"Elongating" buds?

[bud luv]

I don't know how else to describe this, but high up on some of my BB's it seems that stalks are growing out of the buds, with these thin "elongated" buds growing from the new stalks. I can't say I'm happy about this, the new growth is not dense at all and really weird. On a lot of these elongated portions, there are calyxes every few milimeters, but not the stacking up of calyxes that you'd want to see. At first I thought I might have a hermie problem, but the elongated buds have been here for a few weeks and no 'nanas can be found. They fill out a little bit as time goes on, but they're definitely not the type of dense nuglets that you want.

I suspect that heat stress might be causing this, can anyone confirm? The BB grew a lot higher than I expected (closer to the lite) and this is only occurring near the tops of the plants. The rapid change in climate around here has warmed things up a lot in the grow room. A/C will be going in for the next go-around. I've attached some pics, they're not the best though. Thanks.

your buddy,
budluv.

p.s. In the first pic I'm holding onto one of the "elongations", in the second pic one is growing out the bud on the opposite side of the hand, the third pic is a top of a plant that is just full of them.

[4x5]

How old? (5 weeks into flower?) I've seen this on a few very old plants (9-10 weeks into flower), yours look fairly young, maybe not enough fan leaves to support the sugar-rush? btw what are your temps? Just be patient, they pack on the weight very quickly at the end, yours may need an extra week or so on top of what you think you have left.

[kindprincess]

hey bud, lemme gess; you're feeding with a super phosphate? stop. switch to a light fert, like root stimulator, and suplement with superthrive and molasses.

large amounts of phosphates cause/encourage the stretch.

[JackdaWack]

intreasting, i too have a similiar problem, not as bad tho, My b.b. is kinda actin the same way but only on the top cola, i see my top cola lookin skimpy... and more lower buds look really nice and dense, im not sure why they do this, i raised my lights to see if it was some sort of burn byproduct. They just started to grow more not in bud production but hieght. im hoping they fill out like 4x5 said, but im only at like week 3 of flower. So im alittle behind, my buds look the same sizes not filled out as much. B.B. puts on alot of wieght int he last week or 2 i hear.

[u.g.u]

the thing that normaly does that is to much nitrogen in flowering also somethimes a light leak but then you have the 1 bladed leaves to go along with it

[bud luv]

4x5 - these are about 8 wks into flower. Almost all of the middle and lower buds are pretty much done and look really beautiful and dense. maybe 5% amber trichs on the middle of the plant and down and I want to chop these portions soon. I've been flushing for about 4 days.

KP- As far as my recipe, it's pretty much lucas GH with calmag+, liquid karma and sweet. PPMs were around 1600 before I started flushing. Not sure if that's "super" phosphate, is it?

JDW - Yeah, sounds like you're describing my plants exactly like they were a month ago.

[bud luv]

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/104826-crispi.html#post1284740
here's a pic of a bud I took off about 4 days ago, just to have something early. All the lower buds look like this, but as you can see the three pics I posted of the tops are pretty ugly in comparison.

WTF.

[bud luv]

the thing that normaly does that is to much nitrogen in flowering also somethimes a light leak but then you have the 1 bladed leaves to go along with it

I cut the N way back a few weeks ago. They were only getting N from the 5-0-4 GH micro nutes.... 1 bladed leaves to go along with what? a light leak? there isn't a light leak.
It is a little too warm in there though.....

budluv

[justaseed]

i think you have a heat problem, along with the "funny buds" which i have seen to a much lesser extent about a year ago when one of my fans died and i had heat issues for a week until i got a new 1, you also seem to have alot of dead leaves which is not a good thing either. i can't make a diagnosis about that with the very distorted pics though. maybe you overferted them before you started the flush or maybe you have ph issues causing lockouts. this is just speculation as those are some common mistakes made. the light in the background really makes the pics blurry and the colors distorted. btw, the strain that i saw the "elongated buds" was gypsy's kiss from reeferman and i also had ww growing side by side which never showed the problem. good luck.

[xcrispi]

Looks good Bud ,
1 of my 3 b/b looked more green / orange like these pics. of yours and 2 were much more purple pheno. I had a ruff. grow prev. to this 1 caused cause my cheap ass wouldnt buy a p/h pen . Whats happening to your plants here happened to them also , but was from light leaks . I invested in badass lil round 4in. darkroom vents . You said you don't believe you have any leaks though ?
No clue man ??
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

[Lozt]

I have to agree with justaseed one of my first grows was in an attic and the first one ended in may. When I started the second It was almost june and the temps in the room were 90 or better every day. The first grow was amazing I did very well and I used the same ammount of light, the same fert., and same co2 methods the only thing that changed was the heat in the room. The budz looked whispy and long very little weight at all and it looked allot like yours.

Whats was the adverage temp of the room and what was the difference in temp between the day and the night cycle???

LOzt...

[bud luv]

yeah, temp problems were my original thesis on this.

When they started growing around new years it was cold as hell around here and my gro room temps never got above 78. Recently it's heated up a lot and after the lights have been on for about 6-8 hours it can get up into the very high 80s right by the light, if not 90 sometimes. The BB grew taller than I could handle on a flood table, even with only 1 wk of veg. I had another strain in the room which was much much much shorter than the BB, which I already harvested, and it didn't do any of the elongating. It was a crappy strain though, but that's another story....

[Lozt]

yeah 4 sure its temp problems I had the same problems when I strted my first one it was arround dec too and by june I had the same problem on my second Heat is one of the biggest obsticles for an in door grower plants thrive between 76 and 84 F at 92 growth slows and at 98 it stops all togther

Good luck my friend and get the heat under control or you are gunna have the same out come

Take care LOzt

[JackdaWack]

yeah im gonna keep picking my light up until it goes away the bottom buds are getting so dense tho....

[TheGreenFog]

I'd say heat stress...for sure.


But that's just me. :jointsmile:


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[stinkyattic]

I'd say heat stress...for sure.
But that's just me. :
:

Naw bro I got your back.
Heat stress, word.

-fluffy wispy buds
-leaves cupping upwards, giving them a thin look
-discoloration at edges of cupped leaves

[TheGreenFog]

Word. Yea, unfortunately, you will soon see why I am so sure of it. :(


WHY ARE THE BOARDS SOOOO DEAD? :sadcrying


I better stop posting myself too and take a break, eh? :o Then come back with a VENGENCE! :rambo:


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[Comatose]

This just happened to me on my very first grow... I've been trying to find a post here to comment on it so that I didn't have to create another repeater thread :).

For my first grow, I just did one female, cut some clones to veg, and then flowered her. I let her veg for way too long, and by the time she went into flower, her height was a problem. I bent her for a while, but she was outgrowing my room. The top bud ended up finished about 6" away from a 400W HPS. During the last few weeks, the top bud grew a weird "deformity". It looked like the cotyledon leaves that first come out from a seed, but they were raised up on a three inch stem.

I wasn't able to find any information on it at first, so I just harvested everything that was 18" or closer to the light. Since she was well over 2 meters, that wasn't a really big issue for me. I figured that the plant was using up resources making this weird deformity, so it was best to take it out.

A lot of the leaves and trichomes had been burnt a little bit, and I was worried that it wouldn't smoke well. I dried for a week and cured for a week, and I would say that it still smoked great. I'm an every day smoker, so if it gets me high for a few hours, we're doing great.

Anyways, I'm glad that I finally found someone that had this same issue. If you find that your buds are doing this, it is MOST DEFINITELY a heat stress issue! :) Like they say, your first grow is all about learning.... lesson learned!