Lieberman's 9/11 police state bill on Senate floor today

[pisshead]

sure to be loved by the big government neo-cons...

Lieberman's 9/11 police state bill on Senate floor today
Total Information Analysis (http://www.total411.info/2007/03/liebermans-911-police-state-bill-on.html)
Monday, March 5, 2007
Before the Presidents' Day recess, Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Israel) quickly and quietly pushed through his Senate Homeland Security Committee the "Improving America's Security by Implementing Unfinished Recommendations of the 9/11 Commission Act of 2007." That bill will be debated by the full Senate this week, beginning today. [OFFICIAL PDF COPY (http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:s4rs.txt.pdf)] The 258-page bill is Lieberman's version of the police-state measure which was the first item to pass the U.S. under Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
The full Senate is set to take up the measure on the floor in the next week or two. To tell your Senators to oppose and filibuster this legislation, the number for he Congressional switchboard is as always 202-225-3121.
Civil liberties experts inside Washington have pointed Total911.info to the following provisions in particular as troubling:
Section (j)(1)(a-c) of the bill would have President Bush produce a report within six months on whether it is "feasible" to continue to protect the privacy rights of Americans.
The President would recommend whether provisions of the 1975 Privacy Act which bar federal agencies from sharing information on Americans with each other willy-nilly should be "replaced" with so-called "mission-based" or "threat-based" access to information about Americans, defined basically by whether the information is wanted for an "authorized purpose", which the Executive Branch gets to define and decide for itself. If the bill were to pass in current form, we could expect a report before the end of the year recommending the destruction of the Privacy Act, the cornerstone of federal privacy protections.
Section (j)(1)(d) of the bill calls for a report that would legitimize data-mining of information about Americans by normalizing the use of "anonymized data." This may sound pro-privacy but it really only means "encrypted," which means that private information about Americans is not really "anonymous." Such data can be decrypted by numerous government agents as desired.
The so-called "Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board" would remain a joke. Title V of S.4 exacerbates the serious problems of the Privacy Board recommended by the 9-11 Commission. This arm of the Executive Office of the White House would now be authorized to review and comment on not just "regulations, executive branch policies, and procedures " -- but legislation proposed in Congress as well!
The confirmation process proposed in Lieberman's bill is a joke as well. If a nominee is denied a vote in committee or delayed in the full Senate, the nominee to continue to serve for up to a year at a time. Lieberman's plan also allows a partisan majority to be a quorum for action and allows the president to set the terms for each of the members, possibly entrenching this Bush board firmly into some or all of the next term.
Lieberman would also give the "Privacy Board" a subpoena power -- but not over privacy-violating government agencies! A majority of the Board could request that the Attorney General issue a subpoena to persons "other than departments, agencies and elements of the executive branch."
Lieberman's bill would fund so-called "fusion centers" for gathering intelligence at the state and local not just for alleged "terror" threats but, under Title I Subtitle B, any "criminal or terrorist activity." This is just a mechanism for the Department of Homeland Security to gather information on Americans through sweeping up the files of local and state law enforcement agencies. "Fusion centers" will amount to little more than the vertical intergration of local police departments and the Department of Homeland Securoity to produce a domestic intelligence agency like Britain's MI5.

[Breukelen advocaat]

As we all should know, Lieberman is NOT a "Democrat - Israel", despite what the above posting of Pissy's says. He represents Connecticut, as a Senator.

Joe Lieberman UNITED STATES SENATE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 28, 2007
Contact: Sheila Menz


LIEBERMAN, COLLINS CALL ON SENATE TO ACT WITH URGENCY TO MAKE AMERICANS MORE SECURE



WASHINGTON - Calling for the Senate to act with a sense of urgency, Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee Chairman Joe Lieberman, ID-Conn., and Ranking Member Susan Collins, R-Me., took to the floor of the Senate Wednesday for the official opening of debate on S.4, a bill to improve the nation's security against terrorism by fully implementing the 9/11 Commission's recommendations.

"Every day that we don't act is another day in which we are not as secure here at home as we should be," said Lieberman. "This bill would create a strategy to strengthen our homeland security against the threat of terrorist attack and also prepare for and recover from all hazards, whether natural or man-made. We've studied. We've reflected. And now, with a real sense of urgency, it is time to act to build a safer and more secure nation for the generations to come."

"This legislation continues the work of Congress and the Senate Homeland Security Committee to strengthen our homeland security in the spirit that shaped the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission," said Senator Collins. "Our legislation's broad-front attack on the threats we face will ensure good value for every dollar our nation spends to improve our defenses at the federal, state, and local levels. The legislation would ensure significant and predictable funding for our state, local, and tribal governments to help safeguard our lives and properties in all catastrophes, whether natural or manmade. It will provide appropriate transparency and accountability into the federal government's security decisions. And it will strike an appropriate balance between increased security and our cherished civil liberties. The passage of this bill will benefit every American."

The bipartisan bill, Improving America's Security Act of 2007, was reported out of HSGAC February 15, 2007, on a vote of 16-0, with one abstention. It would provide risk-based homeland security grants to states, create a dedicated interoperable communications grants program for first responders, restrict terrorists' ability to enter the United States, and improve information sharing among federal, state, and local officials. It also includes provisions to strengthen the privacy and civil liberties of ordinary Americans as we fight the war on terror.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid offered a substitute amendment Wednesday morning that combines S. 4 with three bills reported out of the Commerce Committee (S. 184, the Surface Transportation and Rail Security Act of 2007; S. 509, the Aviation Security Improvement Act; and S. 385, the Interoperable Emergency Communications Act), and a measure reported out of the Banking Committee (the Public Transportation Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007).

Specific provisions of the HSGAC bill include: Authorization of $3.105 billion for each of the next three years for homeland security grants, which would ensure that grants intended to improve prevention and preparedness for terrorist attacks would be distributed overwhelmingly based on risk, while at the same time bolstering support for all-hazards preparedness Creation and authorization at $3.3 billion over five years of a dedicated interoperable grant program to help state, local and tribal governments build communications systems that allow first responders from different organizations to talk with each other in a disaster; Improving the government's ability to disrupt terrorists' travel and infiltration of the U.S. by requiring improvements to the Visa Waiver Program; Strengthening the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board; Establishing a voluntary certification program for private sector preparedness that would provide companies with a clear roadmap for strengthening preparedness; and Improving counter-terrorism information sharing within the federal government and among federal, state and local officials. In 2004, Congress passed and the President signed into law the Intelligence Reform and Terrorist Prevention Act, which enacted the major 9-11 Commission recommendations, including creation of a Director of National Intelligence to forge greater unity of effort among our intelligence agencies and a National Counter Terrorism Center to improve interagency planning to combat terrorism.

"This bill that we began considering in the Senate today continues the process of securing our nation in this new era where our enemies don't wear the uniforms of soldiers or follow any traditional laws of combat but, rather, move silently among us, probing for weaknesses while plotting attacks on innocent civilians," Lieberman said.
(bold mine)


Senator Joe Lieberman: News Release (http://lieberman.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=269880)

[Zimzum]

:S2: :spamsign:

[Bong30]

They Debate under a dictator......??????


That bill will be debated by the full Senate this week,

[medicinal]

I'm more inclinrd to go with Pissheads view, The entire Patriot act is nothing but a police state mandate. It does more to terrorize citizens than millions of terrorists can. I know, If you are not doing anything wrong, why should you be afraid of more "Security Laws". This is just a smoke and mirror scenario to remove more of our constitutional rights. The motivating factor is FEAR. Fear has been used since 911 to impose the will of the Bush white house on everything he's wanted, the war, the patriot act, all incursions into our freedoms. He is doing illegal troop deployments in the name of the "war on terror" which is a huge misnomer. It's a war for profit, plain and simple. Osama Bin Laden was the tool needed to foist the Bush doctrine upon us. If he hadn't been there, Bush would have created him, I'm not sure he didn't, at least the deeds attributed to him (Osama). There are a few conspiracy theories that make a bit of sense on this subject. I'm still not completely convinced, I'll just say, I wouldn't put it past them (Bush-Cheney), Or more correctly (Cheney-Bush). As far as Lieberman is concerned, He is a Republican in sheeps clothing. He is the most despicable senator since Strom Thurmond, a real worm, a traitor if ever there were. I've never liked him since I started watching him. He whines like a little bitch, you know what he'd be in prison, someones bitch. Some time take a minute and just watch him speak, it'll turn your stomach.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

Some time take a minute and just watch him speak, it'll turn your stomach.

NEVER WATCH A POLITICIAN SPEAK! just listening to them kills brain cells, but watching them actually sucks out your soul.:hippy:

[Bong30]

I'm more inclinrd to go with Pissheads view, The entire Patriot act is nothing but a police state mandate. It does more to terrorize citizens than millions of terrorists can. I know, If you are not doing anything wrong, why should you be afraid of more "Security Laws". This is just a smoke and mirror scenario to remove more of our constitutional rights. The motivating factor is FEAR. Fear has been used since 911 to impose the will of the Bush white house on everything he's wanted, the war, the patriot act, all incursions into our freedoms. He is doing illegal troop deployments in the name of the "war on terror" which is a huge misnomer. It's a war for profit, plain and simple. Osama Bin Laden was the tool needed to foist the Bush doctrine upon us. If he hadn't been there, Bush would have created him, I'm not sure he didn't, at least the deeds attributed to him (Osama). There are a few conspiracy theories that make a bit of sense on this subject. I'm still not completely convinced, I'll just say, I wouldn't put it past them (Bush-Cheney), Or more correctly (Cheney-Bush). As far as Lieberman is concerned, He is a Republican in sheeps clothing. He is the most despicable senator since Strom Thurmond, a real worm, a traitor if ever there were. I've never liked him since I started watching him. He whines like a little bitch, you know what he'd be in prison, someones bitch. Some time take a minute and just watch him speak, it'll turn your stomach.


You hate for America, and every thing American is mind blowing.

Do you like anything about America? Seriuosly.


My thoughts are...Its not perfect, but i love it. Best country on Earth...IMO

[Bong30]

You libs never awnsered?

If Bush Is a Dictator......how is it being debated?

I just dont get it...??????

[medicinal]

You hate for America, and every thing American is mind blowing.

Do you like anything about America? Seriuosly.

What I don't get is your analysis of my posts. Of course I love America, I just don't like it being Hi-jacked by a bunch of corporate scumbags. There was a time in my early life that I sat in school and lapped up all the rhetoric that the government had injected into the History Books, Then I grew up. I love the America of my youth, the apple pie America, but the people have become lethargic, fat and lazy. Life in modern America has been too good for their own good. Why worry if someone is stealing your freedom if you're making the duckets and living the capitalistic dream, and oh yeah, enemies are what the government tells you. Hate Muslims, they are the enemy, hate N. Koreans, they are the enemy, Hate commies, they are the enemy. The government smart guys have figured out how to keep us placated, Feed us bullshit and keep us afraid of whomever they want to fuck over. If you look behind all the wars we've been involved in since WWII, you'll find corporate interests, even WWII offered big bucks to a few war contractors, GM, Ford. GE, and plenty more all made the duckets on Wars. So all I'm saying is pull your collective heads out and realize that the enemies are created for our benefit, so the corporations can steal us blind. Bring back my apple pie America and I'll be proud to pour on the accolades. Hey, I'm proud of our troops, Just not the mission. And remember, there are new enemies lurking in the minds of corporate America!

[Bong30]

You hate for America, and every thing American is mind blowing.

Do you like anything about America? Seriuosly.

What I don't get is your analysis of my posts. Of course I love America, I just don't like it being Hi-jacked by a bunch of corporate scumbags.

You are throwing the baby out with the Bath water....
You can disagree with the President, but you better respect the office....YOU DONT. why?

There was a time in my early life that I sat in school and lapped up all the rhetoric that the government had injected into the History Books, Then I grew up. I love the America of my youth, the apple pie America, but the people have become lethargic, fat and lazy.

Stereotype much?... you hate that our standard of living is so high....even our poor people are fat....you would like some wealth redistrabution..im sure

Life in modern America has been too good for their own good.

My MOM working 3 Jobs, as I grew up. I must have missed the easy part..??

Why worry if someone is stealing your freedom if you're making the duckets and living the capitalistic dream, and oh yeah, enemies are what the government tells you. Hate Muslims, they are the enemy,

WRONG...My goverment didnt say they hated me...THEY DID.

hate N. Koreans, they are the enemy, Hate commies, they are the enemy.

Read Sig #2

The government smart guys have figured out how to keep us placated, Feed us bullshit and keep us afraid of whomever they want to fuck over. If you look behind all the wars we've been involved in since WWII, you'll find corporate interests, even WWII offered big bucks to a few war contractors, GM, Ford. GE, and plenty more all made the duckets on Wars.

BUilding for the war effort and making money is not aginst the law.. you just look for something to bitch about....The whole country piched in, for WW2 and WE WON THE WAR....those were the days of real americans

So all I'm saying is pull your collective heads out and realize that the enemies are created for our benefit, so the corporations can steal us blind.

The real enemy is

Illegal imagration
RADICAL islam...
Corporate outsourcing and greed
stagnation in Goverment
marijuana prohabition....
Americans that hate America....the enemy within.....Like Jane Fonda, Ted Turner, EG, Ward Churchill, Med, you know the type

Bring back my apple pie America and I'll be proud to pour on the accolades.

How are we going to bring it back when you are so full of hate for the misson, the president, hate for christians, hate for just about everything....
Hey, I'm proud of our troops,

LOL that just sounds funny.....

Just not the mission. And remember, there are new enemies lurking in the minds of corporate America!

Med watches a Mushroom cloud over Tele Viv....saying...burn Zionist bitches burn.....like that enemy? Iran?


Med when you want to quote me or whom ever just click the word QUOTE right there VVVVVVVV

[CommanderChief]

I don't like the Patriot Act and things similar either.... I think there's mass bullshit in this country and not many people see it. Go to google and type in "Police State" and watch one of 'em [an open mind will help lol]. Go to Subliminal Advertising (http://www.poleshift.org/sublim) also.... interesting stuff. And please, this isn't spam....lol just posting some interesting sites. These sites aren't really pertainent to anything in general, just mainly towards things people don't think about. Those things really changed how I view things, but then again I've always kinda had a different view on things.


People just don't question things enough, and just float by in life while they're fed mush. It's sad and frustrating, b/c so much of society is blind. All the stuff you see on TV, all the stuff said by politicians, it isn't what most think. Just keep an open mind and challenge EVERYTHING.

[medicinal]

Bongaloooie, I don't wan't to waste time and space pushing the quote button when you are so full of hate and ignorance, no need to make people read it twice. Just be advised that when you try and oppose my views, you are making a fool of yourself by speiling hate and vehement spasms. I guess it's either you don't know how to read, or you're so prejudiced against anything that makes sense that you can't contain yourself. Make it easy on yourself, don't strain your brain, Just say I'm full of schize, and move on. I don't think many on this site really appreciate your rantings, I could be wrong but I doubt it. It wouldn't matter what I said, you are confrontational. If you've noticed, the only one on this site I give major shite to is you, ever wonder why?