs, they use concept albums, which can have amazing potential.

I don't think the Beatles were VERY overrated, a lot of their original material was stifled by Phil Spector- Let It Be... Naked is a good example of the stuff they really wanted to put out. Not the best band in the world, but I really like their stuff.

As for jam bands, like Grateful Dead and The Allman Brothers Band, their fanbase is mostly people who followed their shows for a good time, not just the music. Jam bands are more of a background kind of music for having a good time, not for people to claim 'they're the best band EVER.'

I think Elvis is definately overrated. He was more of an image who borrowed a lot of his riff structures and singing styles from early black American blues/jazz underground music, and made it feel more acceptable for white people to listen to.

[SonicBloom]

I don't think Pink Floyd is overrated at all- they're not the best, but they put a lot of good stuff out. Simply put, many people equate them with Another Brick In The Wall, or Dark Side of the Moon.

The Syd Barrett era of Floyd, no matter how short-lived, had wonderful psychedelic music. Piper at the Gates of Dawn, and Saucerful of Secrets are great psychedelic albums.

Most of the people (not all) who classify Floyd as overrated usually have only listened to Dark Side Of The Moon and The Wall. In my opinion, those aren't the best albums... Meddle, Wish You Were Here, Echoes, and Animals have amazing guitar work. Have you heard many other artists like David Gilmour play with such clear-cut sound, and genuinely beautiful notes? He may not play speed guitar like some of the more modern nu metal bands, or even classic metal bands, but he uses very euphonic techniques. Instead of just playing a random list of semi-related songs, they use concept albums, which can have amazing potential.

I don't think the Beatles were VERY overrated, a lot of their original material was stifled by Phil Spector- Let It Be... Naked is a good example of the stuff they really wanted to put out. Not the best band in the world, but I really like their stuff.

As for jam bands, like Grateful Dead and The Allman Brothers Band, their fanbase is mostly people who followed their shows for a good time, not just the music. Jam bands are more of a background kind of music for having a good time, not for people to claim 'they're the best band EVER.'

I think Elvis is definately overrated. He was more of an image who borrowed a lot of his riff structures and singing styles from early black American blues/jazz underground music, and made it feel more acceptable for white people to listen to.

Completely correct.

[Its a Plant]

I've heard plenty of Pink Floyd to know that it's all over-hyped by the up-and-coming generations who burn their first joint to Dark Side of the Moon and think it's the best thing created. Oh my gosh are those bird noises? How trippy! :rolleyes: Like I said, personally, they put me to sleep, and always have.

As for jam bands, I see what you're saying about some of the scene being full of "wookies" as they're so affectionately referred to. But I also must say that a lot of jam bands are amazingly talented. Jake Cinninger of Umphrey's McGee is one of my favorite guitarists, and shreds his brains out night in and night out. Dude's stage presence is something special, that's for sure. Bands like Medeski Martin and Wood, Robert Randolph, Old Crow Medicine Show, and Yonder Mountain String Band DEFINITELY have serious talent.

But honestly, I've seen plenty of jam bands, and for the most part, the people that support their live music are some of the nicest people around. This is definitely true for bluegrass, which also is close to my heart, but still, jam bands still have their respectable audience and their not-so-respectable audience, just like any other genre really. ~

[higher4hockey]

This is definitely true for bluegrass, which also is close to my heart,

im a big bluegreass fan. 'longview' and 'nohting fancy' being some favorites.

[Metaphor]

The Syd Barrett era of Floyd, no matter how short-lived, had wonderful psychedelic music. Piper at the Gates of Dawn, and Saucerful of Secrets are great psychedelic albums.


I know Piper at the gates of dawn and saucerful of secrets, and there allright albums, but when i say pink floyds overrated im talking about post Barrett. I still feel sorry for you though, if those are what you consider truly psychedelic albums. Sure there alot better than oh, say something like Wish You Were Here or Darkside.. those basicly just any other mainstream rock albums IMO. I would not by any stretch of the words call them great psychedelic albums though.

[Nochowderforyou]

I've heard plenty of Pink Floyd to know that it's all over-hyped by the up-and-coming generations who burn their first joint to Dark Side of the Moon and think it's the best thing created. Oh my gosh are those bird noises? How trippy! :rolleyes: Like I said, personally, they put me to sleep, and always have.

As for jam bands, I see what you're saying about some of the scene being full of "wookies" as they're so affectionately referred to. But I also must say that a lot of jam bands are amazingly talented. Jake Cinninger of Umphrey's McGee is one of my favorite guitarists, and shreds his brains out night in and night out. Dude's stage presence is something special, that's for sure. Bands like Medeski Martin and Wood, Robert Randolph, Old Crow Medicine Show, and Yonder Mountain String Band DEFINITELY have serious talent.

But honestly, I've seen plenty of jam bands, and for the most part, the people that support their live music are some of the nicest people around. This is definitely true for bluegrass, which also is close to my heart, but still, jam bands still have their respectable audience and their not-so-respectable audience, just like any other genre really. ~

I agree completly. Floyd doesn't stimulate my mind.

Same with the jam bands too. They are the most talented of any players in the world in my opinion. I mean, you take 3 or 4 guys who have never played together before in their lives, pick the key of A, and they can play songs like no problem, in time, in key, and all improvised on the spot. They are very tanlented musicians.

I like Tool myself though. I find their last 3 albums or so to be really complicated to follow (from a musicians point of view). Their notes are always chaning, but it's the polyrythmic beats that are the most outstanding. The fretless bass guitarist is very talented too. I don't find his lyrics to be the most impressive part if if it either. It's the music itself.

So it's all about tastes really. Some like Tool, some like Floyd and Nirvana, so who cares.

[Perp]

Oh... and for solo artists... Geez, come ON, ELVIS FREAKIN' PRESLEY...

How can you say The King is overrated?!? He is only the reason we listen to rock and roll today. Without him, we'd still be dancing to Lawrence Welk and his orchestra. Plus, the man could sing.

[Purple Banana]

I know Piper at the gates of dawn and saucerful of secrets, and there allright albums, but when i say pink floyds overrated im talking about post Barrett. I still feel sorry for you though, if those are what you consider truly psychedelic albums. Sure there alot better than oh, say something like Wish You Were Here or Darkside.. those basicly just any other mainstream rock albums IMO. I would not by any stretch of the words call them great psychedelic albums though.

I do consider those psychedelic albums, maybe not THE most psychedelic I've ever heard, but just about anyone who's listened to Barrett-era Floyd agrees those two albums are psychedelic in some degree or another.

By great, I mean great in MY opinion, not 'great' as in they were good examples of psychedelic albums, but I enjoyed the two as a whole.

As for mainstream? I don't think those two were mainstream per say, they sold a crapload of albums, but everyone knows that's not a good indicator of music quality. I enjoy their music not only for the guitar, but the symbolism in each concept album. As someone who looks for symbolism every day in my field, their music is heavily laid with it. Some people might not like that. That's okay.

You gotta remember, music is completely different for everyone :stoned:

[Nochowderforyou]

How can you say The King is overrated?!? He is only the reason we listen to rock and roll today. Without him, we'd still be dancing to Lawrence Welk and his orchestra. Plus, the man could sing.

Without Chuck Berry there would be no Elvis. ;)

[delusionsofNORMALity]

if just one person enjoys a band's music, then it has accomplished its task. searching for the meaning of life in a song or demanding that a band's music be intellectually stimulating are petty conceits and are totally irrelevant. of course the young pups are going to look at the legends of music as passe and the old farts will see the newer bands as pale imitations. each era's music speaks to that generation and only a few bits of music are able to withstand the test of time.

every product that is sold is over-hyped and music is a product, just like cars and corn flakes. all that really matters at the end of the day is whether you enjoyed your purchase.

[SonicBloom]

How can you say The King is overrated?!? He is only the reason we listen to rock and roll today. Without him, we'd still be dancing to Lawrence Welk and his orchestra. Plus, the man could sing.


Slavery is actually the only reason we have rock and roll today, and I definatly think slavery is overrated...

[Perp]

Without Chuck Berry there would be no Elvis. ;)

Yes, and white people would never have heard black music had it not been for Elvis bringing it to them, hence my Lawrence Welk remark. Remember, segregation was the norm back then.

[higher4hockey]

i dont think elvis was overrated. he did something that had not yet been done in popular music. Elvis is the original rock-star.

[MadSativa]

I would have never thought, I would have seen Tool,Nirvana, Pinkfloyd, AC/DC, Elvis!, Johnny Cash?, and a couple other bands on this list. I could educate a bit but its not worthit, put on some HateBreed or Soulfly and OVER SMOKE THE GOVERNMENT.:pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :thumbsup: I hope you dont poisin your minds with pointless propaganda(ie. Brittney, Anna Nicole, Bush, etc.) Just remember in most of their minds you are terrorist because you smoke weed and try to live free. And support our troops they are the true fighters, Most are not over their cause they wanto be their there cause its their job, and bussiness is always dirty for fighter.:apachecopter: :s4: :Tomcat: :stupid:

[MadSativa]

Without Chuck Berry there would be no Elvis. ;)

Dude Chuckberry is bad ass but Elvis was around way before him, Elvis was around befor the War in Germany, Remeber he gave up his carrerr for a while to go fight, could you imagine if your a soldier fighting in Bagdad side by side with Justin Tiberlake Or Snoop Dogg or who ever you listen too. And he would give away his monthly paycheck to his boys in arms in germany, he didnt need the money I know people from back in the day who said the party and good time was always on Elvis.:pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :chainsaw: :vader1: :trooper:

[SonicBloom]

I would have never thought, I would have seen Tool,Nirvana, Pinkfloyd, AC/DC, Elvis!, Johnny Cash?, and a couple other bands on this list. I could educate a bit but its not worthit, put on some HateBreed or Soulfly and OVER SMOKE THE GOVERNMENT.:pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :thumbsup: I hope you dont poisin your minds with pointless propaganda(ie. Brittney, Anna Nicole, Bush, etc.) Just remember in most of their minds you are terrorist because you smoke weed and try to live free. And support our troops they are the true fighters, Most are not over their cause they wanto be their there cause its their job, and bussiness is always dirty for fighter.:apachecopter: :s4: :Tomcat: :stupid:

Stop smoking PCP.

[MadSativa]

PCP? Why would you say? Dude do you even know what PCP does to you?:pimp: :pimp:

[SonicBloom]

Your post made no sense, I mean it almost did, but somewhere in the middle it seemed like you started vomitting violently.

[mirvana]

Jack,

Pink Floyd is soo overrated, there music isnt even "trippy" nor is it the best "chill out" music imo. If you think pink floyd is a good definition of psychedelic rock, you would be sadly mistaken if you listened to some real phych rock or post-rock. Sorry but idk where your from, the "hippys" at my school hype up floyd like crazy so i dont really know where you live that people overlook them. I wish i lived there. (im not tryin to start a thread war so dont take it like that)

i suppose it could be a matter of opinion, but you definitely need to LISTEN to pink floyd. "money" and "wish you were here" are not trippy, and i am assuming that that is the kind of pink floyd you have listened to. listen to some interstellar overdrive. listen to the piper at the gates of dawn. listen to that shit when you're stoned and you tell me that pink floyd isn't trippy.
watch pink floyd live at pompeii too.

the thing is, pink floyd isn't even one of my favorite bands, i'm not saying this to defend pink floyd, i'm telling you to get your facts straight. give their good music a fricking chance before you tell me that they're overrated.

[Oh F Yeah]

cuz calling me stupid is soo logical, it can not only BE proven, but it has, by someone whos never met me beore.
Sonicbloom, your music is soooo boring and monotonis, atleast your clever pirate song is. Your lyrics are soooooooo much better than nirvanas, i mean, how could someones lyrics that accualy make you think to understand and relate to them be better than someone whos lyrics are so blatantly obvious that a 4 year old could understand them. I mean, if your making music in the first place wouldnt you want it to be for the people who appreciate music and not any douche who has a computer?? ide rather listen to pink floyd then visit your myspace ever again.
and uhh btw Nirvanas on your influences, idk if you were aware of that

Well......I got this far ^ before I felt compelled to comment on Metaphor's mindless dribble. I'm sure this is probably before your time and most likely WAY over your head, but if you are really searching for music (and lyrics) that "actually makes you think to understand and relate to" and is not "blantly obvious that a 4 year old could understand them", then I would respectfully recommend you reconsider your comments regarding Pink Floyd. The below is taken from a site that provides backround/history/information/thoughts regarding Pink Floyds' "Animals" albumn/cd. And if you haven't smoked a fatty....closed your eyes....and NOT found Animals "trippy" enough for you, then sir.......you don't know what "trippy" is and in fact....have probably never actually tripped. Good day.

"Pink Floyd is most recognized for their biggest commercial successes, 1973â??s Dark Side of the Moon and 1979â??s The Wall. Though between these, two other albums were released. The first was 1975â??s Wish You Were Here, a laid back album dedicated to former bandleader Syd Barrett (who's mental deterioration from by excessive LSD use in the 60â??s was responsible for his inability to perform). But lost somewhere in their long list of landmark albums is 1977â??s "Animals" which has been called "the forgotten album". Like many Floyd albums, Animals contains a theme thatâ??s clear in concept and vast in execution. It was their response to Englandâ??s huge anti-progressive rock punk phenomenon lead by Johnny Rotten of The Sex Pistols. This was the first album where the power started shifting toward bassist and lyricist Roger Waters which would ultimately lead to Waterâ??s departure in 1983. While making the album Waters even said, "the idea of power I find rather appealing in a strange way."

Waters was partly inspired by George Orwellâ??s political fable Animal Farm in which people are divided up into groups represented by animals. While Orwell was focusing on Communism, Roger was criticizing his own Capitalist government. In Floydâ??s version the people are either Dogs, Pigs, or Sheep. The pigs are tyrannical, self-righteous hypocrites forcing their beliefs on the dogs and sheep; the dogs are greedy money-grubbing cutthroats; and the sheep are the mindless followers who are used and abused by the others. The albumâ??s cover-art depicts a large pig floating over the popular London historical landmark the Battersea Power Station. The station, which is considered a decaying symbol of modern age, was on itâ??s 50th anniversary when the album was released. Instead of saving money by using trick photography they constructed a giant 40-foot inflatable pig and floated it over the huge power plant".

[mirvana]

giant pigs are trippy, see?

[Oh F Yeah]

^ Shallow......very shallow. If that's all you got out of the post....then ...well.....nevermind.

******shakes his head in amazement*****

Then chuckles.

[Metaphor]

Well......I got this far ^ before I felt compelled to comment on Metaphor's mindless dribble. I'm sure this is probably before your time and most likely WAY over your head, but if you are really searching for music (and lyrics) that "actually makes you think to understand and relate to" and is not "blantly obvious that a 4 year old could understand them", then I would respectfully recommend you reconsider your comments regarding Pink Floyd. The below is taken from a site that provides backround/history/information/thoughts regarding Pink Floyds' "Animals" albumn/cd. And if you haven't smoked a fatty....closed your eyes....and NOT found Animals "trippy" enough for you, then sir.......you don't know what "trippy" is and in fact....have probably never actually tripped. Good day.

you and mirvana,

i want both of you to know that ive heard piper at the gates of dawn, "interstellar overdrive", meddle, animals, saucerful of secrets and yeah. i listened to them, with my eyes closed, (gasp) and i find them mildly vaguely trippy, if that.

i dont consider that tippy at all lol. if you wanna hear real trippy music. why dont you get out of the 70's. theres only a few bands of that era that i have respect for, mainly only "Can". Do you not think can is trippier than floyd??? perhaps you should go download Tango Mango by them. not trippy enough for you?

maybe you should step foward in time to the 1992 and get a copy if Loveless by My Bloody Valentine, that is some true psychedelic music. Or maybe you should get some Explosions in the Sky, its similar to your precious floyd, witout words its 100x trippier.

Godspeed You Black Emperor!, Boards of canada, Heavy Vegetable, Velvet Acid Christ. i could ramble for days. on only the truest psychedelic bands. so please, dont tell me i dont know what psychedelic rock is. Your Brainwashed. I bet you hate all the popular music nowadays right? well wtf do you think classic rock was, it was fukin pop music of the 70's. The fans flocked to woodstock just like they flock to warped tour. so why is classic rock soo good? Ooh yeah, its old. that must be it.

on a side note, ive tripped on quite a few substances quite a few times. more than enough times. and i will again.

[Arklenao2]

acdc, and whenever it happened, the baja men

[higher4hockey]

you think AC/DC is overrated? wow man, that surprises me.


question~ are you old enough to drink? and if you are , have you never heard 'if you want blood' at the bar around 1:30 when everyone is good and wasted?

[halfassedjediknight]

ive sported a giant acdc sticker on the rear windshield of my car since high school.

it will never be removed.

fuckin thunderstruck!

[higher4hockey]

T-N-T DI-NO-MITE

[Oh F Yeah]

you and mirvana,

i want both of you to know that ive heard piper at the gates of dawn, "interstellar overdrive", meddle, animals, saucerful of secrets and yeah. i listened to them, with my eyes closed, (gasp) and i find them mildly vaguely trippy, if that.

i dont consider that tippy at all lol. if you wanna hear real trippy music. why dont you get out of the 70's. theres only a few bands of that era that i have respect for, mainly only "Can". Do you not think can is trippier than floyd??? perhaps you should go download Tango Mango by them. not trippy enough for you?

maybe you should step foward in time to the 1992 and get a copy if Loveless by My Bloody Valentine, that is some true psychedelic music. Or maybe you should get some Explosions in the Sky, its similar to your precious floyd, witout words its 100x trippier.

Godspeed You Black Emperor!, Boards of canada, Heavy Vegetable, Velvet Acid Christ. i could ramble for days. on only the truest psychedelic bands. so please, dont tell me i dont know what psychedelic rock is. Your Brainwashed. I bet you hate all the popular music nowadays right? well wtf do you think classic rock was, it was fukin pop music of the 70's. The fans flocked to woodstock just like they flock to warped tour. so why is classic rock soo good? Ooh yeah, its old. that must be it.

on a side note, ive tripped on quite a few substances quite a few times. more than enough times. and i will again.


It's all good! Not stuck in the 70's.......just started there. Have traveled many roads and seen many things. I love all music and believe it or not, enjoy much (okay...some) of what my 15yo and 26yo daughter enjoys. Much of it will not stand the test of time, but it's all good because much of what I enjoyed "back in the day" didn't either (***gasp***Ted Nugent, Robin Trower, Styx, 38 Special, etc.). I consider myself well-rounded with some of my favorite current rock being Audioslave, Seether, 3 Doors Down, Evansblue, etc. It may be kind of "popish" for your tastes, but hey...I don't trip much anymore. lol All I was trying to convey, I guess, was ease up a bit on your bashing. I may not have the same respect for what....Velvet Acid Christ?.....but I DO respect your right to love them.

And to answer the question originally posted......I think LIVE has to be my pick for overrated. Yeah, I know they are not THAT big, but I swear....they would come out with a decent song that would get some air play and sound pretty good. I would go out and buy the cd just to find that was the ONLY song that was worth a shit. They caught me like that twice that I can remember. NEVER AGAIN! My disdain for LIVE is equaled only by my loathing for the acting of Lou Diamond Phillips!

lmao

Peace and love. Peace and love!

[naturesgift]

Alright, first off, everyone CHILL.

This thread is packed with personal insults, and it's bullshit. If you can't get your point across without insulting someone, DO NOT RESPOND.

It's high time everyone GROW UP and learn to respond with a little maturity.

I won't close the thread, but I probably should. This is a warning though: if you feel the need to insult someone, do it another place. I'm sick and tired of seeing a bunch of high-and-mighty members feel the need to insult everyone else. Everyone has different opinions/tastes in music, so learn to DEAL WITH IT.

So if you receive an infraction for personal insults, don't come crying to us. Our actions are never unjust, nor do they EVER warrant an explanation as to why you received them. You break the rules, you pay the price.

That said, I hope things have settled down.

Have a good one. :jointsmile:

Sorry brother i didn't mean to insult you personally ,yes i was drunk when i posted which is no excuse ,i am as sensitive as a a brick but when pink floyd is mentioned i become quite irate as they are my favourite band and i would like to apologise to you ,mods , and every member on cann'.com for my behaviour.

[mattmao]

the beatels followed by tool!!

[mattmao]

First of all I'm not 16.

Secocndly i know quite well what pink floyd did for music, they started a new genre basicly. Showing people that not all rock has to be loud and full of profanity. Popularizing concept albums. However the question was, what is the most overrated band, and i gave my aneswer, from song to song its basicly the same. The music is so mundane and boring, i dont know how anyone would consider it trippy, let alone "good". They may have started a revouloution, but the music sucks.

If you think Pink Floyd isnt overrated you have to be totally ignorant when it comes to music. Most people that enjoy pink floyd & take my words for blasphamy probably dont know the first thing about rock music in general. (by this i mean you only know classic rock) Grow out of shell and get off the classic rock bandwagon. They might have been good at the time, but now there washed up.

Theres a ton of genres & subgenres in rock music. People like you make me sick when you confide yourself to one single genre and imediatley dismiss anything that wasnt written in the 70's or played with a bitchin guitar solo.
I could rattle off bands that would make any floyd fans drop a steamer in their pants, however not everyone should know about these bands, especially if you dont have a deep, passionate love for music as a whole.

But what the hell, why dont i spark up a bowl and go listen to Darkside of the Moon. Again. like omFG Da BellLZzz In Tyme R BuGgInnnNN...
pink floyds as mundane as the day is long

to sat pink floyd are washed up is a very sad thing to say,lets get real the most played song all over the usa is imagine by john lennon the most overated individual in history

[higher4hockey]

mattmao ~ just out of curiosity , how old are you ?

[Goin_easy]

I dont know if this has already been said. But I think Greenday is the most over rated band. I loved there music when I was younger (dookie album) but not anymore. They are great in concert though.

[Hansel]

Tool, followed closely by Nirvana..

[rebgirl420]

OMG YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY! TOOL is the best band ever!

[logie_boy]

MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE

[Duke Street Kings]

Jack,

Pink Floyd is soo overrated, there music isnt even "trippy" nor is it the best "chill out" music imo. If you think pink floyd is a good definition of psychedelic rock, you would be sadly mistaken if you listened to some real phych rock or post-rock. Sorry but idk where your from, the "hippys" at my school hype up floyd like crazy so i dont really know where you live that people overlook them. I wish i lived there. (im not tryin to start a thread war so dont take it like that)

How sad. Pink Floyd made precisely two distinct psychedelic records at the beginning of their career, and they are the ones you almost never hear on radio. After that, they transitioned to something far more substantial when Roger Waters took over as a lyricist.

Pink Floyd's virtues have little to do with psychedelia, overall (You can call DSOTM, WYWH, Animals, The Wall, and The Final Cut psychedelic all you want, but in point of fact, these albums are best understood without even considering any kind of drug element. These are songs about humanity, not some nether realm of hallucinations.)

Pink Floyd is about atmosphere, intelligent lyrics, and musicianship. I first experienced Pink Floyd long before I tried any kind of intoxicant and I feel bad for people who think that that's what they're about or that's what they're good for. More people miss the true beauty of Pink Floyd specifically because they've been preconditioned to listen to them as part of a drug experience (Not that I'm hostile to doing that, but more people have completely missed the point of Pink Floyd's lyrics because of their association with drug culture, than just about any other band).

Dark Side of the Moon is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, popular music commentary on 20th Century human existence. If you missed that, I just feel bad for you, and I don't mean that in an insulting way.

People are always looking into Pink Floyd for some kind of psychedelic meaning - and how sad because the truth of Pink Floyd at their best, has nothing to do with drugs, and everything to do with being a human being on this earth.

Religion, birth, death, war, absence, insanity, fatherlessness, capitalism, time, money...Pink Floyd is about us, in the here and now. The timelessness and universality of their lyrics suggest they will be relevant a hundred years from now, which is more than I can say for most bands.

For people who don't get Pink Floyd, all I can suggest is, put down the bong, and listen - really listen. Read and consider the lyrics if you like. Listen to the arrangements, the surprisingly ordered, watercolor landscapes painted by the band (especially in the studio). Think about how you feel about the world, and whether or not the band is talking about *you*.

They probably are. Because they're talking about all of us.

The press and stoners have always represented PF as psychedelic music - they, themselves, do not consider themselves that way. Don't blame them because the public tries to shove them in a box.

[Duke Street Kings]

i suppose it could be a matter of opinion, but you definitely need to LISTEN to pink floyd. "money" and "wish you were here" are not trippy, and i am assuming that that is the kind of pink floyd you have listened to. listen to some interstellar overdrive. listen to the piper at the gates of dawn. listen to that shit when you're stoned and you tell me that pink floyd isn't trippy.
watch pink floyd live at pompeii too.


Yeah, this is stuff in their very early career. I do not think Money is trippy at all. It's about...money. Cash. The accumulation of crap. Wish You Were Here is an acoustic folk song about missing someone. I don't see what's trippy in either case.

Now Interstellar Overdrive and Astronomy Domine, Careful with that Axe Eugene - those are trippy, but they were also made in London in the Swingin' 60s.

Pink Floyd's most substantial output was in the 1970s, and those albums are bitterly serious, and I don't get what they have to do, at all, with drugs or being "trippy" or "psychedelic." In fact, the only overt drug references I can think of offhand are in The Wall, and they seem to be fairly negative.

[Duke Street Kings]

Well......I got this far ^ before I felt compelled to comment on Metaphor's mindless dribble. I'm sure this is probably before your time and most likely WAY over your head, but if you are really searching for music (and lyrics) that "actually makes you think to understand and relate to" and is not "blantly obvious that a 4 year old could understand them", then I would respectfully recommend you reconsider your comments regarding Pink Floyd. The below is taken from a site that provides backround/history/information/thoughts regarding Pink Floyds' "Animals" albumn/cd. And if you haven't smoked a fatty....closed your eyes....and NOT found Animals "trippy" enough for you, then sir.......you don't know what "trippy" is and in fact....have probably never actually tripped. Good day.

Animals is about (a) companionship in a cold world (Pigs on the Wing), (b) the emptiness of a consumptive, competitive, capitalist life, and the disposability of workers (Dogs), (c) Obscenity mavens, censorship, and sexual hypocrisy (Pigs-TDO), (d) Workers uprising and revolution (Sheep).

None of which, to me, have any kind of psychedelic appeal. These are about the relationship of the human soul to a dehumanized, mechanized culture. Animals is more a punk album than it is a psychedelic one, at least lyrically. Musically, it is a progressive rock album, not a psychedelic one.

I'm not saying that you can't enjoy it while high or dig pigs over power stations as a surreal image, but I am saying that if you approach this record expecting to have some kind of psychedelic experience, you're missing the point. In particular the blistering indictment of late capitalism, in terms of what it does to the human spirit.

[OnE NiGhT]

Has any one said Hinder yet? Fuck they remind me of nickelback! and i HATE nickelback!!!

:chainsaw:

[Hi How are you]

To say Nirvana is the most over-rated band ever is probobly the biggest shortcut to thinking I have ever heard, Heres why...

1) NIrvana wasnt about the fastest fucking lick or the longest song. All they were was a new-wave punk group who weremanipulated by the general public and bastardized. Contrary to what people think, Kurt Cobain was a very unique songwriter with an untouchable gift for melody. Just because he was a sloppy guitar player, dosent make them a bad band.

2) Dave Grohl was a fantastic drummer. He had perfect timing and could really wail. The perfrect drummer for the band.

3)JUst because they were popular dosent make them over-rated. If that were the case, I'll find you a million people who think Zeppelin, or Floyd are over-rated. AT least Kurt was original and didn't steal, blantantly, other artists materials.

Its important to realize, that behind all the screaming, and sloppy guitar paying, and strange stage behavior was a very passionate musician who had more heart and soul than 90 % of the performers today. Listen to some of their tunes, they are leaps and vounds bettter than ANYTHING out today. And thats just a FACT!. I havent listend to Nirvana in about 5 years, but they were my favorite band at the time, and I still have a huge amount of respect for their input on not only mainstream music, but the business in general. Nirvana were unique, innovative, passionate and fun. They were the guns n roses you could actually like. I don't think they are the grestest band ever, but they sure as hell arent the most overated..not even close.

[GreenLadyOfDankDowns]

Him

[Fengzi]

As far as who is over-rated or not, most of what I've heard in this thread is really just personal opinion. Time is the real test of whether or not a band is over-rated. The very fact that bands like Pink Floyd, The Beatles, and Led Zeppelin are even being debated here shows that they are not over-rated.
They may not appeal to your personal tastes but the fact remains that they are hugely popular 20-40 years after they made their last recording. That really says something.

Who will be talking about Tool in 30 years? Or Nirvana? We'll have to wait and see. I personnaly don't think anyone will but maybe that's just due to my personal tastes. I'm old enough to remember though, when everyone thought bands like Ratt and Whitesnake were the greatest thing since sliced bread. And where are they now?

[halfassedjediknight]

i think tool is pretty overrated. i used to listen to them in high school. they arent bad or anything, just very overrated. i see a tool shirt everyday.

modest mouse is overrated. they were good when they werent popular..and im not sayign that just because they are popular. listen to their older stuff and you be the judge.

metallica is overrated soooo much. st anger is a buttwipe. bring me back to and justice for all and ill change my mind.

i could go on and on.

[halfassedjediknight]

Who will be talking about Tool in 30 years? Or Nirvana? We'll have to wait and see. I personnaly don't think anyone will but maybe that's just due to my personal tastes. I'm old enough to remember though, when everyone thought bands like Ratt and Whitesnake were the greatest thing since sliced bread. And where are they now?


nirvana ended in 94 and 13 years later i still hear them on the radio. i think theyll be talked about for a looooong time now.

[Fengzi]

nirvana ended in 94 and 13 years later i still hear them on the radio. i think theyll be talked about for a looooong time now.

Maybe, but my personal feeling is that it has a lot more to do with the fact that Cobain ate a shotgun than the music. Not that I don't like some of Nirvana's stuff, and they certainly were very influential. But just look at Pearl Jam; at the time they were as big, if not bigger than Nirvana. Now they're pretty much considered has beens. Certainly they don't have the status that Nirvana does.

It would be interesting to see what would have happened if Cobain was still around. What if it was James Hetfield who took his head off instead of Cabain? Would Nirvana still be putting out good music, or would they be putting out their own version of "St Anger"? Hell, even when In Utero came out people were already starting to say they were going downhill. It does make you wonder. One way or another, it can't be argued that dieing a spectacular death doesn't help record sales.

[JackdaWack]

This has nothing to do with personal feelings or bullshit, Over rating a band has nothing to do about how your feel about there music.

I dont care much for millions of bands but i can still recognize there achievements. Just becuase alot of people over rate pinkfloyd and find them to be gods doesnt mean they are over rated.

Pink floyd and the beatles is just a very good example becuase alot of people like them now decades later. But its not the point who likes them and how many ppeople do and what the people are like who like them. Its strickly on how they manipulate their forms of music into the industry. Pink floyd and the beatles have every right to be rated highly, if u cared to look into music and how people influence it, u will see millions of bands are influence on these two.

Shut up if you dont like the music or the people who like the music. Its not your place to say there overrated, esp when they have done more for music then most shitty bands you probably like and hold higher.

This has nothing to do with personal feelings, what makes a band good is not who listens to it, its how the band effects the music.

The doors, the beatles, pinkfloyd, bob marley, elvis, jimi H.

they all changed music, who gives a fuck what people think, there in my book becuase of what they have done for music, not how people like them or dislike them.

You cannot over rate a band who has done so much for the music industry, even if people are extremely over ecstatic about them.

If you dont think pink floyd is psyh. rock, ur living under a fuckin rock.

[thcbongman]

So is Elvis influencial to music because he mimiced and to an extent plagerized the style off black blue musicians? If there wasn't a racial parity in those days, would you even have heard of Elvis? Probably not.

Just because a band is popular doesn't mean it has an impact on music. Are you saying Britney is making waves with music? Absolutely not.

I'm not trying to discredit great musicians and bands such as Bob Marley, Pink Floyd, Jimmy, The Doors, or The Beatles. They each were popular for a reason, each were damn good and their sound has mass appeal to people.

However, all I read is you trying to equate influence with popularity. That could be further from the truth.

Each artist, has multiple influences that derive from both popular and obscure music. It's unfair to say only the popular bands have the most impact.

What about guys who never had commercial success, but later won critical acclaim for their impact on music, even spawning separate genres? You heard of The Velvet Underground, the godfather of multiple genres of rock? Or Brian Eno, who is considered the godfather is not only electronica, but new wave, and glam rock? Just because a band never had commercial success doesn't mean their impact on music was any less than The Beatles or Jimmy.

[cannabis=freedom]

The Rolling Stones are a good band, but I never get why they're always considered THE BEST. Bands like Zeppelin, Floyd and Aerosmith made a better sound and showcased much more versatility (most notably Zeppelin, who played everything from plain old hard rock to blues to reggae to soft and tender songs).

[thcbongman]

How sad. Pink Floyd made precisely two distinct psychedelic records at the beginning of their career, and they are the ones you almost never hear on radio. After that, they transitioned to something far more substantial when Roger Waters took over as a lyricist.


No, what he's trying to say is psychedelic music has progressed so much from the days of Pink Floyd. In comparison to the psychedelia coming out today, Pink Floyd is hardly psychedelic. Hey, Pink Floyd is a great band, but hardly the only and best psychedelic music out there. I listened to all their albums religiously when I was younger. They are a great band. But if you choose to get yourself stuck on Pink Floyd, well it's your loss.

Even in the days of Pink Floyd, they had competition, MC5, Strawberry Alarm Clock etc. Great psychedelic bands.

I suggest you pick up these records, Loveless by My Bloody Valentine, Tales Of The Inexpressible by Shpongle, In The Aeroplane Over The Sea by Neutral Milk Hotel, Wonderful Rainbow by Lightning Bolt, Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven by Godspeed You Black Emperor or any live Phish album.

The psychedelia in these 5 records vastly differ in style and contrast. But you'll see how far psychedelic music has progressed Open your eyes a little to see psychedelic music other than Pink Floyd.

[Goddess of Green]

i always found Tom petty overrated. also, i agree with ac/dc and pretty much everything on manstream radio nowadays

[Its a Plant]

Lol...man Floyd is weak. Tool, again, just isn't nearly as good as all the young tween fans would say...

That's all I gotta say about that. ~

[Hi How are you]

Zeppelin and Skynard are the most over rated bands EVER.

[TOOL9]

Lol...man Floyd is weak. Tool, again, just isn't nearly as good as all the young tween fans would say...

That's all I gotta say about that. ~

Your avatar is hilarious

[stayripped]

all the emo shit and preppy shit thats all over mtv like fall out boy ...................... If any1 went to ozzfest last year the one in west palm disturbed was talking about all the emo shit and reffered them as "taste makers" and got the hole crowd chanting "fuck the taste makers". I just cant stand listening to it , all of it sounds the same.

[WalkaWalka]

emo is crap
Zeppelin is the greatest thing ever and those who have spoken against them shall be struck down by the rock gods. Really the most overrated to me is fucking Metallica.

[Metaphor]

sorry for reviving this dead thread but i was just listening to Rush. they definatly gotta be on this list

[Metaphor]

oh god its like pencils in my ears

[affasd]

led zeppelin

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

AC/DC, undboutedly. I used to enjoy them, particularily Bon Scott stuff which is actually decent, but after Back in Black they had no creativity. Every song was the exact same forumla:

Rhythm
chorus
rhythm
chorus
short solo
chorus
rhythm.

Every song, period; there's no innovation or varriation to be had, and I own about 12 AC/DC albums.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Oh and U2. What a bunch of generic, formulaic, feel-good rock made for the radio (radio sucks, in general).

[cm8883]

U2 and Stones

[psychocat]

Oh and U2. What a bunch of generic, formulaic, feel-good rock made for the radio (radio sucks, in general).


With you on that one man.
I also include
The Beatles
Nirvana
Oasis

[FlyGuyOU]

The eagles

[the image reaper]

Grateful Dead ... :hippy:

[pochon]

whats overrated? a band thats listened to and enjoyed thoroughly in all aspects of its music by a looooot of people? each band has its own. id ban that term

[Metaphor]

whats overrated? a band thats listened to and enjoyed thoroughly in all aspects of its music by a looooot of people? each band has its own. id ban that term

overrate

Main Entry:
over·rate Listen to the pronunciation of overrate
Pronunciation:
\ˈō-vər-ˌrāt\
Function:
transitive verb
Date:
1610

: to rate, value, or estimate too highly <overrates his importance to the team>

[Barrelhse]

Frampton by a mile.

[JaySpliff]

OMG YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY! TOOL is the best band ever!

I know eh!!!! I can into this thread expecting to see Pink Floyd and Beatles and the such, but never Tool!! FYI, Tool and Pink Floyd are my two favourite bands, and everytime I listen to it, it's like the first time I'm hearing it...just amazing.

...of course to each his own


Lol...man Floyd is weak. Tool, again, just isn't nearly as good as all the young tween fans would say...

That's all I gotta say about that. ~
...:eek: Well sir, while I may not agree with what you say I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

and That's all I gotta say about that:jointsmile:

[ReUp]

Amy Winehouse.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

U2 by far.

We had a local radio station do a countdown of the greatest guitare players ever, rated by the listeners. and the edge was rated in the top 10. Give me a break. The Edge only knows maybe 10 chords and plays them over and over. And he is on record as saying that! If it were not for Bono's song writting and singing ability they would be nothing.

[logie_boy]

U2 i think

[Cannabis-Sativa]

99% of the bands that have produced music from the year 2000 and up.

i aggre but i would say more like 60 percent

[akimbo1013]

Wow this has been the most unbelievably retarded thread I have ever read. Out of all the crap that is out there right now, people are saying pink floyd and the beatles are the most overrated bands. How about anything thats on mtv now or van halen or anything emo, now that is true crap. For stoners I thought you guys would know more about music. Floyd and the beatles became legends because they actually know how to compose songs and play their instruments instead of just strumming chords like fallout boy and other completely terrible bands like them. You guys do realize that floyd recorded more than just darkside and the wall right? Go listen to meddle or animals and then try to tell me their overrated.

[akimbo1013]

After careful consideration I like to add Miles Davis, Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Herbie Hancock, Coltrane, Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Frank Zappa, Johnny Cash, Funkadelic, Muddy waters, B.B. King, Wu-tang, Soundgarden, Black Sabbath, a tribe called quest, the talking heads, and the roots to this completely retarded list

[yokinazu]

i like the way that most of these bands n this list are the succesful ones that sold a lot of records and made a lot of money. now i know that making money does not equal talent. but a lotof these mentioned are bands that changed the sound of rock. take for example hendrix. first person to use effects on the guitar extensivly. the pedals and effects he used are standard now. before a band makes it big people will love them then when they hit it big they become overrated sell outs.

overrated is an opinion. for instance if you live in place where all you hear abou is one guy then he becomes overrate to you. but introduce him somewhere alse and he is great.

in my opinion kid rock is way overrated as is ANY rapper (not saying kid rock is a rapper).

as far as the grateful dead they are provaby one of the most underrated bands in rock. i can understand tho that opinion bein from someone from cali tho. they created an entire genra of music. but yet on mainstream radio they may play 2 or 3 songs by them
"the grateful dead are not the best at what they do. they are the only ones that do what they do." - bill graham

[akimbo1013]

i like the way that most of these bands n this list are the succesful ones that sold a lot of records and made a lot of money. now i know that making money does not equal talent. but a lotof these mentioned are bands that changed the sound of rock. take for example hendrix. first person to use effects on the guitar extensivly. the pedals and effects he used are standard now. before a band makes it big people will love them then when they hit it big they become overrated sell outs.

I was being sarcastic in my last post, but did somebody actually put down hendrix as the most overrated artist (didn't read all the posts). Now that is just foolish. Worst. Thread. Ever.

[EbelEyes]

Tool. 10,000 Days sounds like it was made for money.

[hybridlove420]

this is pretty shoddy thread. floyd is everything its said to be. go listen to the wall or dark side in thier entirity before being an ass.

in my mind, the most overrated 100% goes to Soulja Boy. "supersoak that ho"??? its got the dumbest lyrics ive heard in a song, and its all about having sex and supermanning....

[TOOL9]

Damn, surprised to see this thread is still going. but yea.... i change my mind to souja boy. He really is complete shit.

[Purple Banana]

Floyd is not all about Dark Side and The Wall... People don't listen to Meddle, Saucerful of Secrets, Piper at the Gate of Dawn, More, Obscured By Clouds- THOSE are the more psychedelically-based albums. Echoes is a fantastic song. My favorite album is Meddle; The Wall and Dark Side are great, but they don't have the early kind of space-rock feel.

I think Beyonce is overrated... Yeah, she's got a good voice, but everything sounds the same, and she's too showy for me.

[akimbo1013]

Floyd is not all about Dark Side and The Wall... People don't listen to Meddle, Saucerful of Secrets, Piper at the Gate of Dawn, More, Obscured By Clouds- THOSE are the more psychedelically-based albums. Echoes is a fantastic song. My favorite album is Meddle; The Wall and Dark Side are great, but they don't have the early kind of space-rock feel.


Exactly what I said PB. Good stuff. My favorite has got to be either meddle or animals.

[Its a Plant]

When I say Floyd is overrated, I stand by it, and this is why: I hear far too many young stoner kids hype them up for one, spouting off shit about how Dark Side changed their lives. I think most people fall in love with Floyd because they're not exposed to anything else because PF is just so easily accessible.

I'll agree with you guys that DS isn't my favorite album, and I definitely have listened to all their albums. I just think that their far too overplayed and played up to be this amazing thing, and I just can't see it.

There are plenty of better psychadelic bands out there, both past and present, that don't get nearly the recognition they deserve because of Floyd and their continuing reputation as a stoner's "best friend." That shit drives me crazy because first off, their stuff really isn't all that mind-blowing or technically outstanding. It's a little too abstract for my liking, I'm sorry to say. Groundbreaking, most definitely, which is why I show respect, but not to some 15 year old sporting his fresh Dark Side shirt with his hemp necklace on. Syd was the man, basically, and if he had stuck around longer than he did, I'm sure I'd have different feelings on them. Anything with Syd tho, I can dig. Just not in excess. Small doses of Floyd, please.

/end rant.

Carry on. :jointsmile:

[L Rag]

My Chemical Romance

[ghosty]

Kiss...
come on there was I wanna rock and roll all night, and maybe detroit rock city.. but aside from those 2 they are SO lame. Gene Simmons is a total douchebag too, has said in interviews even he cares more about the money than the music...

[Metaphor]

oh man pink floyd is so annoying. There fans are so rediculous. They blindly defend pink floyd by saying something like "there not all dark side and the wall". Well you guys, ive listened to meddle, saucerful of secrets, piper at the gates of dawn all that shit. Numerous times. I too used to think they were the shit, no doubt. I would say things like "if you dont love pink floyd your listening to much to much hip hop and warped tour garbage". I soon found out that there were many other genres, theres sublayers, entire universes of music that lay beneath the mainstream. There always have been but by way of the internet artists that cant get signed to record lables due to extensive original and/or individual sounds can get there sounds out to the world. Eventually they [pink floyd] got blown out of my brain by massive amounts of greater music. Much more psychedelic, stuff that pink floyd cant even hold a candle to. So when someone tells me that im listening to too much mtv because i dont like pink floyd, i'll put on some B**** P*** and in a few seconds when they stick their fingers in their ears it'll fell mushy. Because there brain just got raped.

Pink floyds fans are typically the kinds of people that say they listen to a everything except country. Classic rock, early 90s rock, radiohead, oldschool rap and tool are not everything except country, im sorry.

to sum this up. Dont assume im not as musically advanced as you are because i dont like pink floyd. Its more like i surpassed you so extensively that your caught in the dust trying to pick yourself up and cursing at the world, blaming other things for your problems and insecurities.

[JihadJoe75]

There's no point arguing about music. Everyone has their own personal preferences as what genre's and bands they like.

Just try to keep an open mind [and ears too] when your listening. :jointsmile:

[Purple Banana]

Pink floyds fans are typically the kinds of people that say they listen to a everything except country. Classic rock, early 90s rock, radiohead, oldschool rap and tool are not everything except country, im sorry.

to sum this up. Dont assume im not as musically advanced as you are because i dont like pink floyd. Its more like i surpassed you so extensively that your caught in the dust trying to pick yourself up and cursing at the world, blaming other things for your problems and insecurities.

Does it honestly matter how diverse your music tastes are? I DO happen to listen to everything but country, including (but not limited to) classic metal, trip hop, ska, hip hop, rap, grunge, alt rock, showtunes, classic rock, folk, rock rap, a very large margin of soundtrack music, classical music, pop, soul, techno, jazz, piano, vocal, Italian/French/Spanish opera/operetta, symphony orchestrations, a capella, Swahili tribal music (Like Lebo M and Khululiwe Sithole), parody, ambient, and yes, even polka. Hell, I listen to classic country though, like a mixture of the Eagles and some folk singers. I don't listen to tiny tidbits of each genre, rather, I am constantly listening to music.

I really like Floyd. I'm not saying there isn't better stuff out there, because there IS. But putting people down and accusing them of being narrow-minded and inferior in music variety simply because they say Floyd is the best band they've heard so far is utterly ridiculous. As I've mentioned before, Metaphor, I usually love your other posts, but you just come off as very boorish in this thread.

[hybridlove420]

ive listened to many floyd songs, but my favorites are dark side and the wall.

dark side just has such an interesting, outoftouch feel to it....

[akimbo1013]

loyd] Pink floyds fans are typically the kinds of people that say they listen to a everything except country. Classic rock, early 90s rock, radiohead, oldschool rap and tool are not everything except country, im sorry.

to sum this up. Dont assume im not as musically advanced as you are because i dont like pink floyd. Its more like i surpassed you so extensively that your caught in the dust trying to pick yourself up and cursing at the world, blaming other things for your problems and insecurities.

I as well am not trying to say that pink floyd is the greatest band to ever walk the earth, but I am saying that with all the crappy overrated bands out there (i.e. 80's hair bands, boy bands, emo crap, and all the gimmick rock and fake rap thats on mtv to name a few), you decide to choose the beatles and floyd, two of the biggest and most influential bands ever to call the MOST OVERRATED OF ALL TIME. You may not like them, but you have to respect what they did for the music scene. Lastly I never assumed anything about you, so you shouldn't assume that just because I like floyd I don't have my ears in the underground scene. 90% of the music I listen to isn't "radio friendly". And yes I do listen to pretty much all genres, it just depends on my mood. Lately I've been on a jazz, afrobeat and hip hop bender. Jazz to relax and afrobeat and hip hop for more upbeat occasions. I'm makin some brownies and going to see ween tonight. I went to see a great latin jazz/salsa/funk band called grogus last night. Don't assume my musical tastes aren't as diverse as yours just because I listen to floyd.

[Metaphor]

damn. its just that, i dunno. I dont got much love for pink floyd. I got so bored of them. The reason i say there the most overrated band is because all these little 15 year olds talkin about how amazing pink floyd is because its the [one of if not the] only psychedelic rock band theyve heard of. Pink Floyd seems to me like there the sell outs of psychedelic rock, and in my eyes thats alot worse than selling out music thats not supposed to be appreciated as an art form.[as opposed to selling out music that had no intention of being something 'groundbreaking']

I mean do you really have to say that mtv music is overrated? i mean you can, but EVERYONE with a half descent music taste understands that. To be quite frank, i dont even acknowledge that garbage as music.

[akimbo1013]

I mean do you really have to say that mtv music is overrated? i mean you can, but EVERYONE with a half descent music taste understands that. To be quite frank, i dont even acknowledge that garbage as music.

I agree 100% on that. I also agree that a lot of floyds stuff is way overplayed and especially true in high school. Honestly I rarely even listen to floyd that much. I've heard all of there albums so many times, but its still great to put in every now and then when your in the mood.

[silkyblue]

sex pistols are way over rated ----->

[silkyblue]

also 'System of a Down'

[Acouwaila]

You cant say "MTV Music" man....MTV plays all different music...it dont matter if its justim timberlake or fuckin anything else....All of it IS a production of music, and whether its mainstream or not, its a piece of music...it was at some point created by someone...im just saying, a lot of the mainstream music is mainstream because its good shit, and people can recognize it....Not all MTV Music is con music....A lot of the bands did write their own shit...music isnt an argument man....music is for music....why are you worried about bands other people like? Music isnt about who likes what who likes who, and no one gives a shit what you think. Sry but its true...anyone who listens to music has some kind of interest in it so thats why they LIKE it....they dont like it cuz everyone else does....usually if everyone else does, and THEY want to...they will start listening...and if they like it they keep listening if they dont, they stop....its all honest man

[Acouwaila]

system of a down isnt overated btw....they are pretty kick ass

recognize

[hippy lettuce]

U2, Pink Floyd, Coldplay anything emo and that fucking junkie mess Pete Doherty.

[Acouwaila]

This the best line in any song by far

in a justim timberlake song he says

"If I wrote you a symphony"

Im sorry, thats the most completely rediculous fucking lyric in any song ever fucking written, the prize goes to timberlake for that one.....fucking stupid

[RedKrayola]

I don't think that pink floyd is overrated its just that there are more bands during the 60's like pink floyd that deserve more credit and fame than pink floyd like the misunderstood or the united states of america

[Darth Vapor]

For my money, back in my day, The Cure is the worst band ever. Absolutely unlistenable.

[yokinazu]

For my money, back in my day, The Cure is the worst band ever. Absolutely unlistenable.
Jan-28-2008 22:43


what amazes me is that these mediocre 80s bands are consider great now when inthe 80s they were barely listenable, the cure bein one of them

[thcbongman]

sex pistols are way over rated ----->

No way dude.

[r0k]

I honestly got a good kick out of reading this thread.. The Beatles, Pink Floyd, the Dead.. Overrated? LOL! :thumbsup:

[thcbongman]

After careful consideration I like to add Miles Davis, Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Herbie Hancock, Coltrane, Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Frank Zappa, Johnny Cash, Funkadelic, Muddy waters, B.B. King, Wu-tang, Soundgarden, Black Sabbath, a tribe called quest, the talking heads, and the roots to this completely retarded list

I hope you are being sarcastic.

The Roots ok, and Soundgarden maybe, but everything else you listed you gotta be kidding me.

Then again, this entire thread is based on relativity.

[Metaphor]

I honestly got a good kick out of reading this thread.. The Beatles, Pink Floyd, the Dead.. Overrated? LOL! :thumbsup:

lol, i get a kick out of statements like that one.

[GreatOutdoors]

I wouldn't say that Pink Floyd is overrated, I'd say that they're overplayed. While it is annoying that every high schooler drools over Dark Side Of The Moon when Animals and Wish You Were Here are so much better and other progressive bands like King Crimson, Yes, Explosions In The Sky, The Mars Volta...etc are just as good if not better, they still deserve credit for their brilliant studio work and live performances.

For overrated bands I'd go with:
Nickelback (every song is the exact same thing)
Raq (complete rip off of Phish, no originality)
Jack Johnson (not talentless but Xavier Rudd and Ben Harper are much better)

[akimbo1013]

I hope you are being sarcastic.

The Roots ok, and Soundgarden maybe, but everything else you listed you gotta be kidding me.

Then again, this entire thread is based on relativity.


After careful consideration I like to add Miles Davis, Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Herbie Hancock, Coltrane, Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Frank Zappa, Johnny Cash, Funkadelic, Muddy waters, B.B. King, Wu-tang, Soundgarden, Black Sabbath, a tribe called quest, the talking heads, and the roots to this completely retarded list

Yea man, I was being completely sarcastic. That shit is my bread and butter

[Burnt Toast]

Even though a solo performer and not a band, its suprising that Britney Spears hasnt been mentioned yet.

..or even Hannah Montana :p

[jessem98]

NIRVANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and U2 - F*ck Bono, thinks hes god (not to say i dont appreciate his charitable works) but hes NOTHING special vocally, and U2 is just repulsive music...

[RedKrayola]

The most overrated band ever is definitly Insane Clown Posse & U2. ICP is just so goddamn gay and there songs suck. Bono is the biggest piece of shit ever and I think he is represented perfectly in that South Park episode.

[smokey91]

Rock in general is overrated. I could never get high to that shit. But thats just me.:cool:

[silkyblue]

The most overrated band ever is definitly Insane Clown Posse & U2. ICP is just so goddamn gay and there songs suck. Bono is the biggest piece of shit ever and I think he is represented perfectly in that


what have you did for the poor starving folk? Huh!

U2 is God man! are ya kiddin me! Joshua Tree!

thats lame to include U2 in this cat ~ clown posse yes ! they got problems its plain to see!



U2! for you


Running to Stand Still
------- -- ----- -----

And so she woke up, woke up from where she was lying still, said I

got to do something about where we're going.

Step on a steam train, step out of the driving rain, maybe

run from the darkness in the night, singing

ah, ah la la la de day

ah la la la de day, ah la la de day

Sweet the sin, but bitter the taste in my mouth.

I see seven towers, but I only see one way out.

You got to cry without weeping, talk without speaking,

scream without raising your voice,

you know I took the poison,

from the poison stream, then I floated out of here, singing

ah, ah la la la de day
ah la la la de day, ah la la de day

oooh, oooh, oooh

She runs through the street with her eyes painted red

under black belly of cloud in the rain
in through the doorway she brings me
white gold and pearls, stolen from the sea, she is raging

she is raging, and the storm blows up in her eyes, she will
suffer the needle chill

she's running to stand still
************************************************** ****************************
--- ---- ------ ----

[CultureCherryPopper]

All of you that hate on U2 must be out of your minds. Yes, Bono is a jackass, but I bet some of you like Metallica despite Lars. Yes, their new stuff kinda blows, it happens when you try and modernize am older band, but then again, there's millions of fans that would disagree with that. BUT, any of their older albums are amazing, whether it's Joshua Tree, War, Rattle and Hum, etc. It's undeniable. Oh, and their live performances are out of this world, I mean, they have their own damn concert movie coming out.

Truth is, most of you don't understand the true nature of music, and that is why your definitions of "overrated" as erroneous. Number one thing to remember about music is: it's a business, always has been, always will. Sooner you realize that, the better. Music for music's sake died with jazz.

[suhl]

I hope you are being sarcastic.

The Roots ok, and Soundgarden maybe, but everything else you listed you gotta be kidding me.

Then again, this entire thread is based on relativity.

i wouldnt really say wu tang clan are overrated, but if you are really putting them up there with some of the bands listed then yes, they most definitely are. same with the roots and sound garden, talking heads, peter tosh, tribe c alled quest, etc. seems to me like you decided what great bands were by looking at t-shirts at the local head shop.

and u2 does suck, including those albums. how many times can you use chinga chinga chinga for a guitar riff and still remain huge. apparently infinite

[silkyblue]

u2 does suck




no they dont suhl!

[thedutchess]

ok. someone said wolfmother is overrated. compared to most bands out there today, they are amazing. excellent guitar licks, good lyrics, they have a pretty good rock n roll/classic rock feel that is rare among emerging bands. if you are a musician (esp. guitarists) you can respect what they do...they are extremely talented, and aren't exploited on the radio, tv, etc. so for the word 'overrated', not quite sure about that..

fall out boy wins for most overrated.

[kuyutha]

dragonforce

at least 95% of my friends blow wads into each others mouths over these guys, and to be honest they are lesser friends because of it

[stinkyattic]

Music for music's sake died with jazz.Strong statement there. On one hand, I agree that jazz as a genre, in its glory days, was as pure as blues in its glory days. High quality, low hype musical experience. On the other hand, I wouldn't write jazz off as 'dead' quite yet, although crap acts like KennyG dancing around the edges of the genre make me CRINGE.

I think Nirvana and freakin Creed are by far the most over-rated, and the standard by which I judge this is the ratio of hype to apparent musical talent. It's not [just] that I don't dig the music as much as the media says I should... well, that too... :D

As for all the hatin' on U2, pish posh. Old U2 has great musical merit, no matter what you think of the personalities associated with the band. The songwriting is top notch and it's rare to see a band gain both commercial success and earn respect as a political voice. The Joshua Tree is just a stellar album start to finish. Perhaps if you don't like that sort of rock, you won't get as much out of it as someone who does, but it's excellent; IMHO one of the greatest albums ever recorded in any genre.

And you may notice this thread has gotten a hair shorter... we can't be calling names here and the offender ironically got a warning ON THIS THREAD last YEAR... knock it off.

[stinkyattic]

Okay... well if we want to self-destruct over whether a BAND who doesn't even know we exist on the planet is good... I won't stand in the way.
Please do not re-post deleted posts. The same thing will happen to the new one.

[Reefer Rogue]

Pink Floyd is the best band that ever existed and will ever exist. Its a Plant you are outvoted by millions of fans. They are loved because they are amazing, its a shame you can't see that. Listen again to The Division Bell, Obscured by clouds, Atom heart mother, The final cut, More.. Are you telling me you don't like Shine on you crazy diamond or Echoes?

Most over rated band - The kaiser cheifs

[human8]

My band 3 Headed Cock. Everyone who hears us hails us as the second coming of Barnabus, but I think were waaaaay overrated.

[TheSmokingMonkey]

Oh, but there are so MANY.

The Beatles come to mind. But that's excusable - it was novel and people liked it. It was a new age.

How about Milli Vanilli?

:)

[CultureCherryPopper]

Oh, I know jazz ain't dead, I'm a trumpet player. It's just that commercial music now has lost the thrill of making exciting and bold music, and now bands just chase the dollar. St. Germain did reassure me that jazz is still alive and kicking, and progressing forward. Check our their album Tourist for starters.

I was a music production major and was so disheartened because that was all they preached, "music is a business, we're just trying to get paid like the rest blah blah blah." Business law just made me cry.

Personally I think that because of the limitations of Western music, i.e. the chords and changes used, that music is becoming watered down and repetitive. Ever find yourself where you recognize the bassline of a song? That's my point. After one hundred years of modern music every chord has been played, every chord progression thought up, every rhythm created. Music needs a shake up, a new idea, a spin on what we accept as music. As much as I despise it, John Cage's works could be inspirational to the future. If you're unfamiliar with him, his most famous piece is 4'33". Good luck with that one.

"The first question I ask myself when something doesn't seem to be beautiful is why do I think it's not beautiful. And very shortly you discover that there is no reason."
-Cage

Weird shit, but a brilliant and eloquent man.

[Perp]

I
Oh... and for solo artists... Geez, come ON, ELVIS FREAKIN' PRESLEY...

Umm....no.
Elvis = best entertainer ever.

[stinkyattic]

Elvis = best entertainer ever.
Okay, but that's a different contest! As a MUSICIAN, he was a bit of an over-hyped ripoff act... but I can't argue that as an entertainer he was astoundingly successful. You know those velvet paintings that show him with a tear running down his cheek? I always wondered if it wasn't SWEAT... eww

[Perp]

Well, if a vocalist is a musician, then he was a musician. If you don't consider a vocalist a musician, then so be it. Elvis did play a bit of guitar, BTW.
Some people can write great songs, but don't sound good when playing them. Are they musicians?
I guess Robert Plant was not a musician, since he mostly sang and only played a bit of harmonica here and there.
Oh, and that probably was sweat mixed in with a bit of tears.;)

[stinkyattic]

A vocalist is indeed a musician, but his vocal talent wasn't nearly on par with the hype that followed him.
Robert Plant had extraordinary vocal talent and deserved every bit of the respect given him.
Here's a question for the music buffs... how many of Elvis' songs were actually written by Elvis? :D

[Acouwaila]

Donno^

But jazz in its true form is as pure as blues in its true form. They are both of the soul. Or at least should be. Its hit or miss with jazz and blues musicians...if theyve got the soul they've got blues, if they just IMMITATE jazz and blues then its gonna sound completely fraudulent. A completely fake work of nothingness. a meaningless composition. you got to have the flow...you gotta find the place where the music makes itself you are just the instrument that plays the instrument. Stevie Ray Vaughan had it.

[suhl]

blues is not dead. it is alive and well. in fact, maybe there is no audience that wants to here it outside of me and a few random people i know online who i trade cds with, but i can tell you i have 60+ blues and blues rock albums all made in the last decade that are excellent. to make my point about the audience, i could probably list every single one and no one on this entire board will have heard of them unless they remember a name or two from a previous post. jazz is far from dead as well. im not as big a jazz fan but i have severall good jazz albums that are of this decade and can safely assume there is a lot out there. i get sick of hearing these music purists talk shit about how music is dead. what in the fuck is music for music's sake? do you even know what you mean when you are saying it? please tell me. all the blues players i listen to are pretty unknown and it can't be for the money's sake. and i would like you to look one of them in the eye and say it is for the sake of pride. it is about emotion and playing what you feel and need to play. the only critique you can make on blues today is there is too much rock some, which really isn't a problem unless you are a narrowminded asshole.

so i am not going to speak for anything outside of blues and jazz, but neither are dead, and music as a whole is not dead, so please take your head out of your ass before you make any more simultaneously arrogant and ignorant remarks you miserable piece of shit.

[suhl]

A vocalist is indeed a musician, but his vocal talent wasn't nearly on par with the hype that followed him.
Robert Plant had extraordinary vocal talent and deserved every bit of the respect given him.
Here's a question for the music buffs... how many of Elvis' songs were actually written by Elvis? :D

im not a music buff really or someone that knows anything about elvis, but i'd guess 0

and i stand by what i said, u2 was overrated. they brought politics into music. i get it. they werent the first or the last. none of the band members is a great musician and that goes for bono as a vocalist as well, all decent, and the whole is not greater than the sum of the parts. decent band(though not one that appeals to my tastes) yes, i give them that. deserving of being one of the biggest rock bands ever? that's just insulting to the people that really deserve it.

i was going to edit the miserable piece of shit remark out, but i can't now. i don't know if saying this m akes a difference. what the hell, i meant it. anyone that says music died when jazz died is a miserable fuck.

[MadSativa]

Evananesance.....how ever its spelled I cant stand that band, but people love them, I broke a small work site radio the other day cause it came on and I hoofed the thing over the side of the 12th floor, it landed on a bobcat the driver said WTF when i told him my bad but evanescece was playing he backed up over it a couple times and said theri that ata do it. We still laugh about that

[memoryburner]

Metallica....fall out boy...MCR

[swice1]

99% of the bands that have produced music from the year 2000 and up.

ding ding ding:thumbsup:

[suhl]

ding ding ding:thumbsup:
might as well say 99% of bands that have ever produced music. there is as much or more good music being made now than ever. you have to look. please, there is a saying that goes something like only wise men know how ignorant they really are. that isnt it but that is the general point, and please realize how ignorant you are to all the quality music being made. im through saying the same thing.

[irkenelite]

Definitely TOOL.

I 150% disagree:wtf:

[psychocat]

The Beatles
Pink Floyd
Led Zep
and
Nirvana
were all well over-rated.

[ItzDaGumpz]

its silly to say who is the most overrated, because if music speaks to you, and you enjoy it, there.s no need to put it on any kind of scale. stop rating, stop hating, just enjoy and respect.

the beatles and pink floyd are 2 of my favorite bands, i think they.re geniuses. but i respect those of you who say that they.re overrated, i just think you.re wrong.

[Mr. Clandestine]

I think most rap music in general is overrated nowadays. No offense to rap fans out there, but so much of it is just so damn monotonous. There are a few groups that I've enjoyed over the years, but the stuff I hear today is mind-bogglingly repetitious and droll. "Smoking blunts, doin' blow, smackin' bitches, yo yo yo...", it all seems the same to me. Don't get me wrong, there's still some talent in the rap scene... but it almost seems like having talent has gone out of style.

[az666]

I think U2
Nothing wrong with it though....

[TOOL9]

I 150% disagree:wtf:

LOL Agreed

[SimonSaysSmoke]

Well not a band.... But


HANNAH MONTANA??????????????? WTF!!!

[alexk1ng]

i dont think you can get more overrated than nickelback.

[psychocat]

I think the highest on this list should be

All winners of reality TV pop shows such as Pop Idol
The Spice Girls
Any of the dozens of boybands doing the rounds (think Take That and Backstreet boys)

[Nathan604]

anything emo and acdc is overplayed

[JeffersonBud]

Wow. really sad about some of them. Most listed were pioneers in their genre. While they may not be suitable to your ear, you must not forget their contribution to the industry, the time, and the millions or records sold.

[pass_the_dubbie]

Basically most of the bands you see when you flick onto a music channel or listen to the radio, all those, for want of a better word, emo bands. Time to name a band or two...hmm..Metallica are overrated, regardless of them "selling out" they havent made a decent song in quite some time. Anybody who likes St Anger should be shot...or at least be handed the Ride The Lightning album. However their older material is gold but I can't declare myself a fan of Metallica knowing that they'll never make anything like that again...*sobs*
give me fuel give me fire...ooo...i'd rather not.

[JeffersonBud]

To those you listen the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, I must say with the utmost respect...You don't shit about music. like I said, they may not be a liking to your ear but every one of those musicians were geniuses in the industry. Have you ever watched a live performance of Led Zeppelin before? John Bonham may be the best drummer in the world. He carries a beat better then a metronome. I saw a live set at Bonnaroo last year called the superjam. Questlove from the Roots, John Paul Jones; led zeppelins mastermind, and Ben Harper. Questlove might just be the best drummer I have seen live. i never got a chance to see Zeppelin. I wasn't old enough.
You think they are over rated because of their "airtime" and the fact that they are still played today. Maybe you are sick of them or don't know much about music history but the fact that they are stilled played today, and often, should be a clue to their greatness. Pink Floyd may have been the most progressive band there ever was, and the Beatles, well just because they are the Beatles doesn't mean they are over rated. Live in 1964 and catch the buzz, the mentality, and the influence that band created and tell me they were over rated. people just dont' know shit about music anymore.

[Metaphor]

people just dont' know shit about music anymore.

god damn. sorry mods.
your such an ignoranus. How can someone display such ignorance with such confidence. Truly a remarkable post. How are you going to say that people dont know shit about music because some of your favorite bands are being bashed on a forum? Seriously you need to open your eyes.
"the mentality, and the influence that band created and tell me they were over rated"
Okay. first off what good is leaving influence if your to thick skulled to take time to appreciate those whom they did influence? Thats like paving highways in darfur where nobody has a car; sort of. If they really did open these musical doors atleast show some appreciation to those whom have surpassed them in every way shape & form.
They may have done it first [or stolen it and got famous for it first] but first is nowhere near the best. Think about it, the first airplanes, boats, cars, computers, and houses, there all complete shit compared to the technology we have today and music is no different.
Just because the only modern music youve heard comes from tv or the radio does not mean that it all sounds like that preprocessed punk emo crap or rap about cars bitches and blunts.

Your the ass in clASSic rock. (ba dum pshh)

but fo real, you shouldn't think so highly of yourslef because of your "origional" taste in music then flaunt your ignorance like double d titties. it just makes you look dumb.

oh, im sorry, nothing personal. just dont tell me i dont know shit about music, cuz i probably know more than you ever will.

Peace, Love and Tar.

[JeffersonBud]

These are not my favorite bands nor do I listen to classic rock often. I have taken many music theory classes and presuming you know more then I goes against what you were saying in your last post. I listen to lots of music and Im not going to show off my equipment nor my colossal collection. Just stating that they were also VERY talented musicians. I am listening to The Roots right now. Not classic rock by any means.
And yes I do think highly of my self when it comes to music.

[pinkyslayer]

I agree.
And I also think you can say the same for the Beatles.
As for truly overrated bands, yeah, I have to put Nirvana on the list... if it weren't for all the attention they got after Kurt Cobain's death, they would have been absolutely ECLIPSED by the talents of Soundgarden and Alice in Chains, who were FAR more worthy contemporaries.
Oh... and for solo artists... Geez, come ON, ELVIS FREAKIN' PRESLEY...

I cant believe there are so many people on here who dont like Nirvana...Nirvana is one of my favorite bands of all time. You are correct, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden were both technically superior to Nirvana in nearly every way, but Kurt Cobain had incredible song writing skills. Maybe this is just a matter of personal preference, but just hearing their music is an emotional experience for me. It also makes me like them even more to know that they didnt write their music to make money or gain popularity...every band nowadays always seems to feel like they have to assert that theyre not 'mainstream' or havent 'sold out' or some other shit like that to confirm to everyone that theyre a legitimate music group. Nirvana didnt do that, they made music, and they didnt give a shit whether or not anyone listened or understood, or thought they were incredible musicians, or thought Kurt's voice was good. they were THE band that embodied what has now become the trend of 'going against the grain' or whatever it is that the bullshit pop-punk bands today say to make them seem cutting edge. Anyways, thats the end of my rant, but listening to Nirvana is like a kick in the face, in th ebest way possible. Someone here has to understand...

[Immolation]

I Never Have Understood The Dead.Overrated? Probably.They may be the Greatest Band Ever, Just not to me.:hippy: