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savagepossum
03-03-2007, 11:54 PM
hi i saw this on another web page and signed straight away please if you see this do your best to bring this to a stop i know i will.

One is a video, but please I cant warn you enough about how disturbing this video is, so if you are at all squeemish or an animal lover you might just want to take my word for it and click on the second item to sign the petition to get this stopped.

This is all in reference to Japan's behaviour when it comes to dolphins, and the annual mass culling that takes place. When the sea turns red you know there is something just not right going on.

Please help the efforts to get Japan bought in line over this by signing the petition.

Many thanks

glumbert.com - Dolphin massacre in Japan (http://www.glumbert.com/media/dolphin)

Stop the dolphin and whale killings in Taiji Petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/golfinho/petition.html)

Once again I must warn you that the content of the video is disturbing.

BizzleLuvin
03-03-2007, 11:57 PM
thanks, i'm going to show this to the vegetarian students association at the next meeting.

Nocturnal Stoner
03-04-2007, 12:05 AM
that almost made me cry and vomit at the same time, thanks possum, at least there are people out in the world that expose the truth.

savagepossum
03-04-2007, 12:06 AM
is anyone going to do anything about this? i mean ffs

lazy smoker7
03-04-2007, 12:10 AM
awww :( this world is so sickening and so unloving and do not send your dogs to the pound! Look at what they do to dogs in the pound! Please Some one help these dogs if they can please ! YouTube - The Kill Box - Dog/Puppie Abuse - Plz Sign!! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iMR9scfrsx0)

halo
03-04-2007, 12:16 AM
Holy shit! Why would anyone do that to those creatures. Dolphins are practically as smart as we are according to some scientists. That is sickening and incredibly inhumane. That makes me dislike Japan a lot.

robert42
03-04-2007, 12:20 AM
thanks for posting this the video was too distressing for me i couldnt watch it all but something needs to be done!

THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS AND THE PETITION!

robert42
03-04-2007, 12:23 AM
HOW AMAZING IS IT THAT DOLPHINS DONT LEAVE INJURED FAMILY MEMBERS THATS LOVE

i just wathced hte over half of the video and i aint ashamed to say im in tears

lazy smoker7
03-04-2007, 12:24 AM
Holy shit! Why would anyone do that to those creatures. Dolphins are practically as smart as we are according to some scientists. That is sickening and incredibly inhumane. That makes me dislike Japan a lot.

Japan is not the only place were sick shit like this happens look at what they do to dogs in North Carolina in the video i posted a few posts above this one!

robert42
03-04-2007, 12:26 AM
Save Taiji Dolphins - end the annual drive fishery slaughter (http://www.earthisland.org/saveTaijiDolphins/takeAction.html)

please if this video affected u read this......... and take action

robert42
03-04-2007, 12:33 AM
Sorry to invade this thread but seriously this aint on i hate shit like this,

Ok so what can normal people like me and you do?

Not much but if everyone acts then maybe JUST maybe we can make a change.

If u want to know how...


Take ActionPlease send a message to the following ASAP:
The Prime Minister of Japan
Mr. Shinzo Abe, Prime Minister of Japan:
Fax: +81-3-3581-3883
E-mail: Please write your comment (http://www.kantei.go.jp/foreign/forms/comment.html)

Embassy of Japan in Washinton D.C.
Ambassador Ryozo Kato
2520 Massachusetts Ave., N.W.
Washington D.C. 20008-2869
Tel: (202) 238-6700,
Fax: 202-328-2187
Hours: M-F 9:15-12:30 and 2:00-6:16
E-mail: [email protected]
Embassy of Japan (http://www.us.emb-japan.go.jp)

If you have time, please consider sending messages to the following:
Cabinet Office, Government of Japan, Tokyo
E-mail: Cabinet Office Home Page (http://www.cao.go.jp/index-e.html)
Visit above website, click the button of “Your Comments” on the right side, and find “links.”
You can also send your comments by clicking “Other Comments (http://www/iijnet.or.jp/cao/kanbou/opinion-kokusai-e.html),” which is below the links. In this case your e-mail will be forwarded to the appropriate section.

Fisheries Agency of Japan
Mr. Yoshio Kobayashi, Director-General of Japan Fisheries Agency:
Fax: +81-3-3502-1682

Mr. Jun Yamashita, Head of Whaling Section of Japan at Far Seas Fisheries Division in Japan Fisheries Agency
Fax: +81-3-3591-5824
E-mail: [email protected]

The Minister of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries of Japan
Mr. Toshikatsu Matsuoka, Minister of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries
Fax: +81-3-3580-5556

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Japan
Mr. Taro Aso, Foreign Minister
E-mail: [email protected]

The Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry
Mr. Akira Amari, Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry
E-mail: [email protected]

The Ministry of the Environment
Ms. Masatoshi Wakabayashi, Minister of the Environment
Fax: +81-3-3581-3003
E-mail: [email protected]

The Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology
Mr. Bunmei Ibuki, Minister of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology
E-mail: Kenji Kosaka Official Web Site (http://www.kenjikosaka.com/home/index_en.phtml?cont=mail_en)

Local Government, Wakayama/Taiji
Mr. Yoshiki Kimura, Governor of Wakayama
Fax: +81-73-441-2020
E-mail: https://www.pref.wakayama.lg.jp/secure/teigen/teigen.html
or [email protected]

Wakayama prefecture:
Nourinsuisanbu Suisankyoku Shigenkanrika
(Resources Management Section at the Fisheries Section, Division of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries of Wakayama prefecture)
Fax: +81-73-432-4124
E-mail: [email protected]

Nourinsuisanbu Suisankyoku Suisanshinkouka
(Fisheries Promotion Section at the Fisheries Section, Division of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries of Wakayama prefecture)
Fax: +81-73-431-2244
E-mail: [email protected]

Mr. Kazutaka Sangen, Taiji Town Mayor
Fax: +81-735-59-2801
E-mail: ??Ž®???~?*??????nA??¾??n?? ?öŽ®?z[???y[?W (http://www.town.taiji.wakayama.jp/)

Secretariat of Taiji Town Assembly
Fax: +81-735-59-2884

Taiji Fishery Cooperative
Fax: +81-735-59-2821

Local Government, Shizuoka/Futo
Mr.Yoshinobu Ishikawa, Governor of Shizuoke prefecture:
Fax: +81-54-221-2164
E-mail: https://www.pref.shizuoka.jp/governor/mailbox/index.htm

Shizuoka prefecture:
Nougyousuisanbu suisanshigenshitu
(Fisheries Resources Online Room, Division of Agriculture and Fisheries of Shizuoka prefecture)
Fax: +81-54-221-3288
E-mail: [email protected]

Mr. Hiromi Tsukuda, City Mayor of Ito
E-mail: [email protected]
Secretariat of Ito City Assembly
E-mail: [email protected]

Ito Fishing Cooperative:
Fax: +81-557-35-0756
E-mail: [email protected]

Ito Fishing Cooperative Futo Branch
Fax: +81-557-51-1139

Shizuoka Kikakubu Kouhoukyoku Kenmin no Koeshitsu
(Online Room for opinions for the people of Shizuoka, Public Relations Section at the Planning Department)
Fax: +81-54-221-2419
E-mail: [email protected]

Breukelen advocaat
03-04-2007, 12:35 AM
awww :( this world is so sickening and so unloving and do not send your dogs to the pound! Look at what they do to dogs in the pound! Please Some one help these dogs if they can please ! YouTube - The Kill Box - Dog/Puppie Abuse - Plz Sign!! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iMR9scfrsx0)


I like dogs, and this video is very disturbing, but at least they are killed painlessly with gas. I don't know if those howling/wimpering sounds, in the dog video, were really happening or added for dramatic effect. Part of the problem is over-breeding of pets.
Whatever the case, it's sad.


The Killing With Kindness Campaign demands one U.S. federal law: That all animal species housed in any shelter/pound/animal control facility shall be euthanized, only when necessary, by a veterinarian or trained, certified euthanasia technician, and that the animal shall first be sedated/tranquilized (when advisable) before being administered a lethal intravenous injection of sodium pentobarbital
"Killing With Kindness: Campaign for a federal law for the humane euthanasia of companion animals" (http://www.crean.com/kindness/)

Diary of a Madman
03-04-2007, 12:38 AM
China is even worse. I keep seeing videos of them with all the dogs in the crates that they throw off of a semi. Then they skin the dogs alive.

Or the rabies thing. When an area gets rabies, squads go around and make noises to make dogs bark, then they kill them no matter where they are. They beat your dog to death while it is on a leash in your hand. True fucking story. I would have been executed in that shit hole country the day that happened and I bit off one of those motherfuckers noses.

Worst animal cruelty of all: French Island, fuck what is the name of it. you guiys can help me out, was it canaries? no,

anyways, they use Labradores to fish for sharks, some people find these big dogs with a crazy hellraiser hook thing through its snout, and it broke off the line and swam away.

I have no problem violently murdering anyone who does shit like that. I knew a kid in highschool that killed dogs and cats, always wanted to open his skull up and feed it to some cute puppies.

robert42
03-04-2007, 01:06 AM
I have no problem violently murdering anyone who does shit like that. puppies.

i actually agree with this and im extremly non violent but ANY cruelty to animals is wrong it really sadens me

if i was dying or had a month to live or was suicidal i'd die making sure i took some of them bastards with me and i swear to that

lazy smoker7
03-04-2007, 01:11 AM
I like dogs, and this video is very disturbing, but at least they are killed painlessly with gas. I don't know if those howling/wimpering sounds, in the dog video, were really happening or added for dramatic effect. Part of the problem is over-breeding of pets.
Whatever the case, it's sad.


The Killing With Kindness Campaign demands one U.S. federal law: That all animal species housed in any shelter/pound/animal control facility shall be euthanized, only when necessary, by a veterinarian or trained, certified euthanasia technician, and that the animal shall first be sedated/tranquilized (when advisable) before being administered a lethal intravenous injection of sodium pentobarbital
"Killing With Kindness: Campaign for a federal law for the humane euthanasia of companion animals" (http://www.crean.com/kindness/)

Are you sure? I heard carbon monoxide posioning was a horrible death...

poiuyt
03-04-2007, 01:15 AM
I'd rather it be them than us.

lazy smoker7
03-04-2007, 01:15 AM
I like dogs, and this video is very disturbing, but at least they are killed painlessly with gas. I don't know if those howling/wimpering sounds, in the dog video, were really happening or added for dramatic effect. Part of the problem is over-breeding of pets.
Whatever the case, it's sad.


The Killing With Kindness Campaign demands one U.S. federal law: That all animal species housed in any shelter/pound/animal control facility shall be euthanized, only when necessary, by a veterinarian or trained, certified euthanasia technician, and that the animal shall first be sedated/tranquilized (when advisable) before being administered a lethal intravenous injection of sodium pentobarbital
"Killing With Kindness: Campaign for a federal law for the humane euthanasia of companion animals" (http://www.crean.com/kindness/)
actually I just read that link and it shows that it dosent seem to be that bad of a death but still they shouldent just kill those puppies either way.

robert42
03-04-2007, 01:16 AM
well it isnt us but it happens to us inn other forms (genocide) but when it happens to us we can speak

we have a voice we can fight back and we can tell people about it

animals dont.

robert42
03-04-2007, 01:17 AM
actually I just read that link and it shows that it dosent seem to be that bad of a death but still they shouldent just kill those puppies either way.

it may be painless but ask your self how them puppies or any other animal is treated prior to their death.

lazy smoker7
03-04-2007, 01:19 AM
it may be painless but ask your self how them puppies or any other animal is treated prior to their death.

did u even read the whole sentence you quoted? I said even if its painless they shouldent be killed and you know i am not talking about the dolphins right? because the way i see the dolphins die is in pain and that is even worse....

Nation_1ne
03-04-2007, 01:24 AM
The footage is disturbing and very upsetting. The way they were exicuted is disgusting, the slicing of the throat.

It's no reason to dislike Japan. Every country has sickening things like this going on. The thing is a great majority don't like it, but a sick few do.

robert42
03-04-2007, 01:26 AM
did u even read the whole sentence you quoted? I said even if its painless they shouldent be killed and you know i am not talking about the dolphins right? because the way i see the dolphins die is in pain and that is even worse....

lol mm yes i did did u not read mine? i too was talking about them dogs agreeing with u... but saying it makes you wonder how them dogs are treated before their death - remember that.


dosent seem to be that bad of a death

thats ok then :rolleyes: :p

GosTo
03-04-2007, 01:30 AM
how can you do that?

lazy smoker7
03-04-2007, 01:35 AM
lol mm yes i did did u not read mine? i too was talking about them dogs agreeing with u... but saying it makes you wonder how them dogs are treated before their death - remember that.



thats ok then :rolleyes: :p

ok I am sorry and yes lol i read your whole sentence, I just did not understand your post.... I got confused at the part saying how they were treated b4 they died and some how I thought you were not agreeing with me i dunno what ever. So correct me if I am wrong do you mean its better that they die painlessly than to be treated bad in a jail of dogs?.. then I understand that but some of those dogs used to be loved pets b4 they got lost you kno.... I just think they shouldent die nor be kept in jail... id rather them, run around the streets. Sorry for the misunderstanding .... Id give you a joint if I could for misunderstanding but unfortunaltey I cant do that so I repped you instead :jointsmile: :D

robert42
03-04-2007, 01:38 AM
ok I am sorry and yes lol i read your whole sentence, I just did not understand your post.... I got confused at the part saying how they were treated b4 they died and some how I thought you were not agreeing with me i dunno what ever. So correct me if I am wrong do you mean its better that they die painlessly than to be treated bad in a jail of dogs?.. then I understand that but some of those dogs used to be loved pets b4 they got lost you kno.... I just think they shouldent die nor kept in jail... id rather the, run around the streets. Sorry for the misconfusion .... Id give you a joint if I could for misunderstanding...

its cool man, what i mean is the dogs might be dying painlessly but id hate to think of the way they are treated before they are killed (by the people who work for pounds)

savagepossum
03-04-2007, 01:39 AM
people please stop hyjacking my thread if you want to talk about dog cruelty make another fucking thread i made this one specificly for the torture and killing of dolphins in japan

lazy smoker7
03-04-2007, 01:41 AM
ahh yes now I understand completly! lol I hate brain farts like the other day I thought it was tuesday when it was actually friday lol

robert42
03-04-2007, 01:41 AM
people please stop hyjacking my thread if you want to talk about dog cruelty make another fucking thread i made this one specificly for the torture and killing of dolphins in japan

But people are. Chill Out :)

Instead of finding the "hijacking" posts why not mention the positive ones.

All u can hope out of this thread is to tell people about this which u did and i thank you for ;)

lazy smoker7
03-04-2007, 01:43 AM
people please stop hyjacking my thread if you want to talk about dog cruelty make another fucking thread i made this one specificly for the torture and killing of dolphins in japan

Ok sorry I brought it up... I just thought if you wnated to help the dolphins maybe some ppl would like to help these dogs also and save them both because they both need saving...

Breukelen advocaat
03-04-2007, 01:45 AM
The vast majority (99%) of euthanized animals in the U.S. are NOT put to death like those in the video because most municipalities have humane animal shelters, and modern methods of animal population control.

Unless private donations to animal shelters dramatically increase, some healthy animals will have to be put to death.

I remember during the Vietnam War, Dick Gregory (I believe) said that if the government tried to take people??s dogs away to kill or be killed overseas, there would be another revolution - but we were allowing them to send their sons over there.

NextLineIsMine
03-04-2007, 01:48 AM
theres the way things should be and theres the way things are (concerning the dog box only). Carbon monoxide is indeed painless its the same way people sit in the garages with the car going. There really is no feasible means of caring for the thousands of animals that go through shelters

the Japanese love for dolphin meat is totally fucked up though

orangeman
03-04-2007, 01:55 AM
Wow, is there even a reason why they do this? Thsoe dolphins look so sad. These people need to be executed. Let me put a bullet in their head please..

edit: I signed the petition.

sam44
03-04-2007, 02:02 AM
I signed it. That video was really hard to watch

bejay
03-04-2007, 02:19 AM
I would assume they are doing it for the meat and its probably not any worse of a death than how most fish from the sea are harvested but seeing how its a dolphin and everyone loves dolphins its a big deal.

robert42
03-04-2007, 02:20 AM
bejay i don't think its because there dolphins that people care, i personally aint a dolphin fan its the way they suffer that bothers me but i understand what u r saying ;)

orangeman
03-04-2007, 02:22 AM
bejay i don't think its because there dolphins that people care, i personally aint a dolphin fan its the way they suffer that bothers me but i understand what u r saying ;)

Yeah same. I'm not a dolphins person either. Never thought of 'em till I seen this vid, that was just horrible. They were basically tortured like they probably do people they catch in war and shit.

savagepossum
03-04-2007, 02:34 AM
me and a couple of mates feel very strongly about animal cruelty and we are planning to go to japan to try and stop this when it next takes place, i don't give a fuck if i get arrested, my friends i are willing to stop these people by any means possible because even though this petition is still doing something its not enough

robert42
03-04-2007, 02:35 AM
me and a couple of mates feel very strongly about animal cruelty and we are planning to go to japan to try and stop this when it next takes place, i don't give a fuck if i get arrested, my friends i are willing to stop these people by any means possible because even though this petition is still doing something its not enough

i agree, u should look into going with a group of other protested

i'd be up for joining that

MrGreenFingaz
03-04-2007, 08:16 AM
i actually agree with this and im extremly non violent but ANY cruelty to animals is wrong it really sadens me

if i was dying or had a month to live or was suicidal i'd die making sure i took some of them bastards with me and i swear to that

Lol, every1 goes through dying at some point in their life, have fun with your killing spree!:D

SkatePopwar
03-04-2007, 08:33 AM
holy shit!, i just watched that video and im ripped and that was so fucked up and unneccesary. i wonder how that little shit would feel if someone hacked him with that knife?

Reefer Rogue
03-04-2007, 08:49 AM
I don't wanna watch the video, i'll sign the petition though.

BabySnookums
03-04-2007, 10:41 AM
i dont think its right for them to be killing dolphins in the first place, they're wonderful, smart creatures....

(i love the dolphin on seaquest:dsv lol)

but if they're gonna kill em to eat anyways...at least kill em quickly before they cut em up, y'know?

not sayin this to hijack, but its similar to what ppl do to catfish...while the fish is still alive and flailing, they peel its skin off w/pliers

that shit is cruel...

EDIT: i'm now going to sign the petition....slip was watching it and i'm lookin at the poor dolphins flailing in pain...that shits wrong and needs to be stopped... :mad:

ValkyrieAg
03-04-2007, 04:19 PM
Wow. Yall need to get a grip on reality.

Animals die every day. The indians used to chase buffalo off cliffs. My dad owned a slaughter house when I was younger that would see about 350 head of cattle per day. They are popped in the head with a metal rod and they hit the skids to the kill floor. Within 30 feet, they are headless and skinless and fixin to get sawed in half.

Don't be such liberal wusses, people. I have probably done some things that would make yall lose your lunch. Someone has to do it whether to control population or make some food.

And how else are you supposed to skin a fish? A deer? Your hamburger.

Don't be so hypocritical, this ain't candy land.

savagepossum
03-04-2007, 04:29 PM
no it aint 'candyland' but you cannot justify this

ValkyrieAg
03-04-2007, 04:37 PM
you can't kill an animal with a flower and hopes and dreams.

I personally have drug a steer we were fixing to slaughter with a truck so we could hang it and skin it. Ever seen a steer attempt to jump a cattle guard? hehe. They don't usually make it.

Shot hogs point blank in a trailer before slaughter.

Im sure yall people have never actually killed anything yourself. Closest thing is probably using a can opener. All I ask is don't be so ignorant. It makes you look stupid.

GRB.4.Life
03-04-2007, 04:43 PM
And they get mad at us for cultivating a fuckin flower.

The shit is twisted. :mad:

There are better methods to supply and demand. Yes it's all turned to food but these people apparently have fun murdering and torturing these creatures.

They took the dolphins and cut thier main arteries and let them bleed to death dude.

Do you do that to pigs and steer? No, hell no.

savagepossum
03-04-2007, 04:56 PM
you can't kill an animal with a flower and hopes and dreams.

I personally have drug a steer we were fixing to slaughter with a truck so we could hang it and skin it. Ever seen a steer attempt to jump a cattle guard? hehe. They don't usually make it.

Shot hogs point blank in a trailer before slaughter.

Im sure yall people have never actually killed anything yourself. Closest thing is probably using a can opener. All I ask is don't be so ignorant. It makes you look stupid.

look cunt just because your dead inside doesn't mean everyone else is i don't know what your trying to achieve hear because i eat meat myself and i accept that we have a right to kill animals to feed ourselves but only if it is done right i.e a quick kill were the animal hasn't suffered unnessecerely

i don't need a fucking life lesson from you so take a look at the video and if you still think that killing those dolphins in that way is justified then thats the difference between me and you end of.

GRB.4.Life
03-04-2007, 05:05 PM
Seriously man. Why would you try to justify what they do to those dolphins? It's not a matter of whether you can kill or watch something being killed. There are principals involved here man.

Why must they kill so many? Population control???? Dude these dolphins are WILD ANIMALS! You don't start a massacre to control population.

So basically in your opinion, we should start offing people by the thousands by slicing thier jugular viens to simply control the population??

The pigs, chickens and cattle that are killed for people to eat are farm raised, monitored and properly proccessed. They are not inhumanely slaughtered by hand.

YOU are the one that needs to get a grip on reality dude.

I bet this guy's thinking, "they're going to die anyways"...

...Yea, well so are you.

CYRAX
03-04-2007, 05:19 PM
Sorry but... that is wrotten, I could do that to their race with no mercy for such lethal actions, with no second thoughts or care.... karma's a bitch.. but what can we do about it besides that sign up form? nothing.. it might never change... If I was a president or something, that would be war worthy because I wouldn't want my own kind in that type of terror...

rebgirl420
03-04-2007, 08:19 PM
Really Valk thats pretty freaking cruel.

ZeldaG.
03-05-2007, 07:13 PM
Wow. Yall need to get a grip on reality.


and i thout that iwas the one who had to point this out :P

okay its sad to watch an animal writhing in pain as it dies, but no one is making you do it!! dont go searching the internet for stuff like this and you will be fine ;)


me and a couple of mates feel very strongly about animal cruelty

okay me too, but i classify cruelty as: causing pain to a living being for no reason whatesover other than to see its reaction to the pain or to have fun casuing the pain (eg: shooting at moving targets or knife throwing) thta is curelty not when people are catching animals to feed humans!!

thtas ridiculous i mean if some asshole decided to ban killing cows because he things it looks unsightly and i cant get myself a bigmac i would fucking screw.

your being bloody chidlish and stupid!!

For fuks sake!!

I go fishing and the sight is the same as the one in the dolphin video exept the damn fish are smaller why is it that because this fish is a bit bigger than the pike i catch and it deserves all this attention, its bullshit!

Okay and also i thing eating a dog wouldnt be a thing i chose to do but if the chinese want to eat dogs they shoudl eat dogs.

Dont see them saying things like: those fucking british how can they kill all those chickens!!!

okay i now that i have calmed down, i can say i do agree with you!! :D

they are killing them in horrible ways, i am pretty sure they can come up with a scheme to kill them less painfully, but than again you must think about the man making money from the meat, how much money is he going to lose by training his workers to kill painlessly or installing the required tevchnology :S

in other words forget it mate!

its a pointless cause.

ps:
if you do get down there to protest bring me back some dolphin meat i bet that shit tastes GoooooD! :thumbsup:

savagepossum
03-05-2007, 07:38 PM
what the crap? who moved this into activism?

GRB.4.Life
03-05-2007, 09:04 PM
I'de just like to point out that a Dolphin is not a fish.

It's a mammal...

And in fact, no it's not really a pointless cause...If you understood better the cause and actual point you may agree a little more. It's understood that in order to eat a living thing it must be killed first. That's not the point. The point is the PRINCIPALS of the issue at hand.

The methods they use to kill and proccess thier "delicacy" are completely inhumane. Where is the intuitiveness humans are supposed to be so full of?

It just proves once more that some species of human aren't much smarter than thier own meals...

ZeldaG.
03-05-2007, 09:24 PM
hmmm i see...



The methods they use to kill and proccess thier "delicacy" are completely inhumane. Where is the intuitiveness humans are supposed to be so full of?

see i already said that:


they are killing them in horrible ways, i am pretty sure they can come up with a scheme to kill them less painfully, but than again you must think about the man making money from the meat, how much money is he going to lose by training his workers to kill painlessly or installing the required tevchnology

see so i do see what you are saying about it being really painful and all that but for it to be less painful the big man at the top is going ot be losing money, and what big man at the top wants to lose money :D ?


It just proves once more that some species of human aren't much smarter than thier own meals...


there now you are thinking along the lines of what i am saying, we are just animals in a big world, i mean there were probably days where we coudlnt even take on dolphins or we where hunted by lions and such but now that we have evolved enough to pawn the world for tasty meat i think we should :D


lol damn im too high for this lol...

Nocturnal Stoner
03-05-2007, 10:14 PM
killing an animal is almost on the same level as killing a human if not the same, the worse thing about killing an animal is that they cannot speak to distress their anguish, pain and suffering, also they are defenseless in the hands of men, one day man will understand that they must not take the job of god into their own hands and let nature take it's course. Anyone who harms or kills an innocent animal should burn in hell!

ZeldaG.
03-05-2007, 10:22 PM
killing an animal is almost on the same level as killing a human if not the same, the worse thing about killing an animal is that they cannot speak to distress their anguish, pain and suffering, also they are defenseless in the hands of men, one day man will understand that they must not take the job of god into their own hands and let nature take it's course. Anyone who harms or kills an innocent animal should burn in hell!


what the hell!!?

they are not playing god they are killing to survive !!! (well not reall but still)

they are simply killing a living creature for food,

i aint sure but i reckon the dolphin eats meat, like many other mammals (lol)

and yes of course it is on the same level as killing a human, the only time killing a human is wrong is if it is another human killing another human.

but diffferent species killing each other is how nature works...

so it is nature's course if oyu see what i mean....

Willard_420
03-06-2007, 12:10 AM
what the hell!!?

they are not playing god they are killing to survive !!! (well not reall but still)

they are simply killing a living creature for food,

i aint sure but i reckon the dolphin eats meat, like many other mammals (lol)

and yes of course it is on the same level as killing a human, the only time killing a human is wrong is if it is another human killing another human.

but diffferent species killing each other is how nature works...

so it is nature's course if oyu see what i mean....

Yeah... too bad we fuck it up and whipe out entire speicies... nor do animals need to be tortured to death.

Diary of a Madman
03-06-2007, 01:03 AM
AAHHHH! again with the politics! Whoever said "ya'll liberals" or whatever makes any southerners look fucking stupid.

I am a southern Republican. Fuck slowly killing animals. Can I slowly kill your animals? "THEY NEEDS KILLIN! hyuck hyuck!!!"

People should be aloud to hunt and fish, but I think that goes a little beyond what is necessary. Hunting for fur is bullshit too i.e. China killing dogs for fur. This aint 1760. I mean, fuck, thats all their country does is sew, lol cmon, get some clothes from wallmart

mfqr
03-06-2007, 01:17 AM
This pisses me off to no end. I cannot believe this. What gives us, even as the top predators of the world, the right to kill animals for these reasons? You say that there are too many in the shelter, so that is why they are killing them? Humans are overpopulated. Why don't they have the right to reproduce like us too? If I saw one of these fucks, I would probably end up killing them. If not, then they'd be very close to dead, in intensive care, on a respirator, struggling for life. Yes, I'd rather have them suffer for long periods of time, rather than die. I hate humans like this. Why does anyone even work there with the cruelty that is happening? Don't any of those faggots have any morality or ethics? Nobody has quit because of this moral issue? Fuck them. I think there's only one thing to do, and that would be to rescue all the animals there, put them some place else, and burn that place down. I'd rather be arrested for arson than let this go on. It's criminal action which will put this criminal action to rest. Burn that place up. Don't just burn it, blow it up.

Jimmicrackedcorn
03-06-2007, 01:17 AM
No shooting in the head, no gassing, no slicing throats, no suffocation, no burning. How do you humanely and painlessly end another living beings life?

ZeldaG.
03-06-2007, 11:34 PM
No shooting in the head, no gassing, no slicing throats, no suffocation, no burning. How do you humanely and painlessly end another living beings life?

LMAO

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ValkyrieAg
03-07-2007, 05:25 AM
Wow I lost track of this thread!

Just because I was brought up where you eat what you kill, whether it be dove, pig, deer, beef, fish whatever. People can go out, eat fried chicken, and never think twice. They are dead and someone earns a paycheck by slaughtering them. And when I mean slaughter I mean slaughter, thats what the term is. Its called a slaughterhouse.

Its pretty senseless when they catch dolphins and sharks in nets, kill em and toss them overboard. Thats what should be stopped.

But whatever, I'm sure yall think that tuna comes from a can. Think about a butcher....he does this all day long....*wow* he must be a sadistic fuck killing all those animals.

Circle of life, people.

ZeldaG.
03-08-2007, 12:11 AM
Don't any of those faggots have any morality or ethics? Nobody has quit because of this moral issue?

how dare you fucking question the maral issues here you idiot, i swear you sound so childish:

How can that man go and kill the big fish mommy!?
Why doesnt he just find a new job?

bloody idiot, i bet most of them hardly have a choice probably working under lower wage to kill those dolphins but that doesnt become so much of a bloody moral issue when the only other choice is to not afford food for his own bloody family.

Come on you got to proieper use common sense people i am sure you will see that your talking crap.

GRB.4.Life
03-11-2007, 04:16 PM
Wow I lost track of this thread!

Just because I was brought up where you eat what you kill, whether it be dove, pig, deer, beef, fish whatever. People can go out, eat fried chicken, and never think twice. They are dead and someone earns a paycheck by slaughtering them. And when I mean slaughter I mean slaughter, thats what the term is. Its called a slaughterhouse.

Its pretty senseless when they catch dolphins and sharks in nets, kill em and toss them overboard. Thats what should be stopped.

But whatever, I'm sure yall think that tuna comes from a can. Think about a butcher....he does this all day long....*wow* he must be a sadistic fuck killing all those animals.

Circle of life, people.

No body is arguing with where the food comes from dude. We are all aware of thise. How many times do you have to be told?

It's the inhumane methods they use to execute the creatures that are being disputed...

Does it matter how we kill them? Well, absolutely. The whole idea of being human is that we are smarter than any other creature on this planet, right?

Ok well in todays advanced world TIME IS MONEY. So wouldn't a SMART human know that the faster you proccess your product the more efficient the whole proccess would become?

By slicing thier main arteries and letting them bleed to death is inhumane simply because of the fact that it is not smart in any way shape or form.

"Oh the poor bastards can't afford other methods to proccess the animals..."

So you mean to tell me that they can't afford a larger blade and a chopping block to simply end the creatures life in one shot by decapitating the animal instead of slowly cutting its main arteries, letting it bleed to death and further more making it suffer, slowly?????

If time is money wouldn't you want to make sure that product is packaged and put on those shelves as fast as possible? So what are they waiting around for? Why are they watching these creatures convulse and flop around while bleeding to death until they die?????

If money is the issue, shit, get rid of a few employees and bring in some better machines. Or get rid of that truck with the big bed on the back of it that never gets used because they choose to DRAG the product to the location where they'll slice it's main arteries and continuously waste time AND MONEY...

No, I'm sorry, but logically this is EXTREMELY unacceptable from a human beings point of view. And if you are ok with thier methods and logic then you ARE a sadistic fuck.

doodly
03-11-2007, 08:13 PM
you got my vote. but where do you draw the line on what not to bucher? I am a meat eater. im sure the pig farm down the road is just as sick. so you ask why am i giving my signature? dolfins are just so cute :p

GRB.4.Life
03-12-2007, 01:39 AM
you got my vote. but where do you draw the line on what not to bucher? I am a meat eater. im sure the pig farm down the road is just as sick. so you ask why am i giving my signature? dolfins are just so cute :p

lol

Well...Everyone has thier reasons.

It's not about what not to butcher. It's about how to intelligently "butcher" that creature.

The way they are killing those dolphins is just simply not intelligent. Not in any business sense or other wise humane sensibility fashion.

bejay
03-12-2007, 02:47 AM
im sure the dolphins died alot quicker death from slitting their throat versus being left tangled in a net until dead, but that may of made the video look so much better to people, as they wouldnt have to see them die.
even if they decapitated them would a headless dolphin still flipping its tail make the video look any better.

GRB.4.Life
03-12-2007, 10:25 AM
im sure the dolphins died alot quicker death from slitting their throat versus being left tangled in a net until dead, but that may of made the video look so much better to people, as they wouldnt have to see them die.
even if they decapitated them would a headless dolphin still flipping its tail make the video look any better.

My opinion? Of course not.

It's not going to be a pleasent sight no matter which way you look at it.

But we're relying on common sense to initiate some intuitive thinking here. After all, human beings are the most advanced creatures on this planet. Shouldn't we act like it?

Picture it as if you owned a dolphin fishing company. How would you operate, even under low funding?

Basically my arguement is different from most. I'm not saying don't kill the dolphins. If that is what they like to eat, by all means, they have the God given right. But on that same level you should respect that right.

Maybe they don't have to kill so many if they can properly proccess them faster...

At any rate something should be done. These people are taking dolphins right out of thier migratory routes by the THOUSANDS and pointlessly killing some of them and leaving them to rot in the ocean. They take so many at one time in thier nets that they can't proccess them all in one day. So the ones that die in the nets are left to float out into the ocean. This information was not given to you in the video. I did other research on it.

No matter which way you look at it that is not right. It's unnatural...

Maggz
03-19-2007, 01:34 AM
You're all part of the "Save The Whales" foundation