Two teens make us look like idiots.

[JaggedEdge]

Just saw on Fox News a video of two teens pressuring a 2 y/o and 5y/o to smoke a blunt. Granted, I'm suprised a 2 y/o kid would even be able to inhale smoke, they don't follow directions well.

But I think I speak for everyone when I say, "stupid fucking idiots."

[DudemeisteR420]

those guys are fucking idiots

[NextLineIsMine]

doesn't really matter, Fox news viewers already think MJ was created by Satan to fill us with sin. Even a five year old child could never hold down marijuana smoke.

[Bob the Awesome]

Video appears to show brothers, 2 and 5, smoking pot - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/04/pot.kids/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)

There's an article with a video to watch.

Stupid? Hell yea, I can't believe the mindset of these morons who gave these kids pot. Any jail time they get is their own fault. You don't do that to children who don't know any better.

At the same time, the comments of "This is the most horrifying thing I've ever seen..." are a little overstated. Sure, it's bad, but the kids aren't going to die from getting high. I've seen worse, like people falling from the WTC's during 9/11. It's bad, but kids smoking pot won't ruin their lives like getting killed would.

[rebgirl420]

Wow you hit it right on the head. Thats ridiculous. It's a-holes like that that make the rest of us look like degenerate, small minded hippies that listen to Pink FLoyd and laugh at the word "roni".

[rebgirl420]

doesn't really matter, Fox news viewers already think MJ was created by Satan to fill us with sin. Even a five year old child could never hold down marijuana smoke.

Um Im a fox news viewer and im atheist and an avid smoker

[JaggedEdge]

At the same time, the comments of "This is the most horrifying thing I've ever seen..." are a little overstated. Sure, it's bad, but the kids aren't going to die from getting high. I've seen worse, like people falling from the WTC's during 9/11. It's bad, but kids smoking pot won't ruin their lives like getting killed would.

Thanks for the link. And yeah, I agree, the news decided to make this sound a lot worse than it is. Sadly though, I put little blame on the media. They were handed the oppertunity on a silver platter to make weed look horrible. They jumped at the oppertunity. They really didn't need to put any spin on it though, the video alone speaks volume. I honestly hope these teens spend a little time in jail. I think they are still minors though...

*edit* One was 17 and the other 18 years old.

[JaggedEdge]

Um Im a fox news viewer and im atheist and an avid smoker

Me too, and I'm more middle of the road. I just really don't like CNN much.

[memoryburner]

Who comes up with such a stupid idea...

[lazy smoker7]

lol this is the second thread on this .... anyways i bet the media is gonna put like marijuana as a head line MARIJUANA TAKES OVER MIND AND MAKES YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER THE MINDS OF ARE YOUNGER ONES... eh i hope the media dosent use this to brain wash ppl that marijuana is bad when it is not but I am pretty sure they are going to anyways.,

[Jizzle Blizzle420]

Marijuana is the devil! everybody on this website will burn in hell for the sins you have commited by indulging in a plant! How messed up would you have to be 2 smoke something that God put on this earth! hahaha... close minded people annoy me. and those damn kids are the ones who make all us stoners out to be bad people. keep blowin smoke rings.

[orangeman]

Meh w/e. They were stupid for what they did but when I started to think about it they are just making themselves look stupid, they aren't making me look stupid. Those guys don't represent me..they are 2 in a million marijuana users. Just because they did what they did doesn't mean everyone else is just as stupid to do it. People who doesn't want to see a bright future for Cannabis would like to believe everyone that does is irresponsible but it's not so..

[Reefer Rogue]

Wow you hit it right on the head. Thats ridiculous. It's a-holes like that that make the rest of us look like degenerate, small minded hippies that listen to Pink FLoyd and laugh at the word "roni".

What's wrong with hippies that listen to Pink Floyd? :hippy:


Those idiots don't deserve my thought.

[crudemood]

pure. dumbness.. words cannot describe.. i think its really on the same level on child molesting. child doesnt know better.. howcould they take advantage like that

[HiInOC]

i saw this same thing on fox news.

but i like fox news, well actually my dad likes it so i guess ive gotten use to it. but he doesnt think pot is bad and that the devil put it on the earth lol

[rebgirl420]

haha nothing hun im just saying hahah

[rebgirl420]

I dont think weed will ever be looked at as good. The government has put wayyy too much emphasis on how bad it is and how its a gatewaty drug. I mean from kindergaden we are taught to say No to drugs and that marijuana ciggarettes are bad. Its a shame.

[Reefer Rogue]

All their arguements are usually outdated, bias, or just false. It takes two though, one to give this information and another to believe it. We need more people spreading the true knowledge so cannabis can be glorified in its true light.

[lazy smoker7]

yea has any one notticed mentioning ciggerates or alcohol to a "anti pot person" its no problem at all... but when the Mj subject comes up all hell breaks lose....

[JaggedEdge]

I have actually found that the biggest oppositon to cannabis, comes from avid drinkers... Just a personal observation, but most of the people I know personally who feel weed is an evil, life ruining drug, tend to get drunk every night.

[iStaaHi]

i dont think its really all that bad,, its weed, if it were cigarettes or somethin it would be diff , but its weed,, no harm done,,, im probably gona get bitched out for sayin this but its my opinion, and i wont be here , cuz i got to go... into town

[JaggedEdge]

i dont think its really all that bad,, its weed, if it were cigarettes or somethin it would be diff , but its weed,, no harm done,,, im probably gona get bitched out for sayin this but its my opinion, and i wont be here , cuz i got to go... into town

Do you really believe it is completely fine for a young child to have smoke of any form in his lungs. Weed is something someone should decide to do. It shouldn't be forced upon anyone! With children that young, you are basically forcing them to do it.

[Skink]

Fu#$@in Terrible!!! Who would even be dumb enough to tape this crap??? Watch it go on without doing something about it???

[orangeman]

Do you really believe it is completely fine for a young child to have smoke of any form in his lungs. Weed is something someone should decide to do. It shouldn't be forced upon anyone! With children that young, you are basically forcing them to do it.

Sometimes children get curious. All I'm saying is smoking is just a little harder being that young especially without help since you'd have to either roll or pack a bowl then light and inhale. But when I was a baby I was told that I always some how got a hold of my moms beers. When I showed up in her room drunk she said they would laugh because of how I was. And what about that toddler that ingested PCP. Of course my mom didn't give me beer and more than likely that one guy didn't give the child PCP but the point is it was irresponsible just like those guys in the vid. I don't approve of this video but it really gets me when people talk about this like it doesn't happen everyday. This is just probably one of the first times it's been filmed and shown on CNN. I guess people really must have to see it with their own eyes for it to be "shocking"...One thing that was really funny to me though is when the cop started listing all the things that the child had that indicated that it wasn't his first time smoking and for some reason people are shocked when I tell them I smoke because I have no characteristics of what they think a smoker would be like..

[Snake2389]

Damn, how did it get on the news anyway? Did they actually recorded a video and put it up on youtube or some shit like that? You must have an IQ of a pancake to do that..
Anyhow, if i believed in hell or heaven, id choose hell, cuz atleast there i can light my joint

[orangeman]

Damn, how did it get on the news anyway? Did they actually recorded a video and put it up on youtube or some shit like that? You must have an IQ of a pancake to do that..
Anyhow, if i believed in hell or heaven, id choose hell, cuz atleast there i can light my joint

From what I understand they say that the tape was confinscated from the home of those guys when the police raided it.

[LazySmoking420]

Yahoo! (http://www.yahoo.com/s/522304)

Facing felony charges. Thoughts?

[slipknotpsycho]

i'm not one to jump in wiht violence.. but when it's soemthign this stupid.... well it's bad for 2 reasons...

one some teens are tryign to get BABIES to do drugs.. tha'ts fucked up all in itself...

then, of course as you said, these teens are making us look like idiots.. even if it isn't us... the ones against weed don't pick the good from the bad ones... they just judge us as a general group 'potheads' ....

i'd like to kick 'em both in the nuts and bust their face in with a torque wrench...

[hazetwostep]

holy crap, i just saw a news report of a 17 year old male sharing his blunt with his 2 and 5 year old newphews (he videotaped it). it was mad funny to see a ltiny kid wailing on a blunt like he had been doing it for years!!! they looked like pro's! conversely, the reality of what he was doing was not funny at all in my opinion.

what is your opinion on it? is that totally inappropriate or no big deal? why?

[Samwhore]

my opinion is if you want to, you want to, but 2 and 5 is a little young, let them try in about 10 years

[Antihero867]

Thats fucked up. Someone should beat that 17 year olds ass. Im down with the erbs and everything but i think that 2 and 5 are a little to young. Their not old enough to make that decision on their own. I dont even think that anyone should smoke until their at least 16. But i know 12 year olds smoke and shit.

[hazetwostep]

here is the clip...

YouTube - Uncle Teaching 2 & 5-Year-Old Nephews to Smoke Pot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPgKZOfG89Q)

[hazetwostep]

whoa... how the hell did the thread i made combine with this thread????

[Samwhore]

the mods combine them

[mirvana]

sounds stupid but there wouldn't be any charges made against the little ones, right? there couldn't.

[JaggedEdge]

the mods combine them

I know, at first I was wondering how a poll was placed in my thread...

[NextLineIsMine]

Um Im a fox news viewer and im atheist and an avid smoker

how can you live two seperate lives like that?

[JaggedEdge]

sounds stupid but there wouldn't be any charges made against the little ones, right? there couldn't.

Nope they would be the victims.

[Matt the Funk]

Injury to a child? Hardly. Still not cool though.

[rebgirl420]

how can you live two seperate lives like that?

Im not your typical republican hun

[hisbiggness36]

i put a post about this an barley got any replies but now since an older member that everyone knows and likes posts this its gets over 40 replies wtf is that shit

[Ghost**]

that is so wrong, it makes pot smokers in general look bad

[THCArg]

MJ's illegality makes stupid people beeing on it.

[420marijuana420]

It's completely wrong. Just because this is the lifestyle people on these boards choose it's not for everyone. These kids aren't old enough to decide what's right for them and until they can they should be steered in the most conservative path possible.

[couch-potato]

laugh at the word "roni".


LMAO!!!!

[Nation_1ne]

i think its really on the same level on child molesting.

Not really mate, molesting a child is far far worse and sickening.

[vileoxidation]

i put a post about this an barley got any replies but now since an older member that everyone knows and likes posts this its gets over 40 replies wtf is that shit

Wow, way to have your priorities in order...
~~~~~~

This is absolutely disgusting. In addition to the fact that it is just wrong to be offering drugs of any sort to young children, they are also much more susceptible to the damages from inhaling smoke, and they are much more likely to get some sort of respiratory issue that wasn't their choice at all.

Ugh.

[Psycho4Bud]

Lets keep the politics bullshit out of this. Fact is two losers got a couple of babies high.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

And people wonder HOW THE HELL weed can still be illegal..........UNREAL!:wtf:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

Sorry Oneironaut.......I deleted off that b.s. rant once already that you quoted.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Oneironaut]

Sorry Oneironaut.......I deleted off that b.s. rant once already that you quoted.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:
Oh all right, good.

I'll make my other point again then.

These people did do something very irresponsible and they should probably be punished for it, but it's not the worst thing in the world. Every day lots of parents give their babies alcohol to get them to stop crying, but how often do you hear about that in the media? Never, because people don't care about alcohol. It wouldn't make it off the cutting room floor, even though alcohol is probably a lot worse for a baby than a little weed smoke.

My parents occasionally smoked weed around me when I was a baby, and presumably I got a contact buzz sometimes, but I grew up just fine. It's not going to kill the kid and shouldn't cause any major damage if it's not overdone, but still it's stupid to give a two- or five-year-old any kind of intoxicating drug.

But this brings up an interesting question. At what age does it cross that fuzzy boundary between an absolutely irresponsible act and a somewhat questionable act? And when does it turn from a somewhat questionable act into a fully acceptable act?

[CYRAX]

Wow you hit it right on the head. Thats ridiculous. It's a-holes like that that make the rest of us look like degenerate, small minded hippies that listen to Pink FLoyd and laugh at the word "roni".

Those teens are African American, I HIGHLY DOUBT they where hippies, or what ever group of people you are trying to blame, I'd guess they listen to rap and such, and so do me and my friends, but we would never try something like that, plus who the hells wants to waste well paid smoke..

[Podge_Boro]

they are complete and utter wankers
no point in it at all
i dont pressure people, i admit i offer it to some people
but never pressurise people, thats just wrong

[Reefer Rogue]

I lol'd at his response to the question at the end of the tape. ;D

[Diary of a Madman]

Sorry Oneironaut.......I deleted off that b.s. rant once already that you quoted.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

EXACTLY. I WAS TELLING HIM TO KEEP POLITICS OUT OF IT. THATS THE EXACT POINT OF MY BS RANT, , BUT YOU MAKE IT APPARENT WHOSE TEAM YOU ARE ON BY DELETING MY POST.

EXACTLY

[Psycho4Bud]

EXACTLY. I WAS TELLING HIM TO KEEP POLITICS OUT OF IT. THATS THE EXACT POINT OF MY BS RANT, , BUT YOU MAKE IT APPARENT WHOSE TEAM YOU ARE ON BY DELETING MY POST.

EXACTLY

I'm not on anyones "team" but if your referring to my political views you should check out the politics forum. The lounge isn't for politics or b.s. slams against fellow members in here.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[ValkyrieAg]

Obviously some people who expressed opinions in this thread weren't raised the same way I was. There is no 'fuzzy' line where things go from OK to not ok. Its a very obvious line to be stepped over.

I would be embarassed to say that smoking out kids who are under 18 is responsible, because it is not.

Maybe some of yall were raised with coke in your bottle and drugs around your home, but I wasn't and can obviously tell (from a mile away) what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior. If you can't tell, slap your parents because they didn't do their job.

[vileoxidation]

Obviously some people who expressed opinions in this thread weren't raised the same way I was. There is no 'fuzzy' line where things go from OK to not ok. Its a very obvious line to be stepped over.

I would be embarassed to say that smoking out kids who are under 18 is responsible, because it is not.

Maybe some of yall were raised with coke in your bottle and drugs around your home, but I wasn't and can obviously tell (from a mile away) what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior. If you can't tell, slap your parents because they didn't do their job.

Seriously. I can't see a fuzzy line where it is now okay to allow, and even encourage, a toddler to smoke.

Adults have the responsibility of protecting children, as the clip says, and part of protecting children is shielding them from things that could be harmful to them, especially at such young ages. I am not ragging on parents who smoke around children, but there is a huge difference between parents smoking around a toddler and those same parents sticking a blunt in the toddler's mouth and encouraging him to inhale.

I know it wasn't the children's parents, but family members, and adults in general, have a responsibility to children.

[yoda]

words cant describe how pathetic and inhumane those two teens are....those little kids are still 3 years too young to be smoking pot :) .

but seriously, it is fucking sick, and shit like that brings the pothead community down.

[Oneironaut]

Obviously some people who expressed opinions in this thread weren't raised the same way I was. There is no 'fuzzy' line where things go from OK to not ok. Its a very obvious line to be stepped over.

I would be embarassed to say that smoking out kids who are under 18 is responsible, because it is not.

Maybe some of yall were raised with coke in your bottle and drugs around your home, but I wasn't and can obviously tell (from a mile away) what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior. If you can't tell, slap your parents because they didn't do their job.

Of course there's a fuzzy line. It is clearly not okay to smoke up a toddler, but it is okay to smoke up a 50-year-old. Somewhere in between the person in question matures to the point where they can handle it. It is not a single moment in time, but a gradual process.

Are you seriously suggesting that there is a huge ethical difference between offering a joint to somebody who is 17 years and 364 days old and offering somebody a joint on their 18th birthday? I don't think it's that clear-cut.

[Oneironaut]

Seriously. I can't see a fuzzy line where it is now okay to allow, and even encourage, a toddler to smoke.

WTF? I never said there was a fuzzy line in respect to toddlers. I said there is a fuzzy line in respect to the age at which immature children become adults mature enough to smoke pot. There is not a single moment in someone's life when they magically become mature, and that fact has very serious implications for how our society ought to react to pot smoking among young people.

[Way2many]

That is fucked i would never encourage a little kid to smoke bud....anyway this story was probley made up by the news to make us look more like the axe murdering family killing virgin deflowering monsters we are.

i hate the media.

[Nation_1ne]

Oneironaut, the way I see it is:

18+ should be the legal age to smoke Weed legally (if it was legal).

16+ at the moment is the legal age too smoke a cigarette in the UK, soon too be 18+.

Anyone younger than 15 smoking weed in my eyes is considered irresponsible. I often think of those 2 years between 16 and 18 experimental. I found this is when you really start to form your true self, and try new things. It wouldn't justify smoking under age but it would call for leniency. Then, when you're 18 I feel you're big enough and ugly enough too look after yourself, so it's up to you what you do from there onwards. I'm sure plenty of people here will disagree with my view, but that's the way I see it.

[Oneironaut]

Well, even if we accept some kind of age limit on the consumption of cannabis, say 18 years old, I think we ought to make a distinction between how we treat somebody who gives weed to a 17 year old and someone who gives weed to a 2 year old.

[Nation_1ne]

Well, even if we accept some kind of age limit on the consumption of cannabis, say 18 years old, I think we ought to make a distinction between how we treat somebody who gives weed to a 17 year old and someone who gives weed to a 2 year old.

Well I'd say someone who gave weed to a 16 year old is liable to get in trouble but with some leniency. But 15 below they should get full punishment. A similar structure to the way they prosecute a pedophile. Not, the same punishment. Just so there's no misunderstandings.

[vileoxidation]

Of course there's a fuzzy line. It is clearly not okay to smoke up a toddler, but it is okay to smoke up a 50-year-old. Somewhere in between the person in question matures to the point where they can handle it. It is not a single moment in time, but a gradual process.

Are you seriously suggesting that there is a huge ethical difference between offering a joint to somebody who is 17 years and 364 days old and offering somebody a joint on their 18th birthday? I don't think it's that clear-cut.

Okay, lets think about the definition of fuzzy for a minute...

The distinction between a toddler and a 50-year-old, as you used in your post, smoking - NOT fuzzy (and if it is, then your just stupid)

The distinction between a 17-year-old and an 18-year-old smoking - fuzzy.

But you said that this issue brought up the important point of where do we draw that fuzzy line. I mean, that is a good issue to discuss, but when you say it in the context of the rest of your post, it seemed as though you were saying "Well, this is a close call, and the its really close to the point where there is a fuzzy line of distinction."

[tuscani]

doesn't really matter, Fox news viewers already think MJ was created by Satan to fill us with sin. Even a five year old child could never hold down marijuana smoke.

you dont know what you are talking about.

[LazySmoking420]

my opinion is if you want to, you want to, but 2 and 5 is a little young, let them try in about 10 years


That isn't really the point here, The point is two grown 17 year old teenagers that know right from wrong, exploited a couple childern that didn't know any better. They where influenced by an adult in there eyes. A child's brain isnt ready for a psychedelic drug..

We're looking at 20 years to life...

[Nation_1ne]

That isn't really the point here, The point is two grown 17 year old teenagers that know right from wrong, exploited a couple childern that didn't know any better.

We're looking at 20 years to life...

Well said.

[Nocturnal Stoner]

they're gonna stereotype us as being stoned irresponsible potheads...I know we are when we're high, but nothing that calice.

allow it

[Ganj]

Um Im a fox news viewer and im atheist and an avid smoker

He meant to say that you watch Fox News because you're a stoner and not the other way around. Fox news believes that Steve Irwin, the Crocodile Hunter was murdered at his villa on Port au Batois...A bunch of slapsticks at Fox News.

[Ganj]

Okay, lets think about the definition of fuzzy for a minute...

The distinction between a toddler and a 50-year-old, as you used in your post, smoking - NOT fuzzy (and if it is, then your just stupid)

The distinction between a 17-year-old and an 18-year-old smoking - fuzzy.

But you said that this issue brought up the important point of where do we draw that fuzzy line. I mean, that is a good issue to discuss, but when you say it in the context of the rest of your post, it seemed as though you were saying "Well, this is a close call, and the its really close to the point where there is a fuzzy line of distinction."

My point exactly.

[Ganj]

Wow you hit it right on the head. Thats ridiculous. It's a-holes like that that make the rest of us look like degenerate, small minded hippies that listen to Pink FLoyd and laugh at the word "roni".

I'm small-minded. I listen to Pink Floyd and given the appropriate situation, I would probably chuckle at the word "roni." But I would never forcibly get anyone high, nor would I transfer smoke into an undeveloped child's lungs. Sorry. I guess I felt like your post was judging me. My own degenerateness doesn't need any extra help...

[Jizzle Blizzle420]

Damn, how did it get on the news anyway? Did they actually recorded a video and put it up on youtube or some shit like that? You must have an IQ of a pancake to do that..
Anyhow, if i believed in hell or heaven, id choose hell, cuz atleast there i can light my joint

dude in heaven you wouldnt need a joint we wouldnt breathe air it would be ganja smoke, look at Jesus hes a hippie, in the old testament God was viscious, in the new testament God turned all peacefull, its because Jesus got high and was like "Dad, dude, chill man. No need for all that. Hit this and go with it". So the big man chonged out and was like "Man ive done some pretty messed up stuff. My bad".:hippy: