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sm0k1t
03-06-2007, 08:58 PM
I had a tought on the existence of violence and the desire of expansion or at the limit of global domination. Since the dawn of man there have been wars of different types: for territory, prestige, honor, survival etc

I am a pacifist and I do hope for world peace to happen someday but its not on the verge of happening and it probably wont ever happen unless humans are instinct =P but still... we can say that since it exist and is kinda part of our whole history...there is maybe a purpose to war? Or do we create a purpose so to speek?

For me,the problem with war is not war itself, its the technologie used in war..the lost of honor and valor in combat when (in the dark ages) we use weapons and armor against peasants with forks...(in the modern society) we use planes and bombs and all other technology that were unaccessible for other countries and so on....but it is normal to aim for advantages like this to be victorious. So, maybe we need a certain code of honor for war (wich does exist now but its kinda vague...its like dont kill the innocent or the unarmed but you can throw a bomb to kill the enemies knowing they have no chance of survival or to even speak...surrender maybe.)

anyway...returning to swords, bows and armors would be a way to make possible the respect of a code of honor but it still wont stop some attrocities of war and we can erase the technological knowledge so the use of firearms and bombs will be use by one side or the other even if its forbidden in war someday...

wow this is going nowhere so ill stop with 1 question that puts a good or bad purpose of war..

If there were no wars at all throughout history...imagine what impacts, changes or basicly how it would be today?

overpopulated earth...perhaps

JunkYard
03-06-2007, 09:05 PM
How bout we just thumb wrestle? :D

sm0k1t
03-06-2007, 09:15 PM
I thought about martial arts combat with gambling =P

Kinda like: Hey! my best warrior can kick the ass of yours and if he wins I get this part of your country and if you win you get this...

kinda solves up the territoy and honor purposes

0ffspring
03-06-2007, 09:17 PM
I had a tought on the existence of violence and the desire of expansion or at the limit of global domination. Since the dawn of man there have been wars of different types: for territory, prestige, honor, survival etc

I am a pacifist and I do hope for world peace to happen someday but its not on the verge of happening and it probably wont ever happen unless humans are instinct =P but still... we can say that since it exist and is kinda part of our whole history...there is maybe a purpose to war? Or do we create a purpose so to speek?

For me,the problem with war is not war itself, its the technologie used in war..the lost of honor and valor in combat when (in the dark ages) we use weapons and armor against peasants with forks...(in the modern society) we use planes and bombs and all other technology that were unaccessible for other countries and so on....but it is normal to aim for advantages like this to be victorious. So, maybe we need a certain code of honor for war (wich does exist now but its kinda vague...its like dont kill the innocent or the unarmed but you can throw a bomb to kill the enemies knowing they have no chance of survival or to even speak...surrender maybe.)

anyway...returning to swords, bows and armors would be a way to make possible the respect of a code of honor but it still wont stop some attrocities of war and we can erase the technological knowledge so the use of firearms and bombs will be use by one side or the other even if its forbidden in war someday...

wow this is going nowhere so ill stop with 1 question that puts a good or bad purpose of war..

If there were no wars at all throughout history...imagine what impacts, changes or basicly how it would be today?

overpopulated earth...perhaps


you're saying that it's like a cheat code right? Too easy for us americans to bomb Iraq, or w/e, won't get too in-depth bout that. Like, it's unfair, and more people have to die and try harder against the big guys with money. Yeah, It's true man, I'll tell you my aspect of it.

The world sucks, war sucks, violence and discrimination sucks, but you know the world cannot live in perfect harmony all at once, why? Easy, it's because not everyone is a pansy or hippie, (no offense i agree with alternatives to war, but it doesn't work) Someone will always be there to blow another countries ass up in a big cloud of smoke. Ie no point in protesting the war, i think, i disagree with it too, but someone in office will always feel that it is necessary. So ya, it's unrealistic, don't bother bitching. Too many innocents die, but we are all paying for it in the end, with disease, and actually sending money over to rebuild the country as payback for tearing them down to begin with. War is gay, so fuck it, unless if i want to die soon, I will not be enlisting into any of that shit. Bah, think i'll stop now before this gets too controversial.

oh yeah, war is necessary, so uh, to control the population, but only because we haven't found the alternatives yet.

mrdevious
03-06-2007, 11:20 PM
I don't think going back to dark-ages warfare would benefit anyone. In those days it was entire nations against other entire nations. Charge in and slaughter the men, women, and children indiscriminately. Albeit it was a lot easier to win that way, Iraq could have been long over with such an atrocious method. But the point of modern warfare technology is to minimalize the loss of life, by reducing your own troop casualties, by attacking with more precision, and by not charging into towns and slaughtering the populace. I can undoubtedly say that the conduct of war a thousand years ago was MUCH more brutal and unforgiving. Perhapse even though we still misuse military, we're on the right track; the track to turn warfare into a necessary evil that's carried out as efficiently as possible, with less innocent casualties (at least by intention).

sm0k1t
03-07-2007, 06:01 PM
Yep good point but still its kinda risky if you ask me....the progress in weapons might be of an intension to minimise civil casualities but still if it goes in the wrong hands it means more power of destruction.

Simple example is nuclear weapons...in the wrong hands earth is doomed

What will it be like in the futur if we find out how to create more powerfull bombs...

anyway like I said earlier its kinda going nowhere