Joints dont get me high

[Knucklecallus420]

So I made a nice joint and it was fairly compacted. I used a generous amount of pot... Why didn't it affect me at all? This is retarted
its happened once before, too. i smoked two joints and they both did nothing to me

[coday182]

sucks for you man

[MaryjaneAndHashley]

either your bud sucks or you're not inhaling/hitting it right, if its not that I have no idea

[Knucklecallus420]

no, i got some really good shit. i hold my hits for like 3 seconds.
i made a waterfall after that, and one bowl had me high as a kite for a good 3-4 hours before i started to come down. its some dank i think

[Samwhore]

you might not have rolled or inhaled right

[Shrapnel]

When you hit it, did you actually exhale a good amount of smoke?

[budsmoker only]

sounds to me like you dont hit it inhale right... i dunno why but thats probably it.. cuz joints get you pretty damn high...

[Knucklecallus420]

Really? Lame
yeah i usually exhale like a giant cloud of smoke, not some semi smokey haze
how do you guys prevent a joint from burning really fast

[DeepFriedBrain]

no, i got some really good shit. i hold my hits for like 3 seconds.
i made a waterfall after that, and one bowl had me high as a kite for a good 3-4 hours before i started to come down. its some dank i think

I think I can see where your going wrong there fella....

3 seconds?

You should be holding smoke in your lungs for twenty to fifty seconds to let the THC coat and absorb into your lungs dude.

Try inhaling less smoke but holding it for longer.

You know you've had a good hit when you start to cough and then get a sheen of perspiration upon your gentle brow.

Remember, you should cough to get off!!!:thumbsup:

[affasd]

by rolling it correctly lol also double wrapping can help if you dont mind the taste of paper

[MaryjaneAndHashley]

I think I can see where your going wrong there fella....

3 seconds?

You should be holding smoke in your lungs for twenty to fifty seconds to let the THC coat and absorb into your lungs dude.

Try inhaling less smoke but holding it for longer.

Twenty to fifty seconds? wtf?! :wtf:

Don't do that, it harms your lungs, and the THC is absorbed by your lungs in like 3 seconds, no need to hold it longer.

[Knucklecallus420]

I think I can see where your going wrong there fella....

3 seconds?

You should be holding smoke in your lungs for twenty to fifty seconds to let the THC coat and absorb into your lungs dude.

Try inhaling less smoke but holding it for longer.

You know you've had a good hit when you start to cough and then get a sheen of perspiration upon your gentle brow.

Remember, you should cough to get off!!!:thumbsup:

hahaha, but oh have i done my research. apparently, it takes about 3-5 seconds for like 80% of the THC to be absorbed. thats enough for me. if i hold it in for twenty to fifty seconds, im just gonna coat my lungs in tar. /:

[cannavore]

maybe ur not holdn it rite. if you pinch it too hard or somethin smoke might not get through. make sure ur not getn the paper wet in ur mouth. if you want it to burn a little slower lick it once before you lite. i smoked 2 jays an im beaattt.

[Knucklecallus420]

hahaha

[DeepFriedBrain]

hahaha, but oh have i done my research. apparently, it takes about 3-5 seconds for like 80% of the THC to be absorbed. thats enough for me. if i hold it in for twenty to fifty seconds, im just gonna coat my lungs in tar. /:

Your smoking shit then

[MrNiceGuy420]

its been debated before how long you have to hold hits for...there is no reason to hold a hit for 20+ seconds...you might get a little higher due to lack of oxygen, but not much.

[tuscani]

hold a hit for 50 seconds wtf haha....you only need to hold ur hits 25 if its salvia.....thc absorbs much quicker : |

[DeepFriedBrain]

hold a hit for 50 seconds wtf haha....you only need to hold ur hits 25 if its salvia.....thc absorbs much quicker : |

Nobodies talking about salvia dude.

[DeepFriedBrain]

Have a look at the book Hashish! it's written, 20-50 seconds for the maximum effect.
You shouldn't smoke weed, it's bad for you.

[tuscani]

Nobodies talking about salvia dude.

i know douchebag, i was merely making a comparison to the absorbtion rates.....suggesting to hold your hits for 25-50 seconds would be a more accurate estimate for salvinorin alpha, whereas as we know thc only needs to be held a mere 3-5 seconds.

[ooorbjoo]

aannyyyywayyyysss getting back to the topic...

[DeepFriedBrain]

i know douchebag, i was merely making a comparison to the absorbtion rates.....suggesting to hold your hits for 25-50 seconds would be a more accurate estimate for salvinorin alpha, whereas as we know thc only needs to be held a mere 3-5 seconds.

Do some homework boy

douchebag?

Your reaction is that of a child when first hearing stuff that scares them, is that a puddle I see under you?

The guy asked why he isn't getting stoned, perhaps he ought to try out what he hears before dismissing it.
What's the worst that could happen?
He gets stoned perhaps?

Please provide the research you've done or read to back up this 3-5 second claim.
I told you where I source mine, now you show me yours?

[ncnavguy]

Hey if your smoking two joints and feeling nothing maybe your tolerance is fucked, take a break! Walk the dog, teach a kid to fish! Maybe even explore a library, after a week or two then hit that fucking joint and see if it gets you? If not then there is a problem with either the rolling technique or your smoking oregano. The medium is not so important as the substance.

[budsmoker only]

maybe you should just not smoke joints as it seems to be a waste for you since you dont get high.. and to deepfriedbrain there have probly been a couple of threads on that, if you search the boards you will see..

[station]

You shouldn't smoke weed, it's bad for you.

umm wtf? :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
its actually not that bad for u. wat r u doin on this board anyways??? lol



i find if smoke a joint to my self im royally fucked!!! maybe your chron jus sucks the bag lol

[orangeman]

Actually joints are my 2nd fav way of smoking. They get me very high!

[Reefer Rogue]

Do some homework boy

douchebag?

Your reaction is that of a child when first hearing stuff that scares them, is that a puddle I see under you?

The guy asked why he isn't getting stoned, perhaps he ought to try out what he hears before dismissing it.
What's the worst that could happen?
He gets stoned perhaps?

Please provide the research you've done or read to back up this 3-5 second claim.
I told you where I source mine, now you show me yours?

Please stop spreading false information. All holding a hit in for 25-50 seconds will do is deprive you of oxygen, creating a placebo effect of getting higher.

A study done by a group of doctors in Canada at Dalhousie University, concluded that more than 90% of the THC is absorbed into the lungs within the first seconds of inhalation. Another study confirms this, but they put their number at 95% absorption. The 5-15% of THC that isn't absorbed is due to THC loss in trace smoke, or smoke that never enters the lungs.

Drug Detection Times @ Drug-Test-Facts.com (http://www.drug-test-facts.com/drug-detection-times/)

Make sure your joints are tight, don't sideburn and burn slowish. Keep practising, inhale correctly and deeply.

[crudemood]

I honestly don't get the 'whole inhale wrong' thing. I'm going to assume you've been breathing you're whole life.. and if you can breathe you know how to inhale properly and thats it. Oh no you're dying did you forget to inhale after you exhaled? You are born with the ability to inhale so how the hell can you do it wrong?
This 'not inhaling properly' is just bullshit just stop, it sounds so dumb when you say that.

[LSK420theVille]

Do some homework boy

douchebag?

Your reaction is that of a child when first hearing stuff that scares them, is that a puddle I see under you?

The guy asked why he isn't getting stoned, perhaps he ought to try out what he hears before dismissing it.
What's the worst that could happen?
He gets stoned perhaps?

Please provide the research you've done or read to back up this 3-5 second claim.
I told you where I source mine, now you show me yours?

well maybe if you read this kids post right you would see that he is smoking herb and not hash... have fun holding in your hits for 25-50 seconds while im getting just as baked and not being out of breath after a hit!

[Joexi]

I honestly don't get the 'whole inhale wrong' thing. I'm going to assume you've been breathing you're whole life.. and if you can breathe you know how to inhale properly and thats it. Oh no you're dying did you forget to inhale after you exhaled? You are born with the ability to inhale so how the hell can you do it wrong?
This 'not inhaling properly' is just bullshit just stop, it sounds so dumb when you say that.


The difference:

Proper inhaling: Your shoulder raise slightly, your chest pushes out. It can enter your lungs.

Improperly: You just suck in air, and don't let it enter as deeply. Thus, the smoke can't get to your lungs. :jointsmile:

[Professor Dan K.]

someone should really post a sign....

ahh here we go

*tacks in place*

much better

[ProToker0622]

"Cannabis smoke is usually inhaled deep into the lungs and held there for an extended time, in order to maximize absorption of the active compounds. While cannabis users in North America often retain the smoke in their lungs for up to a minute or longer, preliminary laboratory data suggest that the retention of almost all of the cannabinoids in the inhaled smoke may occur after a considerably shorter interval (less than half a minute may be sufficient).399,487 By contrast. prolonged retention of inhaled smoke is not common among cannabis users in either India or Jamaica, although deep inhalation techniques are typically used.412,534 On the basis of the present data, then, it would appear that under optimal conditions, a smoker may absorb up to one-half of the THC available in the cannabis material. Under most conditions however, both social and experimental, considerably less of the THC actually enters the physiological system[n] The lack of standard administration techniques generally renders detailed or quantitative comparisons quite tenuous, both among experiments and between laboratory and social situations. "

This is the website i got that from. Administration, Absorption, Distribution, and Physiological Fate (http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/ledain/ldc2d.htm)
Personally i hold my hits about 5-10 seconds

[ValkyrieAg]

5-10 is perfect.

Yall know how when you hit some DANK really hard, and you hold it....and the 'pressure' or the 'heat' start to rise....and you need to exhale....

Well if you are holding it longer than 15 seconds, it must not be a very solid hit to begin with.

[hogikiamay]

if u want ur joints to not burn off alot of smoke while ur not hitting it.. u gotta roll it rite..

[Knucklecallus420]

hm. ok. so i guess that pretty much, i just fucking suck at rolling and its really loose. i try to pack my weed down with a pencil, but it doesnt really work. lol

[J-dubb206]

Thats weird, but like orangeman said. Joints are also my 2nd fav way of smoking and they get me pretty high.

[420marijuana420]

ok I hold my hits for like 3 second and don't you have to take in some oxygen with the hit or it wont get into your lungs or something?

[DeepFriedBrain]

A study done by a group of doctors in Canada at Dalhousie University, concluded that more than 90% of the THC is absorbed into the lungs within the first seconds of inhalation. Another study confirms this, but they put their number at 95% absorption. The 5-15% of THC that isn't absorbed is due to THC loss in trace smoke, or smoke that never enters the lungs.

This doesn't sound right.
According to these reports 90-95% of the THC is absorbed within 3-5 seconds. Now if I were to vaporise a bud and hold the vapor in for 3-5 seconds and then exhale, I get a huge cloud of vapour ( THC, terpines, etc ) expelled from my lungs.
If I hold it for 50 seconds( with vapor you can do this), I get very little coming out when I exhale.
If all the THC is absorbed after 3-5 seconds, then what the hell am I exhaling?

Just because a doctor said it, it doesn't mean it's true.

[iceman81588]

DeepFried they're talking about pot smoke not pot vapor. Besides, you're wrong, look anywhere or ask anyone who knows what they're talking about and they'll tell you, holding your hits for more than 5-10 seconds is just pointless, as all the thc that will be absorbed has been already. If you really need "sources" then fine, ill find you plenty, but don't argue a point if you don't know what you're talking about, it's better to be thought an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[suhl]

Do some homework boy

douchebag?

Your reaction is that of a child when first hearing stuff that scares them, is that a puddle I see under you?

The guy asked why he isn't getting stoned, perhaps he ought to try out what he hears before dismissing it.
What's the worst that could happen?
He gets stoned perhaps?

Please provide the research you've done or read to back up this 3-5 second claim.
I told you where I source mine, now you show me yours?

and after all those well that out put downs you are still wrong:S2:

[jakez]

A study done by a group of doctors in Canada at Dalhousie University, concluded that more than 90% of the THC is absorbed into the lungs within the first seconds of inhalation. Another study confirms this, but they put their number at 95% absorption. The 5-15% of THC that isn't absorbed is due to THC loss in trace smoke, or smoke that never enters the lungs.

This doesn't sound right.
According to these reports 90-95% of the THC is absorbed within 3-5 seconds. Now if I were to vaporise a bud and hold the vapor in for 3-5 seconds and then exhale, I get a huge cloud of vapour ( THC, terpines, etc ) expelled from my lungs.
If I hold it for 50 seconds( with vapor you can do this), I get very little coming out when I exhale.
If all the THC is absorbed after 3-5 seconds, then what the hell am I exhaling?

Just because a doctor said it, it doesn't mean it's true.

This thread and you remind me of the government and how they try to twist test results. The results you just posted are saying that the other 5-15% of THC is smoke that never entered the lungs. Smoke that either slipped out your mouth while hitting it, smoke that stayed in your mouth because you took a huge hit and didn't think to leave a couple seconds of breath to clear your mouth/throat, smoke that sat in your throat for the previous reason. Or could be something else. Holding a hit for 50 seconds is ridiculous. You are cutting off oxygen to your brain and probably doing more damage than weed will EVER do. If this other 5-15% of smoke is so precious to you then try taking a big hit, blowing like 1/3 out, inhale again, blow 1/3 out, keep doing that until you are blowing no more smoke. This is probably just as bad as holding it and letting the tar coat your lungs but at least your brain isn't being deprived of oxygen! You damn fool.

[MOBABN]

i wonder why people like this idiot never get banned, and others do for the dumbest reasons lol, this guy shouldnt even be on here.

[MinusRyan]

infuckingpossible when you inhale a damn joint right, you'll know what I mean.
Joints or Blunts or any kind of delivery system will get you baked if you are in fact smoking the grass of the heavens.


Ever sucked dick for coke? HUH? BOO THIS MAN! :jointsmile:

[DeepFriedBrain]

[quote=ProToker0622]"Cannabis smoke is usually inhaled deep into the lungs and held there for an extended time, in order to maximize absorption of the active compounds. While cannabis users in North America often retain the smoke in their lungs for up to a minute or longer, preliminary laboratory data suggest that the retention of almost all of the cannabinoids in the inhaled smoke may occur after a considerably shorter interval (less than half a minute may be sufficient).399,487 By contrast. prolonged retention of inhaled smoke is not common among cannabis users in either India or Jamaica, although deep inhalation techniques are typically used.412,534 On the basis of the present data, then, it would appear that under optimal conditions, a smoker may absorb up to one-half of the THC available in the cannabis material. Under most conditions however, both social and experimental, considerably less of the THC actually enters the physiological system[n]

The lack of standard administration techniques generally renders detailed or quantitative comparisons quite tenuous, both among experiments and between laboratory and social situations. "

You guys are so touchy. I think the above statment says all results seem a bit random, no matter who or where you are.
I say inhale less, hold it for longer, and don't use tobacco.

[xblackdogx]

well, supposedly, joints don't allow much thc to get into your lungs...
some is lost on the paper, or the excess smoke when you not hitting it... bong is most efficient way to smoke, you get like 80% of available thc from a hit.

This probably explains why the waterfall got you fucked up, but not the joint...
me, personally, i'll hit the bong or bubbler

[chronicnhash]

this may sound stupid but it could be the way your inhaling?? the other day i rolled a couple fatties for me n my buddy, and well he hasnt smoked too many times. He said he never smoked a joint. so anyways we fire up the dank and bout half way through im feelin it pretty nice and we finish it and hes like man im not high. im like alright.... well lets smoke the other one... same shit he said after he aint high im like you do kno how to inhale right like its not something you need to learn and he says he was doin everythin right, but iunno cuz if he has like 2 bowls hes cheeched outta his mind

fuck that was long for me time to get high ... .. er

[slipknotpsycho]

hahaha, but oh have i done my research. apparently, it takes about 3-5 seconds for like 80% of the THC to be absorbed. thats enough for me. if i hold it in for twenty to fifty seconds, im just gonna coat my lungs in tar. /:

o.0 97% actually.. but i'm not gonna pick at bones lol..

yeah i'm confused dude... cuz if you get high smoking other ways it's not like a paper should or even could effect that... gotta be either shitty weed or user error... well possibly a placebo effect (they can work both ways) if you were really convinced it wasnt' gonna get you high in the first place...

or... perhaps, maybe you were smoking with alot of people... a normal (cig sized around) joint, can get two people good and high... but the more people you add to the rotation, the more it takes away from the first two's high...

[Knucklecallus420]

tightizzle.