crystal meth

[DARCI71]

Ok-there is a friend of mine who took crystal meth and is feeling very tired-lathargic-and nervous. She said she used in past and it worked great.
She is currently on a anti-siezure medication called lamictal which may be why she is
experiencing the difference this time? Her friend had some and said it seemed ok but I wanted to see if anyone knew about the possible reasons she would respond like that. Also-the crystal was clear and last time she bought some it had a brown tint to it. Is one better than the other?

Thank you for any feedback!

[InhaleItALL]

Ok-there is a friend of mine who took crystal meth and is feeling very tired-lathargic-and nervous. She said she used in past and it worked great.
She is currently on a anti-anxiety called lamictal which may be why she is
experiencing the difference this time? Her friend had some and said it seemed ok but I wanted to see if anyone knew about the possible reasons she would respond like that. Also-the crystal was clear and last time she bought some it had a brown tint to it. Is one better than the other?

Darci meth is poison.

[DARCI71]

thank you! I know...I am working on that issue now.

[InhaleItALL]

thank you! I know...I am working on that issue now. Sorry, wasn't trying to pass judgement or anything. Have just seen people completly destroyed by that crap. I mean, it is made with alkaline from batteries and shit for chrissakes. It litterally eats it way out of your skin. Very very bad shit.

Again, wasn't trying to judge.
peace.

[Kid Dynamite]

fucking hell mate...crystal meth. That stuff is just fucked. I would say the reason she is feeling crap is cos shes taking meths, other than that i dont know anything else about it.

[BlastedTOtheSKY]

dont mix drugs with perscription medication...unless you know what will happen for sure

[sampson419]

drugs are shitty for you, just smoke weed.

[Hektik]

Ah meth.... Meth is like 20x easyier to get here where i live then weed, i got a lot of tweeker friends. Me and meth go wayyy back... staying up 13 dayz.... crazy shit.

[kr1Nx01]

staying up 13 days, not eating, putting your entire body under loads of physical stress, and surviving?

...congratgulations?

[TheKizzy]

Yeah hek your sooooo dumb. But hey man I'm sure your friends think your really cool for doing meth, hey man I think your cool that you do it and I want to hang out with you...LOOSER

[Day Dreamin Faze]

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/meth/meth_effects.shtml

I love this quote whoever posted it on these boards...

"Inform yourself adequately. Remember drugs are like guns, completely harmless until used. It's the user's discretion to use their possessions responsibly"

[LonerStoner]

"Users of large amount of amphetamines over a long period of time can develop an amphetamine psychosis, which is a mental disorder similar to paranoid schizophrenia. The psychosis is manifested by hallucinations, delusions, and paranoia. Bizarre, sometime violent, behavior is exhibited by those with amphetamine psychosis. Symptoms usually disappear within a few weeks after drug use stops."

Yikes

[gotsoul23]

it was probably cut with something else..

[Leandra]

I tried it once and I want more really bad. I want to ry to take it at school because when I'm speeding I can think my own thoughts and hear/process what others are saying. I bet I would kick ass in Science class. It's soo hard to find any good weed around here. There is no acid, no shrooms, I live in seclusion with dirty weed. If someone wants to make some money I'll tell you where you can bring some good weed..

[Frost.]

I tried it once and I want more really bad. I want to ry to take it at school because when I'm speeding I can think my own thoughts and hear/process what others are saying. I bet I would kick ass in Science class. It's soo hard to find any good weed around here. There is no acid, no shrooms, I live in seclusion with dirty weed. If someone wants to make some money I'll tell you where you can bring some good weed..

you live in seclusion with dirty weed, ouch.

[IonMyke]

"Users of large amount of amphetamines over a long period of time can develop an amphetamine psychosis, which is a mental disorder similar to paranoid schizophrenia. The psychosis is manifested by hallucinations, delusions, and paranoia. Bizarre, sometime violent, behavior is exhibited by those with amphetamine psychosis. Symptoms usually disappear within a few weeks after drug use stops."

Yikes

here in hawaii they call it "ice"......it is beyond out of control, the govt is calling it an "epidemic".

the shit will completley break you down. all the above symptoms are completley true. people get COMPLETLEY delusinal and unpredictable. paranoid as all fuck, and violent.

[Bwueh]

Yeah sorry your friend wasn't doing crystal meth. They were doing that drug in the next form and it's called "ICE" and yes it will destroy that person. It's bad in Cali I heard. It's like super concentrated meth.

[IonMyke]

well i dunno about cali, but ice is slang for crystal meth amphetamine here in hawaii bro, but yeah it is serious bussiness...


dont need to eat...

dont need to sleep...

dont feel pain...

its scary shit man, i'd advise your friend to avoid it like oral herpes.

[Nullific]

"Yeah hek your sooooo dumb. But hey man I'm sure your friends think your really cool for doing meth, hey man I think your cool that you do it and I want to hang out with you...LOOSER"

Hey all you pot heads are fuckin stupid. You think smoking marijuana makes you cool but you're a loser.

Really though, the come downs from meth can be pretty harsh and you never know what else is in that shit. For all of you saying that "it is made with alkaline from bateries and shit" I must ask...Methamphetamine is not hard to make, it can be synthesized from over the counter sinus medications containing pseudoephedrine, some of the other chemicals used to make the product may be harmful but if the process was done right the end product should be mostly methamphetamine. Unfortunately the doses for pure d-methamphetamine are small amounts of material and should not be measured with your eye, on the street it is usually found with its isomers, amphetamine, left over pseudoephedrine, methylphenidate and who knows what else.

Methamphetamine is a schedule II substance, which means it has accepted medical use and can be perscribed but not easily while marijuana is shedule I. In world war II the germans and americans gave amphetamines to soldiers to make them more alert. Hitler was rumoured to have been a user of methamphetamine (though he did not drink or smoke) as was John Kennedy (he conducted all his work in the white house on speed).

[herbalmeditation]

children drugs are baad... hmmkay? i live in the ice capital, and i've never even held it before but i know loads of chronics (hawaii's word for junkies) who have.. if it's brown then it was cooked wrong by an inexperienced dope maker.. hence the bad trip, at least she's still alive though.. soo many people die out here because of bonk dope, it's sad..

[MedicalMarijuana]

If your friends re doing meth than they arent your real friends. next thing you know they wanna jack you to go buy a sack. stick with mj

[Not Enough Herb]

sum ignorant fuckers on this board man

do w/e fuckin drugs u want...who r to say what sumone else can do or cant do...no one tells u to smoke weed or not to smoke weed so y cant sumone do meth.

later

[Nullific]

Are you kidding me?
So I could have a friend addicted to cough medicine, caffeine, tobacco or cannbis...but not meth because it is 'hard' :eek:
Or maybe not even they're straight...maybe my 'friends' are going to jack me so they can buy a pack of cigarettes or a box of coricidin or a coffee...I better watch my back.
This drug is undoubtedly addictive and addictions can cause people to loose control, but that is from the persons personality not the substance.

It is the same bullshit the government starts with "Real friends don't let friends do drugs." mainly targeted at marijuana smokers. Wake up.

[RIP ODB]

This might have even been mentioned already but I know that crystal meth has the lowest recovery rate of any drug. That is, hardly anyone who gets addicted to it comes back to sobriety. I'm blazed so bear with me.

[SmoKa]

Fuck that shit. If you feel like ruining your life... go for it... i personally am going to keep my precious ass body far away from that meth shit.

[RIP ODB]

Fuck that shit. If you feel like ruining your life... go for it... i personally am going to keep my precious ass body far away from that meth shit.
Word.

[kiwi]

:rolleyes: Over here, New Zealand, meth is called "P" or "ICE". Its really big over here and at times is easier to obtain then cannabis is. Not so long ago I went tho a patch of using it on a daily basis until one day I just woke up and thought "to hell with this shit", and I tipped $1000 worth of it down the toilet. In the time I was using no one ever knew and done of my mates had any idea. Since then I have told them and none of them ever noticed any crazy behavour from me, but within myself I know what it can do and i thank my lucky stars that it didn't fuck me up. Once a month or so I do have it but it doesn't control my life nor am I hungrey for it. I control my drugs they don't control me :mad:

[Dick Justice]

Good on you. That extra $1000 worth could have easily fucked up your life for good. Now maybe your toilet is jonesin', but not you.

[Creeper]

Ok children, lets crush up some sudafed pills, mix it with some battery acid, then some ammonia, and whatever the hell else we can find under the sink and in the bathroom and mix it together, cook it for awhile (btw the fumes cause brain damage, loads of fun!) then well snort it untill were digging at our skin like monkeys digging for mites, sounds like fun huh?!.........phhh.

[Nullific]

Ok children, lets crush up some sudafed pills, mix it with some battery acid, then some ammonia, and whatever the hell else we can find under the sink and in the bathroom and mix it together, cook it for awhile (btw the fumes cause brain damage, loads of fun!) then well snort it untill were digging at our skin like monkeys digging for mites, sounds like fun huh?!.........phhh.
Salt water can be made from lye (drain cleaner) and hydrochloric acid (very corrosive acid).
I don't know what they taught you about meth in school, but its made from reduction of ephedrine and for large scale synthesis it would be impracticle to use pseudoephedrine containing OTC medications. There are many methods for making meth and it is pretty easy to do but it isn't like these kitchen chemists are using random chemicals, most have to have at least a basic understanding of what they are doing.
It is correct though that meth on the streets is impure, users cannot be sure of its potency (it is like you couldn't tell beer from hard liquor) and it would be better off legalized or allowed for doctors to prescribe to addicts since they are obiously going to use it anyways. This would also keep it out of the hands of teens.
Another part of the problem is that the overwhelming majority of schools drug education programs call for teaching abstinence as opposed to harm reduction.

If you want to look at it chemically you will see that methamphetamines come in two flavors or isomers dextro and levo, dextro being several times more potent. d-methamphetamine is what people on the street want although street meth usually turns out to be a mix of both isomers as well as the precursors psuedo/ephedrine. l-methamphetamine is found over the counter in small quantities such as in Vicks Nasal Inhalers but the active ingredients list has it as 'levmetamfetamine'. This is why we call it the War on some drugs, chemically these substances are very similar, they are isomers of each other and yet one has greater pyschological effects and thus is considered a bad drug.

[sToNeDpEnGuIn420]

Yeah hek your sooooo dumb. But hey man I'm sure your friends think your really cool for doing meth, hey man I think your cool that you do it and I want to hang out with you...LOOSER
Dude chill your doin exactly wtf ppl do to us about weed, so if your not seeing it your being no different then the ppl u hate....SO STFU

[Bwueh]

Dude Nulific, I'm glad your here to educate these people.

[DreamSmoke]

Dude, she's doing Crystal Meth and taking seizure medications? Oh boy...she mht be in for a rude awakening...sad to say...

[Looker]

YOULL END UP GETTING ARRESTED NAKED IN YOUR PICKUP TRUCK SOMEWHERE IN SEATTLE ....

LIKE ON COPS....

[libramom30]

stick with the herbs.......maybe you'll live longer, and it cures all kinds of problems =o)

[andruejaysin]

Meth can cause seizures in high doses, no one on seizure meds has any business doing it. But she can send some to me and I'll tell her if it's any good.

[Nullific]

Benzodiazepines are prescribed for treatment of seizures as well as insomnia and anxiety, people also take them while comming down off of a stimulant such as meth or MDMA to make it smoother and help them sleep.

[Creeper]

Wow Nullific, what are you a doctor or teacher or something...lol, Ive read in certain places that meth is cooked with crushed up sudafed pills most of time, cause the labs are always under pressure to produce as much as quickly and cheaply as possible before they have to move them to avoid from getting discovered, thats why is North and South Dakota and other states that are plagued with this meth problem only allow one pack of sudefed and other similar items (because of them chemicals in them) to be sold a day to help prevent Meth from being made. I mean how many people are gonna actually take the time to produce pure meth, I mean you need to know your chemistry to make that shit right, and lets face not many people have that knowledge.

[Stedric]

drugs are shitty for you, just smoke weed.
Very true, lol.

I dunno, I don't think we should pass such harsh judgement on each other just over meth. At the same time I would not advise that shit to anyone it is very dangerous and I've seen it completely destroy people. Stick with weed is my advice, but you have every right to make your own choice.

[Dick Justice]

Meth, crack and heroin are perhaps the only drugs I will never touch.

[UserName AlphaNiner]

I've done some bumps and went on a binge with some crystal a while back. It was pretty fun, until I was coming down and thought it would be fun to drop acid. 3 days with no sleep + tripping... wee. :-\

I don't really like amphetimines anymore... I don't even touch cocaine. I just feel gross and disappointed in myself whenever I give into the craving.

But, anyway... I think demonizing a person for their choice in intoxication is rather silly. To the outside world, all you are is a worthless stoner.... yet, you accuse someone else of being a worthless meth-addicted loser. wtf.

[andruejaysin]

My then girlfriend and I been up several days on meth and went to a shroom party for the 4th of July. She had never tripped before, and I guess she thought it should hit her instantly, like a shot of dope, cause she kept saying "I don't feel anything" and eating more. Next thing I know she's standing on the couch screaming about long haired rats, whatever that meant. And it only got worse from there.

[slipnslide087]

being yayed out is so much different than being cracked out. so much better too. fuck some meth

[terminator]

Yeah hek your sooooo dumb. But hey man I'm sure your friends think your really cool for doing meth, hey man I think your cool that you do it and I want to hang out with you...LOOSER

wow dude, you sound like your completely anti-drugs..maybe you should not post on this website?! you cant just come fucking hammer somebody for talking about a past experience. im also damn sure he can give 2 shits less wether you want to hang out with him or not. your the LOOSER for bitching at him like a little school girl for no reason.

[DarkFire]

i saw something on the news that was saying how ez it is to make meth, and its funny cuz they actually went step by step on where to get the ingredients and which ones to get. i bet that helped stop the problem...

[terminator]

yeah, they said its the new thing for soccer moms!! LOL :D ...seriously too

[Looker]

DONT DO METH YOULL END UP LOOKING LIKE THIS GUY

[celticdruid]

i am quite experianced with anphetamines n stuff, meth is quite possible the WORST, but if she is experiancing that reaction so quickly, then then i dont thinks theres much to worry about.... substance induced disorders usually go either on the come down, or about a month later.. tell her to do ampetamine sulphate, mdma, or better coke if she wants to buzz out on a stimulant, keep her away from that stuff

[Stedric]

Personally I think you might as well snort sand and glass, but thats just me.

[vballgrl420]

yea i think meth is kinda point less i mean think how many chemicals and shit it has in it i would tell her to quit and stick to weed at least it gets you high and doest fuck up ur body i have friends who did/still do meth its not worth it believe me

[Nullific]

think how many chemicals and shit it has in it
Yeah its supposed to have only one, dextro-methamphetamine.

[Frequency]

This might have even been mentioned already but I know that crystal meth has the lowest recovery rate of any drug. That is, hardly anyone who gets addicted to it comes back to sobriety. I'm blazed so bear with me.


funny you say that knowing Wu Tang Clan was well known for their meth use and sick skills on the mic. Ol Dirty Bastard was a long time meth smoker...ODB died from heart complications...

Guess what from?
;)